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Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!

LimaBiker posted:

Honestly, Winamp's mp3 encoder from version 2.69 sounded way better and is more authentic. But for true bubblyness you gotta go for Windows Media Player 7 and encode in 128kbps WMA

/s

I dunno, it sounded pretty lame to me

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Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

LimaBiker posted:

Honestly, Winamp's mp3 encoder from version 2.69 sounded way better and is more authentic. But for true bubblyness you gotta go for Windows Media Player 7 and encode in 128kbps WMA

/s

If you aren't listening through a pair of Koss Porta-Pros or some off-white "Multimedia Speaker Systems", are you even really hearing music?

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




I know right, i have some 1999 vintage US Blasters on my desk. It's the only right way to listen to Californication. Of course with my cell phone set to 2G only to get the additional beeps and buzzes dialed in just right.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://i.imgur.com/SU9t5Bj.mp4

I would blow Dane Cook has a new favorite as of 10:50 on Mar 24, 2024

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



:nice:

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011

LimaBiker posted:

I know right, i have some 1999 vintage US Blasters on my desk. It's the only right way to listen to Californication. Of course with my cell phone set to 2G only to get the additional beeps and buzzes dialed in just right.

I'd still run it through a dimed hardware compressor just to safe, personally.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

History Comes Inside! posted:

What will hipsters be saying in 20 years when it’s CDs turn to be the best format again

You can really tell the difference between a stock CD and a CD with a custom edge trim. Also don't forget to add alignment crystals to the laser head, it really brings up the warmth hidden in the depth of the pits.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

That's amazing.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Somebody call Techmoan!

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS
I guarantee about two thousand people have already sent that to him and a puppet will be sarcastic about it in aboht four videos time

(I respect techmoan for both his enthusiasm for weird old tech and his determination to be a grumpy old bugger)

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




Mister Kingdom posted:

Somebody call Techmoan!

AFAIK he already reviewed a deck with a similar (but not identical) mechanism.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Fil5000 posted:

I guarantee about two thousand people have already sent that to him and a puppet will be sarcastic about it in aboht four videos time

(I respect techmoan for both his enthusiasm for weird old tech and his determination to be a grumpy old bugger)

I miss the snarky puppets.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

monolithburger posted:

I'd still run it through a dimed hardware compressor just to safe, personally.

You're okay as long as your Athlon is hella overclocked thanks to drawing conductive pencil lines to connect specific rows of contacts.

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


:dukedog:
Offensive Clock
Anyone remember cooked MP3s? Let’s bring that sound back!

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019


I remember having a program in the late 90s that claimed to "uncook" MP3s but produced output files that were bit identical to the originals.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
Wow I do remember the days when .MP3s would have glitchy sounds in them but I had definitely forgotten about having a program to uncook .MP3s until that post

I think I may still have precisely one .MP3 from the 1990s that I uncooked and of course failed to improve in quality, Standing Outside a Broken Phone Booth With Money in My Hand, which surely must have had an abbreviated name that fans used but I do not know that I ever heard anyone talking about the song between 1997 and now

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Dr. Quarex posted:

Wow I do remember the days when .MP3s would have glitchy sounds in them but I had definitely forgotten about having a program to uncook .MP3s until that post

I think I may still have precisely one .MP3 from the 1990s that I uncooked and of course failed to improve in quality, Standing Outside a Broken Phone Booth With Money in My Hand, which surely must have had an abbreviated name that fans used but I do not know that I ever heard anyone talking about the song between 1997 and now

this youtube is probably better quality these days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTz88cmXie4

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


:dukedog:
Offensive Clock

Dip Viscous posted:

I remember having a program in the late 90s that claimed to "uncook" MP3s but produced output files that were bit identical to the originals.

It only worked on MP3s that were accidentally transferred in text mode instead of binary while also translating line ending bytes from CR to CRLF. If your files weren’t broken in that specific way, there was nothing to fix.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
One of the managers at my job has a portable 8-track player on his desk. I mentioned that was the kind of thing I'd see in a Techmoan video, and that manager just lit up that someone else watches Techmoan.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Sentient Data posted:

I dunno, it sounded pretty lame to me

:dadjoke:

T.C.
Feb 10, 2004

Believe.

Fil5000 posted:


(I respect techmoan for both his enthusiasm for weird old tech and his determination to be a grumpy old bugger)

I also respect reviewing kitchen equipment despite having lost the sense of taste.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Oh your CD changer can take 5 CDs? that's nice

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Now I'm confused, this thing is listed as MP3 compatible but who TF needs a machine loaded with 300,000 MB of MP3s and yet not just go for a computer?

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Oh your CD changer can take 5 CDs? that's nice



my uncle had one of these. i thought it was sooo cool

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



When I was growing up we got a brand new state of the art 1996 Ford Explorer with a six disc CD changer that mounted into a recess in the center console. Absolutely mind-blowing as a kid. Disc 1 and 2 were permanently occupied by AC/DC Live at Donington, at my dad's insistence. We wore those discs to the bone over a decade or so.

The car sadly gave up the ghost just before I got my learners permit. Miss that beast.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

By popular demand posted:

Now I'm confused, this thing is listed as MP3 compatible but who TF needs a machine loaded with 300,000 MB of MP3s and yet not just go for a computer?

FYI because you seem clueless: COMPUTERS loving SUCK.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



By popular demand posted:

Now I'm confused, this thing is listed as MP3 compatible but who TF needs a machine loaded with 300,000 MB of MP3s and yet not just go for a computer?
The copyright date on the manual for it is 2002. That's like a time where a 20-40GB drive was a reasonable buy for a home pc. It would take another full year for a 120GB consumer drive to even exist and maybe another three years for something like 500 GB to be a regular thing.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

They made a Bluray version of that 400 disc library, sadly they were only marketed to the super rich with a $2000+ price tag.

The jukebox mechanism is just a couple extra motor and a bit of plastic there's no reason it had to be so expensive and niche :mad:

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Oh your CD changer can take 5 CDs? that's nice


If Pioneer made something like it and I could source it cheap enough, I might be tempted. The only issue is that the Pioneer PD-M400 in my audio stack already takes 6 CDs, and I don't have enough of them to fill it up (all the ones I had got ripped as lossless FLAC).
It does use cartridges, though, and there's also another model that takes 4 6 CD cartridges - since those fit the visual language of the rest of the audio stack, I'd be more tempted by those.

The Pioneer AV components and systems catalogue from 88-89 is exactly the exact design that I like the most, and is retained from the period when Pioneer was still doing discreet component circuitry design - which is the period most of my audio stack is from (the only exception is the GR-555 graphic equalizer, but that's not enabled, just there to look pretty).

BlankSystemDaemon has a new favorite as of 14:48 on Mar 25, 2024

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
I bought a 400-disc changer in 2000 and dutifully entered CD text information by attaching a keyboard to its PS/2 keyboard port(!) and also learned in the process that it will definitely make you never want to change any of the CDs out once you hit 400 because somehow it requires 10x the mental energy to change rather than enter said text

The best part was of course it had the exact same problems with shuffle as anything so despite its roughly 4,000 available tracks it could absolutely play the same song twice in one evening of listening

But I did still love it and probably used it daily until 2004 despite also digitizing my whole collection by that point too, since yes as mentioned it was by then actually plausible to have enough space to keep that many tracks. I even then re-burned everything in higher bit rate at some point in there, getting so greedy, just mad with storage power

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
Thrift store had an old late 90's PowerMac 8500:


Tag says Tested (I assume tested and passed):

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
This popped up for me but since the seller wants 200 euros it's not gonna happen. I'd love a small style 80s Trinitron TV though if I could get one cheap.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Mr. Fix It posted:

my uncle had one of these. i thought it was sooo cool

It was cool

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

3D Megadoodoo posted:

FYI because you seem clueless: COMPUTERS loving SUCK.

Imagine hating women this much

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



Dr. Quarex posted:

I bought a 400-disc changer in 2000 and dutifully entered CD text information by attaching a keyboard to its PS/2 keyboard port(!) and also learned in the process that it will definitely make you never want to change any of the CDs out once you hit 400 because somehow it requires 10x the mental energy to change rather than enter said text

The best part was of course it had the exact same problems with shuffle as anything so despite its roughly 4,000 available tracks it could absolutely play the same song twice in one evening of listening

But I did still love it and probably used it daily until 2004 despite also digitizing my whole collection by that point too, since yes as mentioned it was by then actually plausible to have enough space to keep that many tracks. I even then re-burned everything in higher bit rate at some point in there, getting so greedy, just mad with storage power
The prerennial problem that shuffle gets implemented as random?
Because random can return the same value a lot more than people expect, but shuffle isn’t meant to be random.
It’s meant to pick a random song among the ones that haven’t had as many plays
Only audio player that gets this right is foobar2000.

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

The prerennial problem that shuffle gets implemented as random?
Because random can return the same value a lot more than people expect, but shuffle isn’t meant to be random.
It’s meant to pick a random song among the ones that haven’t had as many plays
Only audio player that gets this right is foobar2000.

MusicBee is also pretty good at that, if set up correctly and, you know, if you want to use a closed source Windows app.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



F4rt5 posted:

MusicBee is also pretty good at that, if set up correctly and, you know, if you want to use a closed source Windows app.
I’ve spent enough time setting Foobar2000 up in Wine on FreeBSD; I think I’m good.

wa27
Jan 15, 2007


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbjyEjVY5Pw

I love those old Stereo Review mags. I got a stack of 1979 issues from an auction for $1 some years back and they're fun to flip through.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

ymgve posted:

It only worked on MP3s that were accidentally transferred in text mode instead of binary while also translating line ending bytes from CR to CRLF. If your files weren’t broken in that specific way, there was nothing to fix.

I remember downloading mp3s off random ftp sites. Once in a while you got a 'cooked' mp3 that needed to be uncooked.

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Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019


What was the deal with MP3s that had random Windows and ICQ notification sounds throughout them? How does that even happen inadvertently? Were there people that were like "I really need to rip this sweet track, but I don't have a CD-ROM drive so I'll hold a mic up to a boombox in front of my PC"?

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