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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I use WinRAR and I even paid for it!!

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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I seems to remember learning how to type on some random program on the IBM computer in my Dad's office. I never took typing in high school (1988) because I was a band geek and didn't have room in my schedule. In 10th grade I got a job at a call center taking food delivery orders and got a little better at it.

In 12th grade (1991) I took an Office Skills course because I had an elective credit for fulfill. At this point I had already done database programming so word processing wasn't going to be hard. I remember telling the teacher that if I promised to do all the work and be quiet, would she leave me alone and let me work on my BASIC class.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5S3e5St_5Y

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

computer parts posted:

No one has a landline these days unless you're really old or if your cable company makes you get one as part of a bundle.

Pretty much every single mobile phone plan has unlimited talk/text these days so you don't need to worry about minutes. And yeah everything is (+1). They're assigned on a country to country basis regardless of population IIRC. Like China I know is (+86) but they have like 12 digit phone numbers because of how many people there are.


A co-worker adopted a baby and one of the requirements is that they have a landline in case they have to call 911.

Christo3 posted:

Promoting the installation and use of Windows 95 with characters from hit 90's TV show Friends(tm)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGYcNcFhctc

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

thathonkey posted:

It's hard to find a tv now that doesnt have any of the following horribly dumb gimmick features

- smart
- 3d
- hi refresh rate
- curved
- 4k

I just want a regular rear end tv that is big and has good inputs and works well enough i barely even care if its 1080. Im actually in the market for something 37-42 inch or so if anyone knows a good one with no frills.

I got a 60" plasma right as they went off the market. I just wish TVs had more HDMI ports.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Bovril Delight posted:

Get a receiver and you'll never use more than a couple.

nevermind, I'm dumb

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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

computer parts posted:

They've gone away now, but a lot of the local places had fax food delivery ordering. Just print out a PDF, fill in your information, fax it to them, and wait 20 minutes.

This is also how most people would "call in" to a radio show. You could fax in a song request or sometime it could be to enter a contest. If you listed to old Howard Stern or Bob and Tom shows you'll hear them say, "we just got a fax from a listener who says this to say...".

Same thing when a talk show hosts says, "Bob emailed in and has this to say about Obama..."

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I worked at a small ISP (500 users) that offered dual channel ISDN. The only person that ordered it was some CEO of a local manufacturing company. I almost had it installed at my house but then cable modems came along and I happened to live in the part of town where they were beta testing. I'm guessing that was '98 or '99.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Humphreys posted:

The audiogalaxy satellite client was cool. I used it extensively until one of my University Lecturers introduced the class to 'Soulseek' which was mind blowing to me. There wasn't much I couldn't find on there.

Fake edit: Holy crap it's still around! http://www.slsknet.org/news/node/680

Oh wow. I was using this in 2005 to download lots of obscure 80s metal albums from people in South America. I should try this again to see if it's still any good.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Remember ZDTV? Remember Silicon Spin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcJBXgmdX44

Here they talk about MSN launching and linking to AOL

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Cojawfee posted:

Why does anyone still have java installed? I haven't had it installed for maybe over a year now. I haven't lost any functionality besides some military websites which I only used at work.

You see it all the time in Enterprise software. Legacy apps are so lovely.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Computer viking posted:

I used a webpage two days ago that was 100% flash. A restaurant, of course.

A local BBQ place did this and had that awful Kid Rock, "All Summer Long" song playing http://www.camp31.com/

Data Graham posted:

The thing about restaurants is that they all, every single one, have the exact same goal. The exact same very narrow set of use cases. Customers know what they want from a restaurant website, and the smart ones build around that expectation. Show a menu, show the location/hours, present an online ordering option if applicable, done. Customers going to a restaurant website don't have time to waste. They're hungry and they have lots of choices. Give them what they want as efficiently and as predictably as possible.

But restaurant owners always think they're going to do something new and different. They're going to be the ones to break the mold.

http://www.burgerandlobster.com


This is like a http://clientsfromhell.net/ post come to life.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Whatever happened to Jenny Cam? Didn't she stop because PayPal considered her site as porn?


Speaking of Porn, sites like CarolCox.com and WifeysWorld.com are still producing content.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-YIRS0lS-w

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

GI_Clutch posted:

I had to do the same the first time I remoted into Server 2012. I also love how when you hit up MS sites to download software on your server, it'll give you a big banner telling you that you should update to Windows 10. Yeah, that's just what my server needs.

I just wish they would stop setting the homepage to MSN. Because I just love waiting 2 minutes for the loving page to load when I'm trying to connect remotely over the VPN.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

8 track betamax posted:

So who is putting youtube videos into their word documents???????

Probably the people that still use Word to make HTML pages.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

kilogram posted:

I had no idea this was a thing, I always assumed Frontpage was the weapon of choice for people who have no business making web pages but do it anyway


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5ZG7-BlG6Q

I'm pretty sure that Project allows you to create "web pages" too.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
All the Wired talk reminds me of those AT&T commercials from the early 90s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZb0avfQme8

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Lime Tonics posted:

Good to know the US government has us all beat on this.

Federal legacy IT investments are becoming increasingly obsolete: many use outdated software languages and hardware parts that are unsupported. Agencies reported using several systems that have components that are, in some cases, at least 50 years old. For example, Department of Defense uses 8-inch floppy disks in a legacy system that coordinates the operational functions of the nation's nuclear forces. In addition, Department of the Treasury uses assembly language code—a computer language initially used in the 1950s and typically tied to the hardware for which it was developed.

Look at the outdated systems listed,

http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-16-468

A vacuum tube breaking can take out a government system. Good to know.

Pharmaceutical labs aren't much different. Lab instruments communicate via serial port and no new hardware will have them. Serial to USB cables don't work very well either. Also once a lab has a testing environment in place they will never change it. Change means at least two years of regulatory planning. About two years ago I took an after hours call to fix some software. When I connected to the server I was presented with the Windows Server 2000 login prompt.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

I don't remember what software it was but I hooked up a few speakers and one of those old desktop mics to use as a phone for a few months when my handset broke. You could use it as answering machine too.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Anyone remember Microsoft NetMeeting?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_NetMeeting

I seem to recall that you could just sign in and randomly message people and have a voice chat if you wanted.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

feedmegin posted:

The death of CRTs was p nice. No more hernias trying to lug around the 21" ones.

There is a bit of a downside. I volunteer for an organization that takes in old PCs to fix up and donate to families and people in need. Up until a few years ago we had more CRT monitors then I cared to count. We find that LCD monitors are not donated as much because they never really break down and since family PCs no longer need to be upgraded every 2 or 3 years, people just hang on to them. So now we have PCs to give away but run short of monitors. We can't even give the CRTs away so we just send them for recycling.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
It was 2000 or 2001 but I used to have one of these babies.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-RM-AV3000-Universal-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B000066AX5

loving thing was the size of a large smart phone and took 4 or 6 AA batteries. Also the one I got only had Japanese instructions so I had to use the pictures to figure it out.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

GutBomb posted:

Universal remote have been around since the eighties. Nut often with that LCD touch screen, but they've been around for a long time.

Steve Wozniack invented them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CL_9

That Sony remote was a bitch to program. You had to point the remotes at each other and then press a button on the Sony and then the same button on your other remote.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

an AOL chatroom posted:

I think it may be more an issue of keeping the head aligned correctly when it flips over. I remember on one of my dad's auto-reverse tape decks, side B always sounded muddy compared to side A, and when you manually flipped the tape over, it'd sound a whole lot better. Could have just been it was broken, but I have to believe they at least considered the idea of just flipping the head and chose not to for *some* reason.


I had a walkman with auto reverse and yeah, it was muddy so I would flip the tape. I dropped that same walkman on the ground one time and something broke so that when you chose auto reverse it would just play the tape backwards. Had lots of fun playing Led Zeppelin, Ozzy and Judas Priest tapes that way.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

error1 posted:

That cassette deck owns, unfortunately most of them don't work very well after 40 years :(

If someone made a retro replica of that exact mechanism I'd be first in line to buy one though

I have an old Sony reel to reel that I found while cleaning out my Dad's place. The wheels won't turn so I'm hoping it's just the belts that deteriorated over time. Two of the reels are NPR broadcasts of the Star Wars radio drama complete with commercials and news updates.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Squashy Nipples posted:

I finally tossed my Dad's reel to reel last year, after finding out how many parts needed replacing... and how hard it was to find parts for it. Thankfully, none of the reels had anything all that interesting, mostly just copies of his vinyl records.

That sucks. I looked up the model and it seems to be a common one so hopefully parts won''t be an issue. Luckily there is a place in town that actually knows how to service "retro" stereo equipment.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Squashy Nipples posted:

One of the weirder aspects of OS/2 was that they put on a concerted effort to reach celebs. Of all people, they got their hooks into Howard Stern, by giving him access to someone who could provide some personal tech support ("Jeff Jarvis", I think?). Howard knew jack poo poo about computers, but he bought into the OS/2 marketing hype, and used to repeat it on air constantly. OS/2 is the wave of the future, all PCs would be running OS/2, IBM is the greatest ever, blah blah blah.

Howard ended up making a big investment in OS/2 and Lotus Notes groupware, a system they were stuck with for WAY too long.

No, it was Jeff Schick who was a VP at IBM. Jeff Jarvis is a Stern fan and English professor who wrote a book about Google and talks out of his rear end with Leo Laporte once a week.

Lotus notes are still used quite a bit, mostly in organizations that have IBM consultants on site at all times.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I work with a few guys who, up until 2 years ago, did Lotus/Domino support for Blackberry.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

EvilGenius posted:

One particular screen shot heavy assignment ended up being 12MB. Literally the only way I could get it into college, in the digital loving stone age, was to use an application called Chainsaw to chop the file up into 1.4MB chunks and save it across 9 floppy discs. And of course if even one of those discs failed (which floppies did all the loving time), the whole file was gone. I ended up late submitting at least one assignment, because one of the five floppy discs it was on failed.


WinZip and WinRAR have always been able to do this.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
THE INTERNET on April 4th, 1998

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWq4DWfrpu8

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

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I should watch more. :-( I suck

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Dotz for the Amiga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjetL7zOkzA

One of the guys who wrote this runs a computer museum in Southern Ontario http://pcmuseum.ca/

He also has the largest video game collection in Canada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-tdnHlpCco

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Gaz2k21 posted:

There is a small community of VHS collectors but it seems to be mostly horror movies as theirs a shitload that will likely never see a digital release, some really obscure titles have a pretty impressive value.

There are quite a few cult hits that never made it to DVD. The Decline of Western Civilization movies are a good example. They finally were released on Blu-Ray last year but before that your only hope was a Torrent of the film form when it aired on IFC or a copy of the VHS. Some movies were also slightly modified when they were put on DVD with scenes missing or dialogue changed. Goodfellas used to show the airline name on the ticket the babysitter held while she was on the phone. Casino used not have the sub titles when Pesci and De Niro were talking code on the phone.

I helped run my friend's video store from 1993 to 1995 and it's amazing how things changed over night. I wish eBay was around back then because the amount of promo posters, cardboard stands, cups, hats, jackets, etc. that the distributors handed out was pretty cool and I'm sure collectible. You would also get screeners for just about any movie you would imagine. The bigger titles were sometimes hard to come by but every single B horror movie or soft porn (LOTS of Shannon Tweed movies) I got a copy of. Full Moon (makers of the Puppet Master movies) sent us a copy of everything.

I don't remember us really charging people who didn't rewind. Our store was part of a local chain who didn't really care and it was easier for us to just use the rewind machines and not hassle and argue with a customer over $1.

Our chain was the only one in town that rented porn and that pretty much kept our lights on. These tapes were never rewound and when they came back you'd see that only 1/4 of the movie had been watched before it was ejected.

Back then if you wanted a copy of a movie on VHS you paid $100 retail. This was done to prevent the consumers form buying their own copy and thus keep the rental stores in business. I don't remember the year but soon companies would release movies for sale to the public after a few months after they had been for rent, allowing the stores to make their money back.

I've only see video rental stores in rural areas now or in places like cottage country in Ontario. Most of the cottages have DVD players and if it's a rainy day you're gonna want something to do.

EDIT: Some movies took up two tapes so you would definitely want to switch them out right away. Stuff like Ben Hurr or The Godfather.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I may have talked about these in earlier in the thread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc

Basically a record LP in a cart that you insert into a machine. Playback is done with a stylus.

The same guy that owns the PC Museum in Ontario also has the largest collection of CEDs in Canada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqMtjv6WcAU&t=20s

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
To give you an idea of how long the format lasted, the 1st season of The Sopranos was released on VHS before DVD.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Cojawfee posted:

They put seasons of TV shows on VHS? How many tapes is that? I figured the reason why they even did seasons of TV was because of DVD.

First season is 5 tapes which is the same as with the DVD/Blu-Ray, its just VHS quality.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Sopranos-Season-1-VHS-no-case-/250814277102

Keep in mind that DVD players were new on 1999-2000 and cost quite a bit. I think I paid $500 for mine and it was the size of an end table.

Mak0rz posted:


Is Betamax still used a lot in TV/news studios? I somehow doubt it now that digital recording is so ubiquitous but it was Beta's only last market for a while as far as I know.

I think most are pure digital now but their archives would be in betamax.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

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Data Graham posted:

I thought Beta tapes were smaller, and higher quality, but they never got market traction because of dumb bundling/marketing moves by Sony or something like that.

Of course I could research this instead of :justpost: ing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videotape_format_war

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

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Others have explained by yes, it was prices this way to keep rental stores in business.

Let's say a movie like Indecent Proposal comes out on VHS and retails for $100. As a store owner I may by them for anywhere from $60-$80 a copy form my distributor depending on how many I buy and what kind of deal I have with the warehouse. Let's say I get 10 copies. For something big like Forrest Gump or True Lies, I'm going to order 30 or 40 because demand will be high.

I rent my new releases for $3.50 for one night. If one copy is rented each night for 20 nights I've made $70 off one tape and get my ROI. Once the movie has been out 6 or 7 months I'll keep two copies in my back catalog and sell the rest as Previously Viewed for $10 or $15. The back catalog is basically pure profit. Something like The Thing would get rented out at least once a month for $2.25 (what I charged for older movies) and since the tape was paid for 10 years ago, it was basically money in our pocket.

There was also a service that we used called RentTrack or something. This company would purchase the videos, ship them to me to put in the store and we would split the profits. When the movie s were no longer popular, I'd ship them all back or buy a few at a reduced price to sell in my store. I used this for lovely B movies or Indie films that no one ever heard of. One of those was Reservoir Dogs which I could not keep stocked once Pulp Fiction came out.

Video games were a gold mine since they cost half of what I paid for VHS.

One perk of running our own store is that you can watch any movie or play any game for free. When my shift was over I'd grab a few movies and head home. It made renting movies and pain late in life because I was so stingy about paying 2 or 3 bucks for a movie that I may not like.

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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

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Casimir Radon posted:

None of the video rental places we frequented ever had the hidden porn section. The independent (I'm assuming anyway) one didn't have one, VideoVision was a chain and did not, and Blockbuster didn't have one. Blockbuster did occasionally have stickers on certain movies to tell you they were "adult". The only movies I remember seeing that on were Akira and Nikita.



My store had a curtained off area and you just took the movie from behind the box. Due to some stupid law we had to sharpie out all the dicks and bits event though no kids were allowed back there. Some stores in our chain had all the adult movies behind the counter so in order to choose the movie you wanted, we had these three ring binders that had all the box art and you wrote down the number of the movie you wanted and brought that the counter.

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