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CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Toph Bei Fong posted:

What's a good place to start, if I don't want to completely destroy my bank account by buying multiple cases of boosters? Should I buy figures I like off eBay and go that route?
Oh, definitely. You can probably buy CUR sets for past releases for a pittance and then just cherry-pick the SRs and chases you really want/need.

quote:

The rules are coming back to me, but where can I find a good refresher on modern tactics and strategies?
HCRealms? Or here, ask us stuff.

I'd point out though that considering you stopped playing nine years ago, the rules that are coming back to you almost certainly are not the rules any more. Since ManiacClown is a lying liar who lies, here are the links he said were in the OP but weren't (fix dat, clown):
Core Rulebook (read this first)
PAC
Important change not reflected in the rulebook #1: Equipment
Important change not reflected in the rulebook #2: Sizes

Some lovely tutorial videos by WizKids


Seriously steal this for the OP or I'm coming for your dumb rear end Maniac

CapnAndy fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Dec 22, 2015

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CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
Also that's a lot of feats for a build where feats are banned.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
So I have a 2015 point game this Sunday. My team is FOUR GALACTUSES.

OG Galactus 600
Reprint Galactus 600
GG Galactus 600
Zombie Galactus 200

Balls of Fury as GG's herald and I either leave the 15 points off or put on HENRY the helper monkey and blow theme, I haven't decided. What's important is, my starting area is gonna be half the map and that's funny.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
First World's Finest preview is World's Finest, and literally the only negative thing I can think of to say is that it's basically a Superman dial -- apart from the keyword and TA, there's not much Batman in there.

But it's fantastic on every click and at every point value, and it retroactively makes the Trinity War Superman and Batman even better, because with their variable point costs you've always got viable split/merge options no matter how you started the game.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
I think either they picked a bad example to demo them with or these things are actually going to make the figures with them worse.

Because, before there was a special blood token to move around, is there any way X-23's special power doesn't read "place a Slash token on the card of hit characters" and she'd be able to have more than one active at once? And does it make any sense at all that if you cut one guy and he's bleeding, and then cut another guy, the first guy stops bleeding because only one person can bleed at once?

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
WizKids has announced its 2016 con schedule, and GenCon is conspicuously absent.

Which actually puts me in a bit of a bind, because I thought Origins sucked on toast compared to GenCon and was planning to go back to Indianapolis this year.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Red posted:

The key is that Electro can jump around to any unheld object. Absorby/Titania can drop standard objects as a free action. Is that enough to be competitive?
Honestly, no. You're gonna get whomped. Sandman's got two clicks of 10 attack in the middle of his dial; apart from that, he and She-Thing have 9s and 8s, which translates to "haha never gonna hit anything ever" in an age when 17 is the bare minimum acceptable defense. Your Absorby/Titania + Electro trick is genuinely cool, but the downside is that Electro needs a power action to do his teleport, and he doesn't even have willpower. So he pops out of an object and then stands still for two turns -- and Absorby/Titania are going to be in melee range, so if he's jumping to them, he'll be in melee range too and easy meat for anyone who wants to punch him.

That said, if those are the pieces you've got (I note that they're all pretty old so I'm guessing your collection is a limiting factor here) and that's a team that'll make you happy to play it, then play it. Go get whomped, it's the best way to learn.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Red posted:

So for this game, maybe I'll do:

NFAOS051 Steve Rogers
DP202 Daredevil
AVAS017 Falcon
WKM15-009 Agent Venom
CATWS013 Agent 13
Total: 500
That's a solid team.

So hey, Torrent or anyone else who knows: What's the WizKids presence at SDCC like? Is it just the booth where you can buy the exclusives, or are there events too? It sorta looks like they just have the booth and no events

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

The Grammar Aryan posted:

There's an ROC Super Qualifier coming up in Durham on the 23rd that I'm going to. Current scuttlebutt is that the team to beat is a full dial Nimrod with Juston Seyfert.
Seems like a Green Power Battery shuts that down quick enough.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Waffles Inc. posted:

Yikes, she's gotta be above 200 right?
200 on the nose.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
Quadruple preview! Four Batmans, with a nifty trait that lets you shift between them as a free action, but no more than once a turn.

One of them has hyper-OOTS, one of them has a 12 attack, one of them has outwit that can last two turns and persist even if he shifts away, one is a standard ranged attacker who only looks bad compared to the other three.

Oh and they're 60 points.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Hugoon Chavez posted:

Hey goones, I'm thinking about getting into heroclix because I am a giant nerd, and it's kinda cheap to start + I love the characters already.

I live in Madrid and there seems to be a healthy community.

My question is, which starters should I look out for? There's a dude selling the Avengers Movie starter but that seems pretty old. He also has the AvX x-men starter (is this a thing or is he unclear and selling something else?) And the hobbit starter. I'm hitting a few stores after payday to see what I can find, too.

Or should I just buy a few single pieces first and wait for a future starter/forget about it?
You can pick up CUR (everything but the super-rares and chases) sets of past releases for reasonable prices on eBay. Or, if you're willing to shell out a bit more for a start, save up and get a brick of World's Finest when it comes out in like two weeks, because that's starting to look like a real power set.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Hugoon Chavez posted:

Alrighty, thanks for the advice! I'm not thinking about spending an awful lot, maybe one or two boosters a month once I get a team I like, plus any tourneys I decide to join and be cannon fodder of. Maybe 40€ for starters then a few here and there.
Starters should cost around $20-25, not 40. Don't get ripped off.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Roshambo posted:

Is a pre release a good way to get into Heroclix?
Better than most. Sealed events are always good because you're on an even footing with people with established collections, and a new set means nobody really knows the pieces yet. You're still gonna get whupped because you don't know what you're doing, but tell them you're a new player and people will generally be nice and walk you through your mistakes.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
At the pre-release I pulled Kingdom Come Superman, so I'd won before we even started.

And then I won for realsies because I played KC Superman, Mercury, Mercury, and Iron. TK yo-yos are fun!

Round 1 was against Metallo and Mary Marvel. We both rolled horrendously and missed a lot of attacks that should have been made, but what won it for me was that I guessed correctly when Mary was at the point where the next hit from Superman would put her on her stop click and then didn't hit her until all three of my metal men were up close. Not giving her a chance to regen was key. Metallo's amazingly solid, especially when he can just go "nah +1 to all my poo poo, hit a 19 on every frigging click", but I ground him down eventually.

Round 2 was against Ranged Batman, Alura, and Klarion. He kept trying to hide behind blocking and I'd keep yo-yoing Superman out to blow it up so he had to move again. Eventually he mispositioned and I got to send Superman right into Batman's face, and then I did run-bys on Alura until she dropped too. I promised my opponent that if he left Teekl out of it I'd kill the cat last, but no, he had to move up and base Mercury and Superman with Teekl, so I killed the dang cat and he rolled a 1 for his super senses. Then Superman one-shotted Klarion with an ultra heavy because smartass obnoxious witch-boys.

Round 3 was against SR Superman and Outwit Batman. He made a crucial positioning error, leaving Superman on the edge of elevated terrain and inside my yo-yo range, so my Superman got the first hit in. I missed a few crucial attacks and he made his, though, so we ended up with both of our Supermen on their last clicks, but his Batman was long since KO'd and all my Metal Men were on their top click. Iron ended up being the one to land the final shot.

I picked Red Rain Batman and am very happy.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
Guys, guys guys guys guys guys.

Streaky the Super-cat.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

thebardyspoon posted:

Was the Wonder Woman/Superman set produced in very small quantities or something?
Smaller than usual, because the giant packs take the spot of 2 regular boosters. That means cases had 16 boosters against a normal 20. Then it sold out very quickly.

You're right though, it's weird as hell that there are no CUR sets on eBay.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
I think you can already see the specialist/generalist thing, just look at the Single Facet of Superman/Batman pieces in this set.

My main complaint is that the new card design is just horrible. Why do you need the super big picture of the 3D render of the piece? And why is there all that extra black space under the keywords? Gross, guys.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
Well, I still don't know why they feel the need for the big dumb circle picture, but it's still a thousand times better.

It does not engender confidence that apparently they needed someone to tell them the first design was hot garbage, though.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Morand posted:

Finished 3-0 with 1799 points. The metal men kicked all sorts of rear end and I was amazed. I remember them being an awful joke team and now they are ultra cost effective. Did not play Andy, he lost in the first round to the Mystical team I beat in the finale. He had a hydra squad that was built to ruin high defense teams and would have been very difficult to beat.
It was also built to ruin swarm teams and I am extremely disgruntled that nobody but me actually played one. I played:

Baron Strucker
Wolverine, Agent of Hydra
Imperial Hydra
Agent Ward
Hydra Agent H
Hydra Section Chief
Hydra Field Agent x3
Hydra Recruit x3
and the Hulkbuster Torso, because it was 10 points and my team was 590 and the plan was for Wolverine to equip it, but that ended up never happening because I valued it more as undestroyable hindering terrain or Wolverine had better things to be doing than standing on hindering terrain and taking a power action to turn it into clear terrain when his Stealth is the #1 thing that protects him.

Round 1 was against the Mystics team. I severely underestimated their stealth because I managed to ignore both Eclipso and the Cowl, so I picked Black Mercy. That screwed me out of the game, on a clear map I would've had this. Malekith made his first try for the Cowl and I was still able to knock him to mid-dial before he got to cover. I ended up just sending everyone up in a swarm and made a match out of it. I realized about midway through I'd been forgetting to keep track of Field Agents and Recruits killed, so in the end we both tried to remember it and decided to say he'd KO'd 300 points worth of figures, that sounded about right. Lost 300-175. Stupid, stupid map choice. That'll teach me to pay attention.

Round 2 was against some mishmash team, played by another new guy who's friends with the other new guy who Morand played in Round 2 and I played in Round 3. He had Doppleganger, Samuroid, SI Hercules, Pip the Troll, a Nurse, Jenny Quantum, umm... some other stuff. What he didn't have was stealth, a theme team, or a chance in hell. I put him on the Black Mercy and shot everyone to death with my Yes I Have Range and No You Don't Have A Defense powers. He did, however, pull off the ballerest move ever seen at the venue when he just marched Jenny right up to my murder swarm and then pulse waved 'em, doing 12 clicks of damage in one attack. That was awesome. It didn't help, since I responded by having Baron Strucker brutally beat her to death since he was now surrounded by Recruits who'd been knocked onto Empower, but it was still awesome.

Round 3 was, like I said, against the other new guy playing his actually fairly clever Suicide Squad team. Also no stealth there, so back on the Black Mercy we went. He actually got the drop on me because I was so focused on Parallax that I didn't notice that Deadshot was within 10 of my firing line, had a clear line of fire, and ignores hindering terrain. And with his shot, he went after... one of my Field Agents. He missed, too, but honestly I was rooting for him to make that shot harder than he was, because I could just bring the Field Agent right back and I'd honestly rather get to take two tokens away and have a +1 across the board on all my guys next turn. Anyway, I shot Deadshot right back on my turn, and my guys don't miss, and then I shot Parallax too for good measure. He tried to walk Bronze Tiger up to me, because new guys I guess, so I shot him dead and then everyone moved up and Wolverine got to lead the charge as we handled Waller, Bucky, and Jimmy Woo up close.

Went 2-1 and was good for second place. I'm rather bummed I didn't get to play Nekron, since the idea of Hydra mercilessly gunning down the god of death while he flails about helplessly because they're hiding and he can't see them is hilarious to me. AND SERIOUSLY WHY DID NOBODY ELSE PLAY A SWARM TEAM, that format was begging to run SHIELD and Doctor Locke had to just sit around twiddling his thumbs and feeling useless most of the time. And speaking of useless, Imperial Hydra utterly failed to bring anyone back in Rounds 2 or 3. I guess he felt my need was not great enough, because he returned 'em pretty regularly in Round 1 when I actually needed to just spam an unending swarm and hope it was enough.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
So I got my WF case and opened up. Grand total:

CUR: Nearly complete, missing only Condiment King and Crazy Quilt.
IDs: Superman, Batman, Blue Beetle, Aquaman, Cyborg
Prime: Nightlantern
SRs: Joker's Daughter, Platinum, World's Vilest, Superman, Batman, Metallo
Chase: Green Lantern

I am... mostly happy with this. The Superman and Beetle ID cards are dupes, as is Metallo, and Joker's Daughter is pretty meh. The Green Lantern chase is having to do most of the really good pull heavy lifting, but, man... I dunno. I wanted most of those SRs, and then I look at the list and there's still a great deal of figures I also wanted on the ones I didn't get. SRs were too good this time, there's very few inessential ones, maybe that's the problem.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Red posted:

:siren::siren::siren: WK Ruling: You can use the Avengers round table for DC ID cards :siren::siren::siren:

I'd assumed every place was going to house rule this, so that's really nice.
And vice-versa, too. The teleporter is a word-for-word copy of the round table, and neither ask for anything other than ID cards, no restrictions.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Red posted:



So, let's imagine we have a colossal WF Elasti-Girl, two squares away from a GSX Mystique, with Stealth, sitting in printed hindering terrain.

Can Elasti-Girl reach over via Giant Reach to attack Mystique?

Judge sez: No, because Giant Reach requires you to draw a line of fire.
HC Realms sez: Yes, because you're targeting the square.
Yes. Your judge is wrong -- show me where it says "line of fire" in the wording of Great Reach. Hint: It's not there, but the words "close combat attack" and "as if they were adjacent" are. You can punch someone adjacent to you even if you can't draw line of fire to them.

edit: I have been informed that yes, the words "line of fire" are in fact in there. Oops. I'm still right, though, because close combat attacks target the square.

CapnAndy fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Feb 22, 2016

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
:siren: A NINJA TURTLE HAS BEEN PREVIEWED. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. REPEAT, A NINJA TURTLE HAS BEEN PREVIEWED. :siren:

http://heroclix.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/17322/#axzz411srGU88

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

ManiacClown posted:

I couldn't agree more. He puts the cartoon-based rare to shame.
Yeah if the common didn't exist I would have been like "oh that's a perfectly good Raphael" but it's just embarassingly eclipsed by a version ten times better and ten points cheaper.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
Yesterday was a 700 point Silver Age game with no entities, no resources, but you could have as many special objects as you wanted on your force and it only took a power action to pick any of them up. The second I saw that I thought "well, I'm playing Mr. Nobody", but then I thought for a few more seconds and remembered that Mr. Nobody is terrible and Winter Soldier Nick Fury does the same thing and built a team around him instead. As it turns out, though, that setup was so obviously exploitable that everyone either built to exploit it, troll it, or shut it down altogether and nobody actually brought objects.

I played the Unlikely Avengers:

CATWS Nick Fury
NFAOS Namor
AAOU Hawkeye
AVAS Jarvis
AVAS Starbrand
con ex Dr. Strange

and Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Katana, Blue Beetle, and Red Tornado as their ID cards. Because I thought it was funnier that way.

Round 1 was against a guy who might've been the guy who keeps bringing the cheese teams? I don't know, I don't know him. I know that guy was there though. I honestly have forgotten what he played. Morand probably remembers, he's good at remembering that poo poo. I killed his entire force without losing a piece or using an ID, I know that.

Round 2 was against another guy I don't know. Played KC Green Lantern, Captain Thunder, and, ummmmm.... two other guys. I had to call in Batman, Red Tornado, and Blue Beetle, and I lost Starbrand and Hawkeye, but I won it. Big ups to Nick Fury, who got knocked to his 9 attack psyblast click and hit KC Green Lantern twice on throwaway attacks I was making because there was no point in not trying. Rolled an 11 and then a crit hit, and those two attacks were what brought the loving unhittable bastard down.

Round 3 was against a regular who's a little bit dicky when he plays. He's nicer when he's not playing me or Morand, and honestly, between the two of us we probably win at least 90% of the time at that venue. If he wants to be pissed off about that, fine, I get it, and if he's not pissed off but just getting his game face on, well I wish he'd tone it down a bit, but oh well. Anyway, he played a self-admitted troll team: John Constantine, Prime Nighthawk, Crazy Quilt, DC10 Catwoman, Trinity War Firestorm, M10 Iron Man... and also Mercury and KC Shazam. Which, okay, ha ha on the rest of the team, but those two are in there because you're going HAM, dude, this is why you're a dick.

First turn he TKs out Shazam, who grabs an ultra heavy and runs all the way across the map and hits Hawkeye. And he was super arrogant about it, rolling the dice and telling me "now he's dead" without even checking to see what the roll had been and moving Shazam the rest of the way. Which meant I got to draw his attention to how he'd rolled a 4, and Crazy Quilt had called brown, and there was no brown anywhere on Hawkeye's dial, so that's a miss, rough luck buddy. (He'd grouse after the match that he lost the whole thing on that roll, but... no, he didn't. Hawkeye did some good damage later on, but I knew there was no way to avoid a Shazam alpha strike and was willing to sacrifice a piece if it meant getting his only big threat way out of position and in range for me to murder.) I responded by just pouring fire on Shazam and made enough of the attacks to cripple him, and with all his help at least 10 squares away he couldn't do anything to stop me from killing Shazam on the turn after that.

After Shazam fell I turned my fire on Iron Man, who I know has a short dial and is extremely vulnerable to psyblast, of which I had a ton. Iron Man goes down. I exchanged some fire with his guys who were standing up at the edge of his ridge (Nighthawk kept sidestepping up to take a shot and then being TK'd back by Mercury) and got Firestorm wounded, so I sacrificed an already near-death Namor to KO Firestorm -- even trade points-wise, and now he was running out of people who could actually hurt me. I left Catwoman flailing impotently at Nick Fury and went up to deal with his Denial Squad. Hit Constantine, got my probs back. KO'd Crazy Quilt. Hawkeye landed some solid hits on Nighthawk but was standing in stealth, and Nighthawk just refused to attack Dr. Strange, which I thought was weird, since I was on the 18 defense with defend click -- that's vulnerable, at least try to hit me! Turns out Nighthawk was on his last click and he knew the mystics feedback would kill him. Once Nighthawk dropped and Nick Fury finally landed a solid hit on Catwoman, the last remnants of his team collapsed and I mopped up. Lost Starbrand and Namor and called in Batman and Red Tornado.

Having a 6 strong theme team won me map all three rounds, which was huge, because I picked the FI map that's technically all water terrain, and having Namor teleport around the map like OOTS Batman on crack was a very big deal. Also, Jarvis is the world's best mastermind fodder. Once in every round, I got to deeply surprise and dismay my opponent when they landed a huge hit on Nick Fury and I went "okay Jarvis takes 1 damage" -- plus, once you do that, any further damage you have to mastermind onto Jarvis that turn just gets thrown the gently caress away. Oh, you energy exploded and both Nick and Jarvis are caught in the explosion? 1 damage to Jarvis. I need to find more Avengers with Mastermind, because it's just nasty as hell.

Anyway I went 3-0 and won White Lantern Martian Manhunter, which was by far the WL I wanted the most. Yay!

CapnAndy fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Feb 29, 2016

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
2016 Con Exclusives!

Marvel has Cosmic Daredevil, Man-Spider, and a Groot/Rocket duo. Bit weak apart from Groot/Rocket.
DC, on the other hand, is rocking KC Hawkman, KC Red Robin, and Ace the Bat-Hound. Hell yes, Ace.
And, shockingly, TMNT has two exclusives of their own -- Casey Jones and Shredder. This suggests battle royales, and therefore 5-figure booster packs? Maybe?

edit: I say that, and they preview Donatello. Notice that the uncommons go up to 27, that indicates a full set. Either it's 5-figure boosters or they're gonna give us a Yu-Gi-Oh level of uncollectability screwing.

CapnAndy fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Mar 1, 2016

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Morand posted:

Round 2 versus the legion of super pets.

This was against Andy! He can do the rundown of his team. In a nutshell he could not deal with my double outwit and I aggressively targeted any of his pieces with precision strike as that is my whole teams Kryptonite.
Right, I should do this before I totally forget. I played:

Dogpool
Cosmo
Streaky
Krypto
Lockjaw (gotg rare)
Dex-Starr
Ms. Lion
Black Cat x2

Animal theme (you didn't have to be a non-generic theme team, just a theme team), because I badly wanted to play Team Housepet. It's all cats and dogs! That's funny as hell! I also didn't think for a second it would win; my plan was to get pasted and win fellowship for my silly fun team. Instead I made a serious run at winning the whole event and got screwed out of second place by the dude who had the first round bye winning his next two matches (I had way more points); shows what I know.

Round 1 was against a new-ish player, playing some version of Batman, SMWW uncommon Superman, and rare Wally West Flash. Rather than come at me all at once and stand a decent chance of winning the brawl, I think my pet swarm unnerved him or something because he hung back and fed his pieces to me one at a time (also, he's pretty new). Flash was moving in first so I put Krypto at the head of my group and placed everyone so that if Flash didn't want to get stopped by Krypto or hindering terrain, he'd have to spend almost all of his movement getting around. Which he did, and I had a lot of precision strike, so Wally got dropped hard. I moved in on Superman, which was slow going because I couldn't really do more than one damage at a time to him, so I sent both Black Cats to tie up Batman and keep on giving him bad luck. Eventually most of the other games ended and we drew a crowd. People thought that the housepets murdering the Justice League was very funny and eventually even my opponent cracked up at the specatcle of the Caped Crusader of Gotham City being utterly unable to handle a pair of common housecats.

Round 2 was against Morand. As he freely admitted to me before the match, precision strike was his team's kryptonite. My plan was to swarm in, pick off the goons one by one, and rely on how hard it is to actually land a hit on the animals to keep Lex/Joker and Harlequin busy until all their support was gone and they'd be easy pickings. Unfortunately I screwed up and underestimated Lex/Joker's outwit. With a free chance to have Streaky do a hypersonic run-by on whoever I liked, I didn't realize that the one goon who was able to wildcard to Superman Enemy was a priority, and took out a regular one instead. That hurt me really, really bad, as with two outwits a turn Morand could keep all of my move-and-attack powers turned off, and that team doesn't have range, it relies on charge and hypersonic to get into melee. If I moved in, they'd just all sidestep away, and tiny animals are easy to break away from. So yeah, my fault, and I paid for it as my team got immobilized and slowly shot to death. It did not, however, help that the dice were completely against me. I missed all my shape change and super senses rolls and I realize that Lex/Joker have a 12 attack, but against a 20 or 21 defense from range that's still not an easy hit, and yet they simply could not miss me. Most of the blame stays with me, but I'm disgruntled at a lot of those rolls.

Round 3 was against a JLI team of White Lantern Martian Manhunter, Blue Beetle and Booster Gold from WF, and Batman at 100 points. This guy didn't seem to realize that Beetle and Booster's double powers work if they target the other one or themselves, and I wasn't about to tell him, so that helped. Also by this point I had a good handle on how the team played. Swarm up on the biggest threat, give him death by a thousand cuts while ignoring everyone else, repeat. Dex-Starr took a minor hit but that was actually beneficial, because I got to use his penetrating poison to burn down the Manhunter and Batman. Once I realized that we were standing in hindering terrain and I could use "Broccoli! Why can't it be meat?" to turn off all of Manhunter's healing tricks, things got a lot easier.

So yeah, went 2-1 and should've taken second place on points, but oh well. I got to play the entirely dogs and cats team I've wanted to play since Streaky got previewed, so I'm happy.



And hey! While I was procrastinating writing this up, Michaelangelo and Leonardo got previewed! Mikey joins Raph in the "the 1984 version simply crushes the 2012 one" club (Donatello was a wash, I think), and Leo is the first one where I'd actually rather pay the 10 extra points. Blades for his whole dial and proper mega-leadership when he's bossing his brothers around; that's the Leonardo I expected.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
TMNT preview: Casey Jones!

That dial would be a steal at 50 points. He costs 30.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
HCRealms' unit section has the starter set turtles up, and they're hot garbage. Morand and I discussed it, and based on their common trait (Shell Shock), we have decided that obviously these versions represent the arcade game. This explains why their attacks barely hurt and why they are so easy to kill. They are trying to eat your quarters!

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Dexie posted:

What is that?
Age of Apocalypse Sabretooth with Wild Child.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
This week was 300 points, and you had to have at least 4 figures on your team. I asked if team bases would count as one figure per attached guy, expecting to be denied, and was instead told that was okay. After considering the Zombies, Shi'ar Imperial Guard, Justice League, and Hellfire Club at full points, I played:

Hellfire Club: Inner Circle 180
/w Black King 5
/w Black Queen 5
/w White King 5
/w White Queen (original) 5
Hellfire Club Guard x2 72
R Hellfire Guard 11

Total 285

E Hellfire Guards are 15 points exactly, but it turns out I don't have any. When the judge saw my team he told me that was exactly what he expected ever since I asked if team bases would count, which surprised me a great deal since I'd considered so many other team bases first and also even if you counted the team base as one guy, I still had 4 characters on my force, so my question ended up irrelevant.

Round 1 was against an Animal team of Menagerie, Red Wolf, Klarion, and Blackwing. I popped off Black King so I'd have a secondary attacker and sent him into melee while the Inner Circle and their guards held back and sniped. My dice were just completely ice cold. I kept on missing attack after attack. Lobo had the Inner Circle tied up, and they simply could not hit him. I managed to knock Blackwing to a useless click (2 damage means you can't dent anyone I care about), but Black King got hit all the way to his very last click. Thankfully I was able to do a hypersonic breakaway, run back to the Inner Circle, and then have them reabsorb him. Next turn he popped back out again all nice and healed up, but now he had to stay close as Mastermind fodder because all my guards had died (I'd landed on the White King/mastermind and stealth asset click a few turns ago, though). Menagerie managed to avoid every single attack for a solid six turns as she just kept landing Shape Change. I didn't win this game so much as not lose it; my ridiculous amount of damage mitigation let me just wait out my horrible dice rolls until I lucked out enough times. Ended up KOing everybody and scoring a full 300 points.

Round 2 was against technically a Justice League theme team, but it was really Team Batman: Armored movie Batman, 100 point WF SR Batman, 25 point Batgirl, and a Batman/Superman Robot. (The venue has a highlander rule, and I bitched that it was in violation, but movie Batman doesn't have a real name on his card so it technically skated. That's some bullshit IMO.) Armored Batman is scarily effective on his top click, with that 8 range psyblast and outwit. My dice remained abominable, but Black King was able to land a solid blow on SR Batman early, which limited his effectiveness. And my horrible dice helped me in a way; the robot can't act unless you hit somebody, and I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, so it spent most of the game just standing around being useless. Still, I couldn't hit a 14 defense. Twice. Once again I lost all my goons and Black King got beat onto his last click, whereupon he had to run back and be reabsorbed and then taken back out next turn to be mastermind fodder. This time, though, I hadn't managed to land on White King/mastermind and stealth. I was on Black King/mastermind and stealth, and I realized that that was simply going to have to be good enough, because if I stopped having mastermind, the Inner Circle was gonna start taking a real beating. Once again I simply outlasted the other team. When I finally landed a hit on Armored Batman, the Batman/Superman Robot came over to retaliate. Black King managed to land a hit on it now that it was close, so no more robot. Then I finally managed to punch out Batgirl, which dropped his outwit to tolerable levels. Eventually I hit Armored Batman, which made him much less effective, and then I had two attackers who could hurt his guys, and he really couldn't hurt mine. KOed everybody again and got another 300 points.

Round 3 was against the Doom Patrol, and though my dice just never woke up all day -- this time I missed a 15 twice -- they never had a chance. It's a good team but they just plain couldn't hurt me. Sure, Elastigirl is really hard to hit, but I'd been dealing with most of my attacks being misses all day, and once you do hit her, she folds, and without her, the team's got really nothing when it comes to damage dealers. Negative Man is an annoyance and Mento burned himself to death on mind control feedback. I intentionally let a goon die (I could have masterminded the damage onto a different one who would have survived it) because I wanted the outwit/perplex to help take down Elastigirl (didn't help, incidentally, I missed her anyway), but otherwise this was a clean sweep. Oh, and to add insult to injury, I rolled a 1 the first time I turned the asset dial, so I got to spend the entire game on that White King/mastermind and stealth click. Ended up going 3-0 with a perfect 900 points.

The Hellfire Club feels like cheating, really. Oh, you're going to hit me? That's nice, if it's 3 damage or less I just soak it all, and if it's more than that I just offload it onto one of my disposable idiots, so I stay top dial while you wear yourself out on stuff I am ignoring. Oh, you killed all my mastermind fodder? Well, I guess I'll just dump the damage onto Black King, who gets better and better as he takes damage. You actually got Black King near death? Time to take him off the board and then bring him back next turn on click 5, oh and I can do this literally as many times as I want and you can't ever stop me, because neither that nor the asset Mastermind is outwittable.

I mean, "I'm always at the top of my game and I'm just going to stand here and do whatever I want and ignore all your futile efforts to stop me" is very thematic for the Hellfire Club, but it's so drat powerful. They'd be even better in a 400 point game, since you could play 'em top-dial and actually get multiple actions per turn with Working Together.

CapnAndy fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Mar 21, 2016

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
Haha oops.

Well, it wouldn't have mattered much, although Armor Batman might have gotten a hit or two in before his outwit fell off.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
Emma Frost preview, common and prime. Both are quite good, but three very interesting things have been revealed and completely uncommented-upon:
1) Optional costed traits are a thing now.
2) Stop clicks are an official game mechanic, keyworded as STOP.
3) Looks like the horrible ugly card redesign with printed dials got poo poo-canned.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Torrent posted:

The next X-Men set was never going to have the new card style - they said in the article announcing the new cards that the Wolverine card they were showing was just a mock-up, and the style wouldn't be used until later sets. There was a picture from GAMA showing a Spider-Man card from Superior Foes (one assumes) that uses the new style. Thankfully, it's been redesigned a bit, and doesn't look as awful as the initial mock-up.

Take a look.
Ugh. Still hideous. I especially like the giant useless 3d render taking up a fourth of the drat front.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

ManiacClown posted:

A) The STOP. wording really illustrates their need to come out with updated rules. How exactly are we supposed to read that? Can it be ignored?

B) I've already put in a question as to the "maximum damage taken" trait. Is it a reduction? Is everything above 1 being ignored? Does the character take 1 instead of a higher amount? These are important distinctions.
A) I'm pretty sure it means that updated rules are so imminent they'll be out either with or before X-Men, which is why how conspicuously the preview didn't mention "hey check out that keyword there, that's new huh" stood out so much.

B) It's an ignore effect. If you'd take any damage for any reason from a ranged attack, you take 1 damage. But if you could soak it to zero with your imperv, you can still soak it to zero.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

ManiacClown posted:

Fuckity ding dong, WizKids. Two years without a proper revised rulebook, especially when you're making changes like equipped items and the size changes? :drat:
Honest to God, posting "oh lol here's a new game effect which we're not going to define either on the cards or in the rules" articles on their website is not cute, and they've done it like four times now.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
I'm a genuinely demented soul who enjoys editing. I will read your dreck and make it not dreck.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

The Grammar Aryan posted:

Fun fact: I'm pretty sure this means they're using Adobe InDesign to create their documentation. I can only guess as to how horrible their source files must look, and explains the font error on the Black Lantern Anti-Monitor's dial.
Is anyone shocked at this point that WizKids is running a barebones and probably understaffed organization?

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CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Red posted:

Modern Age Rotation

Constructs are out for modern age starting June 1st, which is odd, because new OP figures use them. Oh well.

I didn't think GotG was getting phased out, and I'm bummed I haven't used DoFP stuff more often.
That's all the entities, Copycat, Nimrod, and the DoFP Sentinels all getting rotated out with two months to go.

That noise you're hearing today is the sound of literally everyone's Worlds teams going up in flames.

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