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SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

credburn posted:

The initial idea for this was not actually a dramatization, but rather an audiobook. Most audiobooks are done by a single person doing all the voice work, narration, men and women, and that's fine. The idea is to convey the game's story...but we want this to evolve into a real radio drama-esque production and I would love to broaden our cast. Maybe for our next game we'll enlist some goons to fill in the other characters.

Hmm. I guess I read the initial premise as a radio drama but that makes sense. Either way this idea as a radio drama would be loving awesome IMO. Potentially, anyway.

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credburn
Jun 22, 2016
A tangled skein of bad opinions, the hottest takes, and the the world's most misinformed nonsense. Do not engage with me, it's useless, and better yet, put me on ignore.
We want it to become like a radio drama. Maybe in a few months we can muster the funds to compensate real actors helping out, upgrade our equipment, get a real thing going. For now, it's just me and Girlfriend.

psychopomp
Jan 28, 2011
If you guys are based in a major city with a film/theatre scene it's actually really easy to get actors for a project, and the main expense is feeding them.

Meowjesty
Oct 23, 2009

Friends depend on each other.
I feel like the Black Tapes is trolling me specifically at this point.

Diet Poison
Jan 20, 2008

LICK MY ASS
Started "The Bright Sessions" but I'm gonna drop it if it doesn't pick up. Like, "Within the Wires" didn't take near as long to start peppering in the "things are not as they seem". I get that the doctor has an ulterior motive, she mentions at the end of one of the time-traveler episodes, but after listening to an entire episode of the empath talking about feelings, and an entire episode of the telepath talking about feelings, I'm gonna need this thing to kick into high gear soon.

Thread convinced me to drop Tanis like a spicy keychain. When it's 'on', I really like it, like when he detailed the journey and the impossible building(s), but the main character is the worst investigator (and I didn't notice his constant repeat-line-in-form-of-question thing until this thread but now it drives me nuts, thanks), the sarcastic pixie hacker girl is irritating, and every time he brings Alex in to read something I just become acutely aware this is a performance and not real. Black Tapes is better at keeping me immersed. They both pad out their story too much with weaving massive conspiracies making you concentrate too hard on following the overarching story to notice how much it's dicking around, the "X-Files Method", I call it, and the ad copy is way more grating than any other podcasts I listen to. Maybe because I listen to Bill Burr's podcast and get to hear him say "don't tell me I love the product, don't put fuckin' words in my mouth" and "no they didn't send me one, actually" really makes me scrutinize how false it sounds when Nic and Alex talk about how much they fuckin' love their Bombas Socks and Casper mattresses.

I love Wolf 359, as far as "Wolf 359 is ok but does anyone know of something in space, but less zany?" goes, how far are you into the show? It takes a turn and becomes decidedly much less zany and much more tense.

immolationsex
Sep 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW I ENJOY RUINING STEAK LIKE A GODDAMN BARBARIAN
Thanks for asking, 20 is the last episode I listened to. I think I know what you mean by things taking a more serious turn, but it feels like all this setup is very slow in leading to any actual payoff. I'll grant that this is probably my pet peeve talking here, but I've always held that comedy is the ultimate suspense-killer, and at the 20-episode mark Eiffel is still being essentially a stand-in for Jar-Jar Binks, and the commander is oh-so-exasperated with the incompetence and malingering around her. Were still firmly in sitcom-in-space territory, in other words.

So is this what I can expect, going forward? I don't want to come across as too negative, I appreciate what the creators have done here for what it is, but I'm starting to think this just isn't for me. I'd like for the story to focus more on the actual, suspenseful story elements, and phase out the slapstick altogether.

Inkspot
Dec 3, 2013

I believe I have
an appointment.
Mr. Goongala?

Diet Poison posted:

Started "The Bright Sessions" but I'm gonna drop it if it doesn't pick up. Like, "Within the Wires" didn't take near as long to start peppering in the "things are not as they seem". I get that the doctor has an ulterior motive, she mentions at the end of one of the time-traveler episodes, but after listening to an entire episode of the empath talking about feelings, and an entire episode of the telepath talking about feelings, I'm gonna need this thing to kick into high gear soon.

The first two hours are a bit slow and Caleb's storyline is particularly rough because he's kind of isolated from the rest of the characters for a huge chunk of the series. It gets better when Damien shows up and Dr. Bright starts to spill more about the AM.

Archive 81 was... good? I think? I might have to give it another listen now that it's all out.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

Diet Poison posted:

Started "The Bright Sessions" but I'm gonna drop it if it doesn't pick up. Like, "Within the Wires" didn't take near as long to start peppering in the "things are not as they seem". I get that the doctor has an ulterior motive, she mentions at the end of one of the time-traveler episodes, but after listening to an entire episode of the empath talking about feelings, and an entire episode of the telepath talking about feelings, I'm gonna need this thing to kick into high gear soon.

Thread convinced me to drop Tanis like a spicy keychain. When it's 'on', I really like it, like when he detailed the journey and the impossible building(s), but the main character is the worst investigator (and I didn't notice his constant repeat-line-in-form-of-question thing until this thread but now it drives me nuts, thanks), the sarcastic pixie hacker girl is irritating, and every time he brings Alex in to read something I just become acutely aware this is a performance and not real. Black Tapes is better at keeping me immersed. They both pad out their story too much with weaving massive conspiracies making you concentrate too hard on following the overarching story to notice how much it's dicking around, the "X-Files Method", I call it, and the ad copy is way more grating than any other podcasts I listen to. Maybe because I listen to Bill Burr's podcast and get to hear him say "don't tell me I love the product, don't put fuckin' words in my mouth" and "no they didn't send me one, actually" really makes me scrutinize how false it sounds when Nic and Alex talk about how much they fuckin' love their Bombas Socks and Casper mattresses.

I love Wolf 359, as far as "Wolf 359 is ok but does anyone know of something in space, but less zany?" goes, how far are you into the show? It takes a turn and becomes decidedly much less zany and much more tense.

Bright Sessions gets good in my opinion and it's short to catch up on even if you don't like it.

This week's Within the Wires was great and I'm glad I stuck with it this long.

Archive 81 I thought ended strongly and I look forward to a second season.

Ars Paradoxica had a great Season 1 but season 2 isn't keeping my interest.

But this last month or so the best find was Magnus Archive. I finally caught up and am really dissapointed there's not more. It really rewards paying attention to and I can't wait for the wiki to be more fleshed out for things that I missed. It's what The Black Tapes wishes it was.

Montalvo
Sep 3, 2007



Fun Shoe

Hughlander posted:

Archive 81 I thought ended strongly and I look forward to a second season.

I legitimately have no idea what happened at the end of Archive 81.

Diet Poison
Jan 20, 2008

LICK MY ASS

immolationsex posted:

Thanks for asking, 20 is the last episode I listened to. I think I know what you mean by things taking a more serious turn, but it feels like all this setup is very slow in leading to any actual payoff. I'll grant that this is probably my pet peeve talking here, but I've always held that comedy is the ultimate suspense-killer, and at the 20-episode mark Eiffel is still being essentially a stand-in for Jar-Jar Binks, and the commander is oh-so-exasperated with the incompetence and malingering around her. Were still firmly in sitcom-in-space territory, in other words.

So is this what I can expect, going forward? I don't want to come across as too negative, I appreciate what the creators have done here for what it is, but I'm starting to think this just isn't for me. I'd like for the story to focus more on the actual, suspenseful story elements, and phase out the slapstick altogether.

Looked through the archive (slow work day!) and without spoiling anything...
OK, so you already know there's something up with Hilbert. In 22 a new character appears who changes the dynamic quite a bit. And then it changes again significantly... somewhere before 32. The episode descriptions make sure not to spoil it (good for them, too) and I don't have a good enough memory. But it's either 29, 30, or 31.
I wouldn't say keep going if you hate it, but maybe if you listen to the next two it'll draw you in long enough to where the tone really changes around 30.

Also RE: Bright Sessions, Damien is only a few away but he was name dropped in the last one I listened to. I think I'm just gonna listen to the next Sam one, then skip to Damien. The last Caleb one was really hard to get through.

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.
I want to like Manus Archives, but the narrator sounds exactly like what I think "Pipe Smoking Goon" sounds like and I can't help but be irritated the entire time at how insufferable be sounds.

I thought the ending of Archive 81 was weak, but serviceable. I'm curious where there going to go with it now that they're out of the archive which was their while schtick.

Drunk Tomato
Apr 23, 2010

If God wanted us sober,
He'd knock the glass over.
I was just about to post about my positive reactions to The Message, but then... the epilogue happened. Wtf? Why add that Scooby-Doo poo poo into your story at the last moment?

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
what happened?

Drunk Tomato
Apr 23, 2010

If God wanted us sober,
He'd knock the glass over.

Tatum Girlparts posted:

what happened?

(Complete spoilers for The Message)

So the show basically follows a young journalist student who winds up covering the story of an agency trying to decode an alien radio message. Turns out that listening to the message ends up making people sick, and eventually killing them. In the end, they figure out a way to stop or "reverse" the effects, and then the journalist says basically "okay that's it, The End."

Then the epilogue is a secret recording that one of the scientists takes of the journalist confessing the whole time to being a secret, 700-year-old alien who came with the message to give humanity a choice between choosing using the message for war or for peace. Completely out of left field.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

ManMythLegend posted:

I want to like Manus Archives, but the narrator sounds exactly like what I think "Pipe Smoking Goon" sounds like and I can't help but be irritated the entire time at how insufferable be sounds.

That's a good part of why I liked it. When he breaks character or after making GBS threads on Martin for so long you hear from him and realize Jonathan is just a dick.

Inkspot
Dec 3, 2013

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Mr. Goongala?

Montalvo posted:

I legitimately have no idea what happened at the end of Archive 81.

My best guess...

Voss Holdings constructed the Visser building in New York in the 50's to house some kind of entity. Lots of weird, creative poo poo happened around the building and its tenants. In the 90's, Melody tried to record the weirdness and things came to a head between her and Samuel, who worshipped/was the entity. Something about Victor being unrecordable vs. the need for Visser's "story" to be told. Most of the connections between the company, the building, Samuel, and the entity are unclear at best.

When whatever happened happened, Visser imploded and the Housing Historical Committee or Urban Preservation and Development Department of New York State or whoever Davenport actually works for collected Melody's tapes and 34 corpses. Twenty years later, Dan was hired to listen to all the tapes, finally releasing Samuel/The Entity/Whatever and has now "gone into hiding" with his new pet rat.

Amateur Sketch
Feb 23, 2008

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of all your hopes and dreams
Oh Black Tapes, how quickly you discard the culmination of a plot thread. The sheer deadpan response was absolutely baffling.

ManMythLegend posted:

I want to like Manus Archives, but the narrator sounds exactly like what I think "Pipe Smoking Goon" sounds like and I can't help but be irritated the entire time at how insufferable be sounds.

I think insufferable character is intended. I'm just glad he can use enough inflection to add horror or suspense to the story (much better than the flat/mildly-concerned delivery in the PNWS podcasts.). They do a great job on the background music too.

Slamhound
Mar 27, 2010

ManMythLegend posted:

I want to like Manus Archives, but the narrator sounds exactly like what I think "Pipe Smoking Goon" sounds like and I can't help but be irritated the entire time at how insufferable be sounds.
The narrator grew on me, but he definitely had to do so.

ManMythLegend posted:

I thought the ending of Archive 81 was weak, but serviceable. I'm curious where there going to go with it now that they're out of the archive which was their while schtick.
I liked the ending, but I think the the whole thing would have benefitted from more episodes. There really weren't enough to justify the main character's freaking out so quickly about what he was listening to, and there were enough narrative layers that more episodes would have added to the story without the wheel-spinning bloat of the PNWS podcasts.

Montalvo
Sep 3, 2007



Fun Shoe
Can someone spoiler Black Tapes for me? I gave up like 3 episodes into season 2 because I couldn't handle the bullshit anymore.

Slamhound
Mar 27, 2010

Montalvo posted:

Can someone spoiler Black Tapes for me? I gave up like 3 episodes into season 2 because I couldn't handle the bullshit anymore.
It sucks.

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Amateur Sketch posted:

I think insufferable character is intended. I'm just glad he can use enough inflection to add horror or suspense to the story (much better than the flat/mildly-concerned delivery in the PNWS podcasts.). They do a great job on the background music too.

I should have been more clear. I don't have a problem with the character being an insufferable rear end in a top hat accomplished scholar and archivist, but the horrible accent just makes the character sound like an insufferable goon reading creepypasta.

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Montalvo posted:

Can someone spoiler Black Tapes for me? I gave up like 3 episodes into season 2 because I couldn't handle the bullshit anymore.

Percival Black and Daeva Corporation are trying to bring about some sort of demon apocalypse with some weird noisecore symphony. The PWNS team is tricked into playing it on the air in order and kicking it off.

BrainParasite
Jan 24, 2003


Drunk Tomato posted:

I was just about to post about my positive reactions to The Message, but then... the epilogue happened. Wtf? Why add that Scooby-Doo poo poo into your story at the last moment?

Also, no one in that show has any moral concerns about a government contractor just hacking everybody's private info (presented by GE).

Amateur Sketch
Feb 23, 2008

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ManMythLegend posted:

Percival Black and Daeva Corporation are trying to bring about some sort of demon apocalypse with some weird noisecore symphony. The PWNS team is tricked into playing it on the air in order and kicking it off.

Also, in the last ep Strand's wife shows up, steals Strand and Alex who were about to meet the Daeva Corp guy, whispers something to Strand and leaves immediately after Alex asks to interview her. Strand emotionlessly repeats her dialogue: she was an agent of a secret society sent to protect him, but after she fell in love and married him she tried to keep him from both "sides". She had to disappear for a while and is still working for the secret group, who think Strand's genes have a key to mystical powers or something.

Bonus comedy spoiler: Strand never had the million dollars he promised for paranormal evidence, and he can't get research money for an "Institute" that's two people and a closet full of VHS tapes

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

ManMythLegend posted:

Percival Black and Daeva Corporation are trying to bring about some sort of demon apocalypse with some weird noisecore symphony. The PWNS team is tricked into playing it on the air in order and kicking it off.

Alex realizes this in the final moments of the episode and instead of emoting her lines at all delivers the realization completely deadpan in probably the lowest point of the voice acting of the entire series (which is saying something). It was so poorly done, I laughed out loud.

Montalvo
Sep 3, 2007



Fun Shoe
Cool, I'm glad I stopped listening.

calandryll
Apr 25, 2003

Ask me where I do my best drinking!



Pillbug
Yeah that sounds pretty bad. Definitely glad I stopped listening as well.

Montalvo
Sep 3, 2007



Fun Shoe
Within the Wires is shaping up quite nicely. I'm enjoying the slow burn forwards.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

Montalvo posted:

Within the Wires is shaping up quite nicely. I'm enjoying the slow burn forwards.

I think I said it this thread already but this last episode was really enjoyable and it's hitting on all cylinders for me.

Also for people on the fence about Magnus Archive or not liking the guys voice / affects... Try this weeks... 32 "Hive" I thought it was really effective, and how it contrasts with the other narrations is great.

Kraps
Sep 9, 2011

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Let's talk about how Edict Zero - FIS is the freaking best but it has a slow burn that's so slow you can get white hairs by the time you catch up.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

Kraps posted:

Let's talk about how Edict Zero - FIS is the freaking best but it has a slow burn that's so slow you can get white hairs by the time you catch up.

I listen to almost all of my podcasts with Overcast with Smart Speed and Speed Boost (Drop dead noise and increase speed.) I couldn't get past the first Edict Zero episode because I couldn't find a speed that wasn't either too fast or too slow based on who was talking. Is it REALLY worth listening to at normal speed? I dropped it within an hour for that.

calandryll
Apr 25, 2003

Ask me where I do my best drinking!



Pillbug
I've listened to everything as it was coming out. It's not bad but I find some of the voice acting to get in the way. Sometimes the effects are also mixed terribly. I dropped it after their 2 year hiatus because I couldn't remember what the hell happened.

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

The main cast is ok but every minor character or voice the creator of the show does is agonizingly bad

DeusExMchna
Nov 9, 2013

2 thicc 2 exist
Lipstick Apathy
So i continue to listen to PNWS stuff because i like pain, but has it been discussed how they just copy+paste their Eastern European accented (or just some with a fake accent??) voice actress on both shows? Its weird hearing her be Veronica in Tanis and Amalia in TBT and a little immersion breaking too. Interestingly enough, Alice/Wtnv doesn't bother me with their use of Jasika Nicole because in the former shes the main character and in the latter she's a guest appearance that pops in like twice a season.

Also i remain frustrated that Nic is a tech guru in TBT but a giant oaf in Tanis. Seriously if they exist in the same universe they should be consistent.

Inkspot
Dec 3, 2013

I believe I have
an appointment.
Mr. Goongala?
The Message seems like it would have actually benefitted from a generic, shadowy corporation digging up all the info they could, legitimately or otherwise, to decode the signal instead of using government agencies and employees. And that ending... Woof.

immolationsex
Sep 16, 2002
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oatgan posted:

The main cast is ok but every minor character or voice the creator of the show does is agonizingly bad
It's pretty funny how they seem to think that doing a voice incredibly nasally is

1. Enough to make the audience think they got someone different to do that character, and
2. how anyone, anywhere, ever, actually talks

Apart from that, I'm impressed by the production values and, yes, voice acting of the main cast. Certainly a far cry from some of the other stuff that's come up in this thread.

Kraps
Sep 9, 2011

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

Hughlander posted:

I listen to almost all of my podcasts with Overcast with Smart Speed and Speed Boost (Drop dead noise and increase speed.) I couldn't get past the first Edict Zero episode because I couldn't find a speed that wasn't either too fast or too slow based on who was talking. Is it REALLY worth listening to at normal speed? I dropped it within an hour for that.

My own notes on the cast: they reuse the actors a lot so sometimes it's easy to confuse who's what. Agent Kircher is pretty grating in the beginning. The first two or three bits with Captain Socrates are hard to listen to but he later becomes one of the consistently best characters. The Ambassador(s)... you just gotta roll with it, it grows on you.

I listen to story podcasts at normal speed and audiobooks a bit quicker, I think it's the way they are narrated.

Kraps fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Aug 21, 2016

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!
I just finished season 2 of black tapes and while I agree that it pretty much sucks I kinda couldn't stop listening once I got deep enough into it.

They do this thing like every episode that is so dumb that I can't imagine it has gone unnoticed.

"Alex, take a look at this..."
Pause for 10 seconds while dramatic music plays
"Wow, its that thing"

Like we can't see the thing guys, you have to describe it for us first, then cut to the pause for dramatic effect music so we can be shocked.

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
*mysterious ominous thud noise plays*

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Cast Iron Brick
Apr 24, 2008
The point at which the sound effects went from diagetic to ambience is really telling about the show's quality.

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