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TwoPair posted:DT I find your unabashed love of Jason Todd in the face of adversity strangely endearing, but I simply cannot condone someone willingly reading a comic featuring Joker's Daughter To be fair his ideal use makes her more of a cardboard cutout for Jason rather than a protagonist.
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Is there much of a difference between Joker's Daughter and that one sidekick Jason had during Batman and Robin?
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Die Laughing posted:Is there much of a difference between Joker's Daughter and that one sidekick Jason had during Batman and Robin? While the dynamic is very similar, there are a few differences. Sasha was a lost girl being influenced by Jason's ideas while JD is just being steered into the redemption path by Jason and Roy (but the choice is ultimately hers), plus Roy's presence being a new element to consider. I wouldn't be surprised if JD becomes the new Scarlett though.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:While the dynamic is very similar, there are a few differences. Sasha was a lost girl being influenced by Jason's ideas while JD is just being steered into the redemption path by Jason and Roy (but the choice is ultimately hers), plus Roy's presence being a new element to consider. ... I hesitate to ask, but does Joker's Daughter have an actual name?
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Jan 4, 2016 18:43
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Jokerina.
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Joker S. Daughter
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Helga Laffsdóttir.
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Jan 4, 2016 18:46
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I don't know about the new 52 version, but as originally designed she was "Duella Dent", Two-face's daughter. She became Joker themed to piss off the old man, or something.
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Jan 4, 2016 18:52
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Haha, always Lurdiak with the comedic fibs! Also don't listen to him about Joker's Daughter's teammates, who we all know are Reed Hod and the Kryptonian Arse-El.
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Jan 4, 2016 18:56
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You got me, this is just like that time I had some of y'all convinced she wore Joker's face that she found in the sewers.
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Jan 4, 2016 19:10
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Jan 4, 2016 19:24
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Lurdiak posted:You got me, this is just like that time I had some of y'all convinced she wore Joker's face that she found in the sewers. 
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Jan 4, 2016 19:29
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Man, I like Jason a lot, and Outlaws had some good moments, but this...this is not good.
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Jan 4, 2016 19:31
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What is she so angry about? Who is she? What is her motivation? Why does anybody give a poo poo? That's right, nobody does give a poo poo
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Jan 4, 2016 19:36
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Travis343 posted:What is she so angry about? Who is she? What is her motivation? Why does anybody give a poo poo? That's right, nobody does give a poo poo Does she have any super powers or unusual abilities or skills? Serious question.
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Jan 4, 2016 19:50
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Any kind of potential for her idolization of Joker and mentorship with Jason being interesting is killed by how blank slate JD is. If you take away idolizing Joker she just becomes a random civilian. There's not much to explore with that idolization because it just boils down to "crazy lady like Jokeyman". Even if I want to be as unfair as possible to Joker, he at least has a Hannibal Lecter style relation with Batman that gives him more characterization beyond crazy man. JD doesn't have anything like that with anyone and Lobdell isn't building anything. Like, I agree with DT that on paper there's potential there but Lobdell ain't a writer who can fix just how boring/bad JD is.
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Jan 4, 2016 19:54
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Travis343 posted:What is she so angry about? Who is she? What is her motivation? Why does anybody give a poo poo?    A talented writer could take this as a springboard and develop her further. DrProsek posted:Lobdell ain't a writer 
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Dario the Wop posted:A talented writer could take this as a springboard and develop her further. Pretty good writing brought down by atrocious art and character design. 
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Jan 4, 2016 20:11
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And then they had her get the face stitched to her own. Did Snyder ever say where Joker got his new face? Is it his original and thus invalidating all that nonsense with Joker's Daughter?
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Rhyno posted:And then they had her get the face stitched to her own. Did Snyder ever say where Joker got his new face? Is it his original and thus invalidating all that nonsense with Joker's Daughter? I thought it was due to healing fluid that they both fell into at the end of the storyline.
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bobkatt013 posted:I thought it was due to healing fluid that they both fell into at the end of the storyline. He had a face back at the start of Endgame.
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Rhyno posted:He had a face back at the start of Endgame. Yeah but that's where he fell at the end of Death of the Family.
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Rhyno posted:He had a face back at the start of Endgame.
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WickedHate posted:Pretty good writing brought down by atrocious art and character design. Yeah, those pages have some genuinely interesting writing that almost make me want to know more about the character, until I remember everything else I've ever heard about the character.
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Jan 4, 2016 20:21
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Joker's Daughter is such a bad idea it makes the Joker worse by extension, and the entire Batman thing, and the entire DC thing, and comic books, and America. I would take a million ONE-FACEs if it would convince DC that Joker's Daughter is a bad idea that does not need to be done except in an extremely purposefully campy and corny way Chinaman7000 fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jan 4, 2016 |
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Jan 4, 2016 20:53
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Joker's Daughter (gently caress I hate just typing that name) feels like a character everyone knows sucks but someone up high has it in their mind that this is the character of the future so it must work dammit. She pretty much feels like a square peg writer's are forced to jam into a round whole because it's their boss's favourite character.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:01
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I just think the character's superfluous with Harley Quinn running around.
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Joker's Daughter would own if it was like, an OG Harley Quinn thing but even goofier, where Joker has a daughter who is a teen rebel and he has to deal with her doing things like going on dates with Robin and getting good grades instead of bombing her school, and he's like "well young lady, your crocodile pit privileges are revoked!" and then she slams her door and listens to pop music super loud.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:03
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Chinaman7000 posted:I would take a million ONE-FACEs if it would convince DC that Joker's Daughter is a bad idea that does not need to be done except in an extremely purposefully campy and corny way Joker's Daughter 66.
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Lurdiak posted:Joker's Daughter would own if it was like, an OG Harley Quinn thing but even goofier, where Joker has a daughter who is a teen rebel and he has to deal with her doing things like going on dates with Robin and getting good grades instead of bombing her school, and he's like "well young lady, your crocodile pit privileges are revoked!" and then she slams her door and listens to pop music super loud. Would read this comic book. (Although I also liked Galacta, the daughter of Galactus, so my taste is suspect.)
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prefect posted:Would read this comic book. (Although I also liked Galacta, the daughter of Galactus, so my taste is suspect.) I am picturing it as a cartoon where Mark Hamil voices Joker.
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Lurdiak posted:Joker's Daughter would own if it was like, an OG Harley Quinn thing but even goofier, where Joker has a daughter who is a teen rebel and he has to deal with her doing things like going on dates with Robin and getting good grades instead of bombing her school, and he's like "well young lady, your crocodile pit privileges are revoked!" and then she slams her door and listens to pop music super loud. See that sounds like something pre-Nu52 while we got the character that skipped right into grim and gritty. Actually what was her portrayal like pre-crisis? I am assuming she was less so over the top crrrraaaaaaazzeeeee!
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Gee golly fellas, I'm gettin kind of sick of the Joker, and heck, Batman as well.
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Lurdiak posted:Joker's Daughter would own if it was like, an OG Harley Quinn thing but even goofier, where Joker has a daughter who is a teen rebel and he has to deal with her doing things like going on dates with Robin and getting good grades instead of bombing her school, and he's like "well young lady, your crocodile pit privileges are revoked!" and then she slams her door and listens to pop music super loud. On. board. This would fit into the DC Nation shorts oeuvre perfectly. Madkal posted:See that sounds like something pre-Nu52 while we got the character that skipped right into grim and gritty.  
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zoux posted:Gee golly fellas, I'm gettin kind of sick of the Joker, and heck, Batman as well. "No one could ever get sick of Batman and the Joker." - Everyone at TW.
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Lurdiak posted:I am picturing it as a cartoon where Mark Hamil voices Joker. Daisy Ridley voicing Joker's Daughter.
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Rhyno posted:"No one could ever get sick of Batman and the Joker." - Everyone at TW. Well, sales figures seem to bear this out...
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DrProsek posted:Any kind of potential for her idolization of Joker and mentorship with Jason being interesting is killed by how blank slate JD is. If you take away idolizing Joker she just becomes a random civilian. There's not much to explore with that idolization because it just boils down to "crazy lady like Jokeyman". I dunno, I think Lobdell's taking her character in an interesting direction.   And hey, he will put her into therapy. That is always interesting to see.
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Stop typing about Joker's Daughter, everybody.
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