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nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

iwentdoodie posted:

Where from, if you don't mind? I live on the edge of the IE (Temecula/Murrieta)

It's the most desolate place I've ever lived as far as poo poo to do. Everything is drive to LA or SD.

Redlands. Which itself isn't bad, but it is surrounded by poo poo.

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kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
After seeing this: http://www.fourwheeler.com/features/1504-1990-ford-crown-victoria-trophy-ltd/
I've become obsessed with having a mildly lifted RWD sedan to beat around in (not anything close to the capability of that Crown Vic). Parts of Fury Road that really spoke to me are finally bubbling up from my subconscious.
My thinking was to lift a couple inches and fit on narrower and taller profile tires.

Suggestions for cheap RWD platforms?

I saw this: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5321510945.html
and this: http://universalcarlifts.com/product_info.php?products_id=46

But this'd be a whole hell of a lot cheaper: http://universalcarlifts.com/product_info.php?products_id=63

Either way, I could finally recapture a New England Rallyx RWD championship. Assuming those kits didn't destroy themselves/me before I'd locked down the season.

The Royal Nonesuch
Nov 1, 2005

kimbo305 posted:

mildly lifted RWD sedan

Stock XJ Cherokees with sagged out leafs are pretty easy to find, and sedan-size by modern standards :v:

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

The Royal Nonesuch posted:

Stock XJ Cherokees with sagged out leafs are pretty easy to find, and sedan-size by modern standards :v:

I specifically want a normal sedan that's lifted. This looks like a pure body lift, but still :getin:

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

IOwnCalculus posted:

Fireworks have only been legal for a few years now in Phoenix, so I'm still getting used to the fact that it has sounded like drat near constant gunfire all around my house for the last four hours.

Except today was a no burn day and I worked a call tonight (just got off) where the cop was charging them with violating the no burn because it ended up as a "fire," technically :cop:

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug
Happy New Year! 2015 was pretty sweet and 2016 is going to be better still.

Hosted the party and somehow ended up with a bunch of top shelf rums and gins as well as a selection of cheeses. Worth the small burn mark my tipsy friend made on the floor when she forgot how to hold on to a sparkler.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


kimbo305 posted:

After seeing this: http://www.fourwheeler.com/features/1504-1990-ford-crown-victoria-trophy-ltd/
I've become obsessed with having a mildly lifted RWD sedan to beat around in (not anything close to the capability of that Crown Vic). Parts of Fury Road that really spoke to me are finally bubbling up from my subconscious.
My thinking was to lift a couple inches and fit on narrower and taller profile tires.

Suggestions for cheap RWD platforms?

I saw this: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5321510945.html
and this: http://universalcarlifts.com/product_info.php?products_id=46

But this'd be a whole hell of a lot cheaper: http://universalcarlifts.com/product_info.php?products_id=63

Either way, I could finally recapture a New England Rallyx RWD championship. Assuming those kits didn't destroy themselves/me before I'd locked down the season.

There are pictures of a really good looking offroad SN95 mustang floating around. He said it took a good amount of work, but it looks amazing and every mustang of that generatoon should be done that way imo.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mustang/comments/2dv39v/my_2003_offroad_rally_mustang_gt/

This one

Elmnt80 fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Jan 1, 2016

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
Ian Murdock (creator of debian) is dead.
Some trouble with the cops and possible suicide.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Jan 1, 2016

shy boy from chess club
Jun 11, 2008

It wasnt that bad, after you left I got to help put out the fire!

Late to the party but Im wicked sorry Tusen Takk. Hug your mom as much as you can right now.

Spent my New Years with my childhood friend who I havent seen in years and it was awesome. We burned stuff, drove the VW around the yard and watched The Thing. Pretty much the same stuff we did as kids but this time we were drunk.

2016 might be ok.

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



Jack Plays Bass posted:

Happy New Year's, fellow Goons!

Since there are a bunch of tech/IT guys in here, and I know none in real life, I've got a question. My girlfriend bought me the Make Raspberry Pi Deluxe Starter Edition and an Arduino Uno/ARDX Starter Kit for Christmas, along with a soldering set. I have NO idea what the gently caress I'm doing with any of this, nor what cool projects I can even make. I have very little actual electrical knowledge, and the last time I tried to code I was 10 years old. I successfully hooked up the Pi and booted for the first time, and made an LED blink on the Arduino, but beyond that I'm lost. Anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do/a guide for getting started on a cool project?

I've been building a home automation setup which runs off a banana pi (it was on a raspi but i upgraded).
I am currently adding a raspi into the setup that is going to sit in my garage and control various things through 12V relays. Its doing some lights in the garden (linked to some PIRs), extracter fans in the garage (based on a temp/humidity sensor), monitoring my solar charger (which keeps various car batteries topped up) and is about to be connected to a solenoid in my airline (so I can leave the compressor tank fully primed and it wont leakdown through my airline), and it will be able to turn the mains supply to the compressor on and off too (which is in my shed next to the garage).
I'm using this as a front end over a wireless dongle.

There are loads of fun things to do with Pi's too that don't involve the I/O. I'm setting up another one with raspple to serve disk images over the network onto an old Apple ][ so that I can play old games easily. There are loads of retro computer/MAME related things you can also do!

I've just been for a 7 mile new year day walk with some mates. Hopefully should start to make up for some of my excessive Christmas cheese and beer consumption if we can keep it up!

keykey
Mar 28, 2003

     

iwentdoodie posted:

watching Peaky Blinders

I've never heard of this so I had to look it up. It reminds me of this: http://youtu.be/Kz-LcBfjRRo

Fo3 posted:

Ian Murdock (creator of debian) is dead.
Some trouble with the cops and possible suicide.

My wife told me this this morning, except she said "the guy who created Linux died." And I was thinking, huh.. With Torvalds dead, maybe his successor will finally do something that Torvalds never did which is make Linux universally accessible as opposed to Torvalds usual gently caress you I want what I want approach. Even though Linux is successful by any underground measure, it is despite itself.. Sadly it was the other guy. RIP other guy. :(

keykey fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jan 1, 2016

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Geirskogul posted:

Except today was a no burn day and I worked a call tonight (just got off) where the cop was charging them with violating the no burn because it ended up as a "fire," technically :cop:

Doesn't seem to have had much effect, the air quality today is somewhere around "Beijing". Still smells like fireworks out at the zoo.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
.

kimbo305 posted:

After seeing this: http://www.fourwheeler.com/features/1504-1990-ford-crown-victoria-trophy-ltd/
I've become obsessed with having a mildly lifted RWD sedan to beat around in (not anything close to the capability of that Crown Vic). Parts of Fury Road that really spoke to me are finally bubbling up from my subconscious.
My thinking was to lift a couple inches and fit on narrower and taller profile tires.

Suggestions for cheap RWD platforms?

I saw this: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5321510945.html
and this: http://universalcarlifts.com/product_info.php?products_id=46

But this'd be a whole hell of a lot cheaper: http://universalcarlifts.com/product_info.php?products_id=63

Either way, I could finally recapture a New England Rallyx RWD championship. Assuming those kits didn't destroy themselves/me before I'd locked down the season.

http://www.clublexus.com/articles/found-craigslist-off-road-ready-lexus-ls400/

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

kimbo305 posted:

After seeing this: http://www.fourwheeler.com/features/1504-1990-ford-crown-victoria-trophy-ltd/
I've become obsessed with having a mildly lifted RWD sedan to beat around in (not anything close to the capability of that Crown Vic). Parts of Fury Road that really spoke to me are finally bubbling up from my subconscious.
My thinking was to lift a couple inches and fit on narrower and taller profile tires.

Suggestions for cheap RWD platforms?

I saw this: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5321510945.html
and this: http://universalcarlifts.com/product_info.php?products_id=46

But this'd be a whole hell of a lot cheaper: http://universalcarlifts.com/product_info.php?products_id=63

Either way, I could finally recapture a New England Rallyx RWD championship. Assuming those kits didn't destroy themselves/me before I'd locked down the season.

In the CL thread there was an older LS400 that kept popping up that had this done and it was awesome, IIRC it was in the Seattle area and we were pleading for somebody in AI to buy it. Maybe someone has a pic of it, it was pretty sweet.

[edit] Beaten, but Found the add, looks like it's still for sale! http://buildraceparty.com/sale-lexus-off-road-sedan/

Well maybe not, the CL link doesn't work anymore :(

Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jan 1, 2016

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



keykey posted:

My wife told me this this morning, except she said "the guy who created Linux died." And I was thinking, huh.. With Torvalds dead, maybe his successor will finally do something that Torvalds never did which is make Linux universally accessible as opposed to Torvalds usual gently caress you I want what I want approach. Even though Linux is successful by any underground measure, it is despite itself.. Sadly it was the other guy. RIP other guy. :(

Linus has very little to do with the user accessibility of Linux, considering that he only does the kernel.

Now, that son of a bitch Lennart Poettering, he's done more to gently caress up Linux than anyone else.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Geirskogul posted:

Except today was a no burn day and I worked a call tonight (just got off) where the cop was charging them with violating the no burn because it ended up as a "fire," technically :cop:

Sometimes cops are dumb. If they were legally setting off fireworks on private property, and had an accidental fire, they had no intent for the fire, so there is no way it would stick if they fought it. Then again I have never bothered to look into that particular law, so I have no idea if it's worth fighting it (other than purely on principle).

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009

Thanks for posting that. I forgot what that model was. There is an old couple who brings there's to my work all the time. It's mint never seen much salt and lives in a heated garage. The V8 in that thing is pretty nice when you stomp the pedal. Overall awesome cars and the pictures of lifted ones look even better.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Elmnt80 posted:

There are pictures of a really good looking offroad SN95 mustang floating around. He said it took a good amount of work, but it looks amazing and every mustang of that generatoon should be done that way imo.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mustang/comments/2dv39v/my_2003_offroad_rally_mustang_gt/

This one

The SN95 platform is awesome for that kind of build, it's a big beefy chassis, with an already high ride-height, subframe works as a bashplate for the engine, I've had a ton of fun thrashing Mustangs off-road, especially with an LSD it's a hoot, sometimes bumpers and whatnot take a little beating, but it's worth it, you also get mud in the inside if it's a convertible and you leave the top down, also get some funny looks.

briefcasefullof
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]
That looks like a blast to drive

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

leica posted:

In the CL thread there was an older LS400 that kept popping up that had this done and it was awesome, IIRC it was in the Seattle area and we were pleading for somebody in AI to buy it. Maybe someone has a pic of it, it was pretty sweet.

[edit] Beaten, but Found the ad, looks like it's still for sale! http://buildraceparty.com/sale-lexus-off-road-sedan/



Nice, that's definitely the right price for having all that work done already.
I PMed the guy, but I doubt he knows where it is by now if it's sold.

Elviscat posted:

The SN95 platform is awesome for that kind of build, it's a big beefy chassis, with an already high ride-height, subframe works as a bashplate for the engine,

I thought the problem was that you couldn't lift the 3-link rear very far before it started canting sideways?

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe

kimbo305 posted:

After seeing this: http://www.fourwheeler.com/features/1504-1990-ford-crown-victoria-trophy-ltd/
I've become obsessed with having a mildly lifted RWD sedan to beat around in (not anything close to the capability of that Crown Vic). Parts of Fury Road that really spoke to me are finally


I want to do this to a old xjs or silver shadow.


last night another paramount bus owner reached out to me. aww yeee big boxbus meet. his is getting an upgraded 855 though. Totally jealous.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

cursedshitbox posted:

I want to do this to a old xjs or silver shadow.

There was a V12 XJS for sale just down the road a couple weeks ago. They wanted $500

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

kimbo305 posted:

Nice, that's definitely the right price for having all that work done already.
I PMed the guy, but I doubt he knows where it is by now if it's sold.

Even if you can't find it, that's the platform i'd use, the LS is built like a brick shithouse and you can find them cheap, just hope you don't ever have to replace the starter :v:

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

leica posted:

Even if you can't find it, that's the platform i'd use, the LS is built like a brick shithouse and you can find them cheap, just hope you don't ever have to replace the starter :v:

There was one in the JY yesterday. I wanted to pull that motor so bad.

Wrar
Sep 9, 2002


Soiled Meat

kimbo305 posted:

Nice, that's definitely the right price for having all that work done already.
I PMed the guy, but I doubt he knows where it is by now if it's sold.


I thought the problem was that you couldn't lift the 3-link rear very far before it started canting sideways?

Mark VIII suspension conversion?

Wrar
Sep 9, 2002


Soiled Meat
Also hello 2016, I hope you continue to be as good as 2015 was to me, but way more AI.

TT I hope your Mom gets better. That's awful :(

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

leica posted:

Even if you can't find it, that's the platform i'd use, the LS is built like a brick shithouse and you can find them cheap, just hope you don't ever have to replace the starter :v:

I wonder if they're amenable to a horrifying set of spacers -- if the suspension path for each corner would be grossly affected or if the wheels are set up to stay at roughly the same camber. Didn't have to think about that with a solid axle.

Wrar posted:

Mark VIII suspension conversion?

Part of what makes the Panther appealing is how commonly available lift kits are for them. I'd consider Mark VIIs and Thunderbirds as well.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

kimbo305 posted:

I wonder if they're amenable to a horrifying set of spacers -- if the suspension path for each corner would be grossly affected or if the wheels are set up to stay at roughly the same camber. Didn't have to think about that with a solid axle.

Well it should be way more adjustable, correct? I mean that guy seemed to have lots of wheel travel without a ton of lift, I'd rather go for that option personally, unless you're going for the lifted look as well.

But yeah in terms of parts cost and availability a Panther is probably your best bet.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
TT: Dude I am so sorry.

Super Aggro Crag
Apr 23, 2008




And, of course as always, kill Hitler.


Sorry to hear that TT. Best wishes.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

leica posted:

Well it should be way more adjustable, correct? I mean that guy seemed to have lots of wheel travel without a ton of lift, I'd rather go for that option personally, unless you're going for the lifted look as well.

I assumed the offroad LS400 had custom suspension elements. Stock, probably only one or the other wishbone would have a cam bolt for camber, right?

Called the $4k Charger Interceptor guy, and it's still available. I didn't even know the Interceptor package was a V8. That's less than $11/hp, which really speaks to me.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


kimbo305 posted:

After seeing this: http://www.fourwheeler.com/features/1504-1990-ford-crown-victoria-trophy-ltd/
I've become obsessed with having a mildly lifted RWD sedan to beat around in (not anything close to the capability of that Crown Vic). Parts of Fury Road that really spoke to me are finally bubbling up from my subconscious.
My thinking was to lift a couple inches and fit on narrower and taller profile tires.

Suggestions for cheap RWD platforms?

I saw this: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5321510945.html
and this: http://universalcarlifts.com/product_info.php?products_id=46

But this'd be a whole hell of a lot cheaper: http://universalcarlifts.com/product_info.php?products_id=63

Either way, I could finally recapture a New England Rallyx RWD championship. Assuming those kits didn't destroy themselves/me before I'd locked down the season.

I've been wanting to do this for some time, and the limiting factor for the size of tire always seems to be the proximity of the rear tire to the structural portion of the door. I haven't really seen any modern sedans that would allow a larger tire without serious surgery or lifting the body well over the tires, which at that point you might as well just stick it on a blazer chassis.

That's what led me to the jag coupes because of the amount of space in front of the rear and behind the front wheels for fender clearance.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

keykey posted:

My wife told me this this morning, except she said "the guy who created Linux died." And I was thinking, huh.. With Torvalds dead, maybe his successor will finally do something that Torvalds never did which is make Linux universally accessible as opposed to Torvalds usual gently caress you I want what I want approach. Even though Linux is successful by any underground measure, it is despite itself.. Sadly it was the other guy. RIP other guy. :(


Excuse me? Linux is extremely widely used (Half the phones of the world now use it FFS) and Linus is very open to ideas - as long as they work. What he isnt open to and has no problem telling em straight is loving idiots. Awwww so poor idiots dont like getting told ot gently caress off. He has never told anyone to go gently caress themselves with a sawall that didnt deserve it - and alomst always it's something that would have broken the kernel when he goes on one of his epic rants.

He's a straight shooter and says what he thinks. That's probably why Linux continues to work rather than the revolting poo poo others continue to spew onto the IT industry.

If you really want to see what prevents Linux being a bigger presence in desktop / laptop spheres, it's more utter unusable UX fuckups like Gnome and Unity. And now that appalling Pottering crap like systemd is infesting servers. Debian is being utterly hosed over by SJW type drooling retards, Firefox is a flaming ball of poo poo andthe list of formerly successful Linux / open source projects hosed up when they were poised to rule goes on. And yet Linus has kept the kernel going, focusing on what he needs to focus on while keeping the idiots out.

Frankly should be more like him. Someone who doesnt suffer fools gets poo poo done.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Excuse me? Linux is extremely widely used (Half the phones of the world now use it FFS) and Linus is very open to ideas - as long as they work. What he isnt open to and has no problem telling em straight is loving idiots. Awwww so poor idiots dont like getting told ot gently caress off. He has never told anyone to go gently caress themselves with a sawall that didnt deserve it - and alomst always it's something that would have broken the kernel when he goes on one of his epic rants.

He's a straight shooter and says what he thinks. That's probably why Linux continues to work rather than the revolting poo poo others continue to spew onto the IT industry.

If you really want to see what prevents Linux being a bigger presence in desktop / laptop spheres, it's more utter unusable UX fuckups like Gnome and Unity. And now that appalling Pottering crap like systemd is infesting servers. Debian is being utterly hosed over by SJW type drooling retards, Firefox is a flaming ball of poo poo andthe list of formerly successful Linux / open source projects hosed up when they were poised to rule goes on. And yet Linus has kept the kernel going, focusing on what he needs to focus on while keeping the idiots out.

Frankly should be more like him. Someone who doesnt suffer fools gets poo poo done.

This. Linux is actually even more accepted today than it was in the 90s, powers nearly everything, even Microsoft is striving to increase their compatibility with Linux, especially in the datacenter.

And Torvalds does not take poo poo. He will gut you publicly, but then he'll propose the solution. He hasn't gotten as far as he has without calling people out on obvious poo poo.

keykey
Mar 28, 2003

     

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

If you really want to see what prevents Linux being a bigger presence in desktop / laptop spheres, it's more utter unusable UX fuckups like Gnome and Unity. And now that appalling Pottering crap like systemd is infesting servers. Debian is being utterly hosed over by SJW type drooling retards, Firefox is a flaming ball of poo poo andthe list of formerly successful Linux / open source projects hosed up when they were poised to rule goes on. And yet Linus has kept the kernel going, focusing on what he needs to focus on while keeping the idiots out.

I didn't mean to ruffle absolute nerd feathers as even I use it for back end stuff. I meant, for the majority of the world, ie end users, not niche nerd poo poo like we do. But I completely agree with that paragraph right there.

keykey fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jan 1, 2016

Gingerbread House Music
Dec 1, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

keykey posted:

I didn't mean to ruffle absolute nerd feathers as even I use it for back end stuff. I meant, for the majority of the world, ie end users, not niche nerd poo poo like we do. But I completely agree with that paragraph right there.

OOOOOOH, HE SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE INTERPRETED AS BEING UNKIND TO LINUX. I'M GONNA POST SUCH ANGRY THINGS TO SLASHDOT!

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Ozmiander posted:

OOOOOOH, HE SAID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE INTERPRETED AS BEING UNKIND TO LINUX. I'M GONNA POST SUCH ANGRY THINGS TO SLASHDOT!

quote:

What set Torvalds off was a bit of networking code he discovered in Linux version 4.3.
"Christ people. This is just sh*t.," Torvalds begins. "The conflict I get is due to stupid new gcc header file crap. But what makes me upset is that the crap is for completely bogus reasons."
Torvalds gets angrier as the posts goes on, as if typing out his frustration is having the opposite effect of being therapeutic. Check out this snippet:
This is the old code in net/ipv6/ip6_output.c:
mtu -= hlen + sizeof(struct frag_hdr);
and this is the new "improved" code that uses fancy stuff that wants
magical built-in compiler support and has silly wrapper functions for
when it doesn't exist:
if (overflow_usub(mtu, hlen + sizeof(struct frag_hdr), &mtu) ||
mtu <= 7)
goto fail_toobig;
and anybody who thinks that the above is
(a) legible
(b) efficient (even with the magical compiler support)
(c) particularly safe
is just incompetent and out to lunch.
The above code is sh*t, and it generates poo poo code. It looks bad, and
there's no reason for it.
And that's not even the worst of his tirade. Torvalds goes on to call the code in question "idiotic" and "compiler-masturbation." Save for the adult entertainment industry, there aren't many instances where it's good to have your work compared to self love making.

quote:

Here is what Mauro said :

Are you saying that pulseaudio is entering on some weird loop if the > returned value is not -EINVAL? That seems a bug at pulseaudio.

To this, Linus responded furiously in the same mailing list :

Mauro, SHUT THE F@#$ UP!

It's a bug alright - in the kernel. How long have you been a maintainer? And you *still* haven't learnt the first rule of kernel maintenance?

If a change results in user programs breaking, it's a bug in the kernel. We never EVER blame the user programs. How hard can this be to
understand?

He did not stop at this and went on to say that the patch introduced was crap :

To make matters worse, commit f0ed2ce840b3 is clearly total and utter CRAP even if it didn't break applications.

Linus was in no mood to let the issue go, he questioned the competency of Mauro in this issue and took the ownership of applying the patch. He said :

Shut up, Mauro. And I don't _ever_ want to hear that kind of obvious garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again. Seriously.
...
you've shown yourself to not be competent in this issue, so I'll apply it directly and immediately myself.

Later even towards the end of the e-mail, Linus did not seem to calm down but explained the reason for his anger. He said :

WE DO NOT BREAK USERSPACE!

Seriously. How hard is this rule to understand? We particularly don't break user space with TOTAL CRAP. I'm angry, because your whole email
was so _horribly_ wrong, and the patch that broke things was so obviously crap. The whole patch is incredibly broken poo poo.

He ended the e-mail with a couple of suggestions in his angry tone. He said :

Fix your f*cking "compliance tool", because it is obviously broken. And fix your approach to kernel programming.

Reading all this, Mauro did not have much words to defend himself. All he said was :

I'm doing my best rejecting patches that could potentially break userspace in advance.

Sometimes poo poo happens. Sorry for that.

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jan 1, 2016

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

keykey posted:

I didn't mean to ruffle absolute nerd feathers as even I use it for back end stuff. I meant, for the majority of the world, ie end users, not niche nerd poo poo like we do. But I completely agree with that paragraph right there.

As I said even the end user part is wrong now - Linux is the kernel that powers Android. Sure it's wildly different to other distributions but at the heart, Android is Linux.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




I find his attitude refreshing, but then I am in the BOFH business.

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Liquid Communism posted:

I find his attitude refreshing, but then I am in the BOFH business.

Torvalds is an awesome fellow, but he demands a certain level of competence and he will call you out if you fail to meet it.

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