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Sorus
Nov 6, 2007
caustic overtones

Fried Chicken posted:

O'Malley failed to make the Ohio ballot, so he's done

Aw. So close.

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OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

Sword of Chomsky posted:



The Carson wave has come and gone, it looks like the Cruz wave is next. Definitely shows Trump as the default choice in most districts.

And that, I think, was the handle—that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Rich and Establishment. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn’t need that. Our Carson would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting—on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave...
So now, less than five weeks later, you can go up on a steep hill in Chattanooga and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark—that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Fried Chicken posted:

O'Malley failed to make the Ohio ballot, so he's done

Ohio is two weeks after Super Tuesday. O'Malley failing to make the ballot doesn't really matter. Clinton could fail to make the ballot and she wouldn't worry.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
When you're polling at a rounding error, a well placed fart would probably knock you out of the race.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Voter turnout was abysmal. Like I said maybe next time people will get off their couches and vote since (shocker) elections matter.

To be fair, I'm not sure the blame lies entirely (or even mostly) on the populace this time. Jack Conway's ground game was horrible. I got maybe one person knocking on my door in a democratic stronghold (Louisville). The exact same thing happened with Grimes, but at least she was visible in the public eye, even if it was for the wrong reasons.

Toss on top of that that the elections were practically drat hidden and on a weird date in the first place, and you get the turnout you did. Hell, I wouldn't have even known about when the election was if I didn't follow D&D. It really was the perfect storm of poo poo but the result is exactly what you'd expect.

I've said it before, but Kentucky is a post apocalyptic wasteland outside of Louisville and Lexington. It's bad enough these days that my wife and I are considering moving... to Texas.

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

In Kentucky, it seems like either the population is going to dive into unneccesary suffering or the federal government will pick up the slack. For a state like Mississippi or New Mexico, it makes some sense to have a high level of federal dependence; if Kentucky is banking heavily on federal grants for its citizens to not suffer and die, and it "works", then why wouldn't states like Arizona or Georgia follow?

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

toanoradian posted:

Seconding the need for good media sources to consume.

I have two questions, both regarding Obama:

1) There are some who claimed that "the Obamas had no personal controversy", which I took to mean that in the family of Obama there's no 'sketchy' stuff like love affairs or driving without license or accidental weed consumption or full-blown socialist rituals or something. And that this personal cleanliness kind of annoys people who wanted delicious gossip on Obama. This isn't special to the Obamas, though, right? Was there any family controversy during GWB's presidency?

2) Will we get more Obama zingers in 2016 now that apparently he stopped giving a gently caress?

It's also the lack of gross business ties. There's no Halliburton-style conflicts of interest that have arisen.

Also as for media sources, I put together a long OP for a periodicals thread a little while ago. It's been pretty dormant, but I'll be making an effort post some time this weekend with some updates.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

What worries me the most about Kentucky is that Bevin is the kind of insane rear end in a top hat to go the Kansas/Wisconsin route and this state is in worse shape than those two were at the start.

People in rural places also voted for him because "He is a businessman and will bring jobs to our meth riddled shithole county"

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Who wants Islamophobia?

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/rhode-island-man-blames-911-after-hes-arrested-for-drunkenly-screaming-death-threats-at-random-muslim-man/

A guy in Rhode Island got really drunk, walked into a convenience store and started screaming at the Muslim clerk about how we don't want Muslims here and that he's gonna kill all the Muslims. When asked why he did it, he said it was because of 9/11.

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Luigi Thirty posted:

Who wants Islamophobia?

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/rhode-island-man-blames-911-after-hes-arrested-for-drunkenly-screaming-death-threats-at-random-muslim-man/

A guy in Rhode Island got really drunk, walked into a convenience store and started screaming at the Muslim clerk about how we don't want Muslims here and that he's gonna kill all the Muslims. When asked why he did it, he said it was because of 9/11.
That dude will never have to pay for drinks again as long as he goes to the "right" bars.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

toanoradian posted:


1) There are some who claimed that "the Obamas had no personal controversy", which I took to mean that in the family of Obama there's no 'sketchy' stuff like love affairs or driving without license or accidental weed consumption or full-blown socialist rituals or something. And that this personal cleanliness kind of annoys people who wanted delicious gossip on Obama. This isn't special to the Obamas, though, right? Was there any family controversy during GWB's presidency?


Aside from everything else, Bush is the scion of a long standing political family so the greater family has plenty of shady controversial poo poo going on.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:

In Kentucky, it seems like either the population is going to dive into unneccesary suffering or the federal government will pick up the slack. For a state like Mississippi or New Mexico, it makes some sense to have a high level of federal dependence; if Kentucky is banking heavily on federal grants for its citizens to not suffer and die, and it "works", then why wouldn't states like Arizona or Georgia follow?

I'd be on unnecessary suffering, tbqh. What will is there in Congress to bail out another state, especially when that state is engaged in a grand experiment of job creation policy implementation?

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


toanoradian posted:


2) Will we get more Obama zingers in 2016 now that apparently he stopped giving a gently caress?

this is buzzfeed level stuff, ugh

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
https://twitter.com/CarlyFiorina/status/682999832189911040

Sorry Notre Dame, guess you should've been in a swing state. :(

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



computer parts posted:

https://twitter.com/CarlyFiorina/status/682999832189911040

Sorry Notre Dame, guess you should've been in a swing state. :(

I don't get it, Notre Dame isn't even playing Iowa. Why pick and choose between them at all?

Celery Jello
Mar 21, 2005
Slippery Tilde

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

this is buzzfeed level stuff, ugh

nah, this is buzzfeed level stuff.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

computer parts posted:

https://twitter.com/CarlyFiorina/status/682999832189911040

Sorry Notre Dame, guess you should've been in a swing state. :(

Hahahahahaha. Wow. What an idiot.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
POSTERS LOCAL 42069




Clapping Larry

Luigi Thirty posted:

Who wants Islamophobia?

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/rhode-island-man-blames-911-after-hes-arrested-for-drunkenly-screaming-death-threats-at-random-muslim-man/

A guy in Rhode Island got really drunk, walked into a convenience store and started screaming at the Muslim clerk about how we don't want Muslims here and that he's gonna kill all the Muslims. When asked why he did it, he said it was because of 9/11.

Coincidentally I had NYE dinner with the guy who owned Windows on the World and who luckily wasn't there the day 79 of his friends and employees died in horrible agony and he took a very pointed moment to excoriate a fellow dinner guest for suggesting that maybe Trump's poo poo re: Muslims is appropriate at all.

Seriously there is a very small community of people in the USA who, in any legitimate way, can say "because 9/11" and this guy is one of them. And yet he's still not a horrible piece of human garbage. go figure!

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Mo0 posted:

nah, this is buzzfeed level stuff.

Because Bernie Sanders wasn't already the Ron Paul of this elect. :psyduck:

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

computer parts posted:

https://twitter.com/CarlyFiorina/status/682999832189911040

Sorry Notre Dame, guess you should've been in a swing state. :(

Slightly off-topic but it's still mind-boggling to me that Indiana went for Obama in 2008.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

GalacticAcid posted:

Slightly off-topic but it's still mind-boggling to me that Indiana went for Obama in 2008.

Why wouldn't they? Now they get to export their corn and cuisine to Cuba; while many in Indiana are against Obama after it became fashionable, they are more than willing to make money off his administration's policies.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



GalacticAcid posted:

Slightly off-topic but it's still mind-boggling to me that Indiana went for Obama in 2008.

The right kind of Dem can take Indiana easy, though it becomes harder every year as Pence chases off the young

My Imaginary GF posted:

Why wouldn't they? Now they get to export their corn and cuisine to Cuba; while many in Indiana are against Obama after it became fashionable, they are more than willing to make money off his administration's policies.

Lol if you think our corn/soy doesn't just go straight to big processing plants in Lafayette where it's turned into a million consumer goods. Exporting food is what we make poor countries do

We're just like Iowa except we have TWO whole crops that we grow, and our evangelicals are ignored by the wider world because they failed to get RFRA rammed through and our primary is super late

edit - you're spot on about the hypocrisy tho

Epic High Five fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jan 1, 2016

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Let's be honest: America is a garbage-tier country

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Epic High Five posted:

The right kind of Dem can take Indiana easy, though it becomes harder every year as Pence chases off the young


Lol if you think our corn/soy doesn't just go straight to big processing plants in Lafayette where it's turned into a million consumer goods. Exporting food is what we make poor countries do

We're just like Iowa except we have TWO whole crops that we grow, and our evangelicals are ignored by the wider world because they failed to get RFRA rammed through and our primary is super late

edit - you're spot on about the hypocrisy tho

Some folk think Indiana is a leading producer of corn and soybeans. What they tend to forget is that Illinois is #1.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

My Imaginary GF posted:

Some folk think Indiana is a leading producer of corn and soybeans. What they tend to forget is that Illinois is #1.

Speaking of Illinois, recently released emails show Rahm's office coordinating with the "Independent" Police Review Authority with respect to the Laquan Macdonald case and managing the press.

Via The Associated Press

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

GalacticAcid posted:

Speaking of Illinois, recently released emails show Rahm's office coordinating with the "Independent" Police Review Authority with respect to the Laquan Macdonald case and managing the press.

Via The Associated Press

Unlike Hillary Clinton, Rahm Emanuel is an honorable man who believes in the use of public email servers, and who does not have his staff delete records of his conversations.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Let's be honest: America is a garbage-tier country

We're at least like 90th percentile.

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

by Hand Knit
Pillbug
Remember how excited people were for Rahm in the WH staff? Lol.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

But Rocks Hurt Head posted:

Remember how excited people were for Rahm in the WH staff? Lol.

Actually no, I don't. Were they?

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Yeah the consensus was like "hell yeah Rahm doesn't give a gently caress and gets things DONE" because sometimes he makes swear words.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

But Rocks Hurt Head posted:

Remember how excited people were for Rahm in the WH staff? Lol.

No he was easily the worst piece of poo poo to ride Obama's coat tails. I hope he's recalled and his family banned from Chicago.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Nonsense posted:

No he was easily the worst piece of poo poo to ride Obama's coat tails. I hope he's recalled and his family banned from Chicago.

Rahm rode Obama's coattails? That's loving nonsense, you idiot. Rahm begged Axelrod not to pick him for CoS; he went out of loyalty to the office of the President, you ingrateful rear end in a top hat.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

My Imaginary GF posted:

Rahm rode Obama's coattails? That's loving nonsense, you idiot. Rahm begged Axelrod not to pick him for CoS; he went out of loyalty to the office of the President, you ingrateful rear end in a top hat.

Nope, you are wrong, and hopefully you too will meet the same fate as Rahm, again.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Nonsense posted:

Nope, you are wrong, and hopefully you too will meet the same fate as Rahm, again.

How am I wrong? What I said comes from Axelrod's latest book tour, while he was pimping it on CSPAN 2's BookTV

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Who thought it was a good idea to talk about Rahm? You know by now the USPol natives get...restless...when anyone says that name. It's like saying candyman to a mirror.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

SumYungGui posted:

Who thought it was a good idea to talk about Rahm? You know by now the USPol natives get...restless...when anyone says that name. It's like saying candyman to a mirror.

You know what Obama's greatest mistake was early in his administration? It wasn't asking Rahm to be his CoS, a position thay Rahm begged Axelrod not to ask him to take, it was refusing to let Valerie Jarrett run for Senate. Instead, Obama chose to lose a Senate seat and his CoS, while keeping a friend who is never willing to gently caress him over even when he's wrong on an issue.

ps nonsence, just to prove you're a motherfucking idiot who hasn't even read Believer

Nonsense posted:

Nope, you are wrong, and hopefully you too will meet the same fate as Rahm, again.

Nope, you're wrong, you ignorameous who has never had any clout nor connections worth a drat.

quote:

When President-elect Obama tells Axelrod that he’s thinking about Rahm for chief of staff, he tasks Axelrod with feeling Rahm out. “gently caress no,” Rahm screams into the phone. “Absolutely not. I’m not loving doing this David. Tell him not to call.”

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/Felsenthal-Files/February-2015/David-Axelrod-Book/

Its like folk want to blame Rahm for Obama's mistakes! Who knew that liberals would find it so much easier to blame a Jewish mayor than accept that an African-American President with a lack of executive experience has made poor management choices during his tenure of office?

BetterToRuleInHell
Jul 2, 2007

Touch my mask top
Get the chop chop

Nonsense posted:

No he was easily the worst piece of poo poo to ride Obama's coat tails. I hope he's recalled and his family banned from Chicago.

Rahm was USPol's favorite bad boy back in the early Obama administration. Remember when he sent that reporter a fish wrapped in newspaper? Oh man he doesn't take any poo poo! That means Obama doesn't either and it makes him cool!

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

As much as he might fight it, Chief of Staff will be the high point in Rahm Emanuel's career.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

My Imaginary GF posted:

Nope, you're wrong, you ignorameous who has never had any clout nor connections worth a drat.

This is definitely half a thumbs up!

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My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

Rahm was USPol's favorite bad boy back in the early Obama administration. Remember when he sent that reporter a fish wrapped in newspaper? Oh man he doesn't take any poo poo! That means Obama doesn't either and it makes him cool!

Unfortunately for America, Obama would rather have friends advising him than he would ruthless individuals able to work Congress.

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