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Dec 10, 2011

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Brown Moses posted:

Good start to the year though, 10 hours past and no horrific terrorist acts.

They were planned in Belgium and Germany.

Meanwhile, down in the jungle:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/29/deluge-farmers-flood-grouse-moor-drain-land

The Guardian posted:

In 2002 Walshaw Moor, a 6,500-acre grouse shooting estate upstream of Hebden Bridge, was bought by the retail tycoon Richard Bannister. Satellite images before and after show a transformation of the land: a great intensification of burning and draining. These activities raise the number of grouse, which in turns raises the amount (running into thousands per person per day) people will pay to shoot them.

In 2011, the government body Natural England launched a prosecution of the estate, citing “illegal works” on the moor. The estate was charged with 45 offences, 30 of which involved building allegedly unauthorised drainage channels. It denied all criminal activity. In 2012, as Mark Avery documents in his book Inglorious, something very odd happened. After £1m had been spent on the case it was suddenly dropped. Instead, Natural England struck an agreement with the estate under which the owner of Walshaw Moor would be given £2.5m of public money, in the form of a special package of enhanced farm subsidies, to carry on more or less as before, without reversing what were alleged to have been illegal works.

Avery’s freedom of information requests seeking to discover why this astonishing reversal took place have been repeatedly blocked, so there is no definitive explanation. But we know that the minister responsible at the time, Richard Benyon, is himself a grouse moor owner, and was lobbied over this period by the Moorland Association, which represents other grouse moor owners. We have no way of knowing whether these facts are related, and I cannot make a direct connection between the management of Walshaw Moor and the present flooding of Hebden Bridge. But there’s little doubt that the management of grouse moors tends to increase the risk of flooding.

Though grouse moors stretch the definition of agricultural land to breaking point, they remain eligible for public money in the form of farm subsidies. In 2014 as essential public services were hacked back, the government quietly increased the money to which they are entitled by 84%. Maximising the number of grouse means treating the moors as if they were giant chicken runs, draining the land, eradicating predators and competitors and burning the heather to stimulate the young shoots on which grouse feed. If the proles downstream are flooded out of their homes, really, who cares?

In other words: the current round of flooding was made as bad as it was because not only did the Tories cut money from flood defences, they gave that money to their rich mates to make it worse.

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Dec 10, 2011

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blowfish posted:

Trickle down grouseonomics.

It was a bit more than a trickle, I think you'll find.

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Right, so he's openly stating that he plans to remove 50 MPs from other parties while leaving Tory constituencies untouched.

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marktheando posted:

Can you imagine Cameron in a beer hall?

The Winebar Republic.

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Meanwhile, Heat magazine suggests an alternative method of dealing with the Tories that is much more progressive than crude violence.

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Dabir posted:

*cuts heads off a hydra for decades*

I agree, the problem is we're not fighting the hydra hard enough.

Perhaps not the best metaphor to use for the Saudis this week.

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Gives a whole new meaning to "The Kirghiz government can eat a bag of dicks", doesn't it?

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Gonzo McFee posted:

Half your age plus seven proves to be the golden rule again.

In the case of Tories, the two halves of the sum belong to separate people.

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Spangly A posted:

most people get fired for this

a male teacher, carer or other position of authority in this context gets their career ruined

Simon expects to walk.

He'll walk with his career in ruins, though. He's almost certain to be told to resign from the Labour Party, and is certain to be kicked out if he refuses. He will not be re-elected and all the usual doors that open up for an outgoing MP will be closed to him because he's completely toxic. After that he'll just be a guy trying to get a job when the entire country knows he had a professional relationship with an underage sex worker. The only difference between Danczuk and that teacher or carer is a delayed drop.

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Fans posted:

Sure "I'd quite like to gently caress you" is an appropriate response to some questions, but not usually questions about your Cricket batting style.

It's important to know which team someone comes to bat for before you ask them out.

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Gonzo McFee posted:

Honestly don't know why I expected any better from Labour.

Ah well, back to the SNP and praying for a quick death.

You won't get a quick death under the SNP. They want it slow, lingering and above all visible, so they can blame the English.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Coohoolin posted:

Hey Oberleutnant I was farting around with my recorder thingy and I recorded something just for you

https://soundcloud.com/elijah-fynmore/the-internationale-demo-1

I also attempted a Gaughan tune, and here's my Billy Bragg cover I posted yesterday in case anyone missed it that was interested in my stuff.

https://soundcloud.com/elijah-fynmore/no-gods-and-precious-few-heroes-demo-1

https://soundcloud.com/elijah-fynmore/between-the-wars-demo-1

Do you know how to tell the difference between a folk singer and the audience?

The folk singer only has a finger stuck in one ear.

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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:

PS Please do Viva La Quinta Brigada

Isn't that a Ricky Martin song?

Also I've met Coohoolin and he's picking really flattering photos there, so pick up your trousers.

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thespaceinvader posted:

Am I the only one who saw (the BBC's version of) this article and thought 'I don't know what cocktail Osborne's been taking, but it's sure as poo poo not 'threats to the economy''.

I don't know. One part upper class entitlement, one part cocaine - next thing you know you're standing up telling the entire room how you'd fix the economy if you were in charge. In Osborne's case the room just happens to be the Commons chamber.

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Chocolate Teapot posted:

The United Kingdom of England and Saudi Arabia, circa 2019

We'll still have the Queen's head on the bank notes. Just not the rest of her.

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Dec 10, 2011

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forkboy84 posted:

I think it's completely believable that a coup could happen, I think Haines belief that it needs to happen is completely baffling. The PLP forcing out Corbyn this quickly into his term will not just ensure Labour lose in 2020, but in 2025 also. Because the party will shed members like they joined, it'll lose people who would happily campaign for it, & it risks either a growth in support for the Greens or a new party of the left which could get a decent amount of support, just enough to split the Labour vote but not enough to win many (if any) seats.

I think that anyone could say "The 231 members of the PLP represent Labour in this country, not the 423,000 Labour Party members" in all seriousness and still be considered a credible political commentator, let alone a "great mind", is completely baffling.

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Angepain posted:

That's good then, I can think of a few people whose homes I could make a good case for demolishing

330, to be exact.

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thespaceinvader posted:

lol, they'd just all go live in their second and third ones.

Angepain did say "homes" plural, you know.

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Spangly A posted:

You are now arguing that it is better we let 6 million people die than deal with the integration issues, to whit an increase in violence in Europe, and that is not a moral argument.

I can think of a group of people who thought it was better that six million people died than deal with the integration issues. Luckily Germans don't think that way any more. Unfortunately, we're not all German.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

Marx traditionally thought that sex workers were unlikely to ever achieve class consciousness and would be useless for the socialist cause

Weird. They're pretty much the definition of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". They also seize the means of reproduction.

E: 11th January 1946 - Enver Hoxha founds the People's Republic of Albania.

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dispatch_async posted:

On the subject of immigrants being exploited by the capitalist class:

http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2016/jan/11/uk-increasing-abuse-foreign-maids-tied-visas


We're letting wealthy Saudis keep slaves in the UK. Is this what people thought they were voting for when they voted Lib Dem in 2010?

No wonder Cameron accepted the Order of King Abdulaziz from the Saudis. No wonder they offered it.

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Fans posted:

That's because he plans to outlive them all.

He's already got the NHS for one. What does he plan to get to kill in trade for the others?


Renfield posted:

You can change supplier for electric and gas, but not for water.

I'm in the middle of setting up a supplier change for water at work.

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Dec 10, 2011

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hookerbot 5000 posted:

From his best role...."By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Worvan, you shall be avenged."

They were talking about a sequel not too long ago. :(

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StoicFnord posted:

A medical condition is not a behavior. That's the point. If i have to have diabetes treatment, my partner should have the right to say "No, you can't, cause i'm your legal partner".

Untreated diabetes is fatal, so no they loving shouldn't.

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Coohoolin posted:

Good thing Scotland's got 25% of European renewable potential then! Also it looks like the SNP might meet its super ambitious target after all, half of Scotland's electricity comes from renewable sources and we might get to 100% before 2020.

Not a chance, I'm afraid. Even the 50% has only been achieved by cooking the books a bit.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Coohoolin posted:

Who's on it tonight?

Four shitheads and Cat Smith. The list is a couple of ten or twelve pages back.

E: Bloody derails.

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Dec 10, 2011

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If you're going to suggest a Kinks song for the national anthem, it's Village Green Preservation Society or nothing.

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Oberleutnant posted:

*steps up to mic*

*clears throat*

gently caress Israel

*drops mic*

What have they done this time?

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Dec 10, 2011

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Cerv posted:

Someone at Sports Direct must be thinking "what can we do to distract from the bad publicity about our work conditions".
http://www.sportsdirect.com/official-burzum-t-shirt-mens-596577

By selling t-shirts advertising a neo-Nazi church burner who spent decades imprisoned for murder? Call me old fashioned if you will, but I'd rather take stick over employing people on zero hour contracts.

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Guavanaut posted:

Kick out the fash (rah rah rah).

The problem with that is it's the same position the fascists take. I thought we already agreed the left aren't going to win by becoming indistinguishable from the right.

E: who cares if there's more snow on the way, it's only going to go up Gideon's nostrils.

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marktheando posted:

:scotland:

I wish we were in the good timeline, where we as a nation didn't bottle it, we would be almost out of this awful country by now.

Feel free to travel to that other timeline, where in the last 12 months Free Scotland's GDP has shrunk by 10% and over 50,000 people have been made redundant.

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Either that article is bullshit, or Christian Allard is not eligible to be an MSP. If he were, he couldn't be excluded on the basis of the general election franchise because one of the requirements to stand in UK elections is that you're able to vote in them.

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big scary monsters posted:

Not the case, EU citizens resident in Scotland are eligible to vote in the Scottish Parliamentary elections, just like they are eligible to vote in local elections. It's only the GE as far as I know that requires British/Commonwealth citizenship.

Can you find me a cite on that? I checked the regs on this before posting and if the voting franchise is a devolved issue, they failed to mention it.

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Desiderata posted:

Canal street has it's name for a reason,

Obligatory antique Manchester joke: because whenever you walk down it, you C anal. :downsrim:

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OvineYeast posted:

I was thinking of spoiling my ballot for the EU referendum, but I'm split between a big grandiose slogan like FOR A SOVIET EUROPE or possibly just the traditional spunking cock. Thoughts?

I have it on good authority that spunking cocks will be counted as votes to leave, on the basis that a) you're obviously very excited by the thought of a referendum to leave the EU and b) you're a loving idiot.

Really, though, if you're not sure what to vote, you should look at what Ian Duncan Smith wants and vote for the precise opposite.

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forkboy84 posted:

I don't think hitting MPs with a brick is very appropriate. Even Tories.

The Tories are only complaining about being abused and killed because they don't like being treated like children.

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Coohoolin posted:

well you see a soup kitchen is a free supply and we all know demand always increases along with supply, and if it's free the demand will be INFINITE

that's why i spend every spare moment i have sitting outside the council offices using their free wifi

Wifi in council offices is password protected. They're wise to the likes of you, you immigrant scrounger.

E: 24th January 41 AD - Rome wins the heart of the UKMT by assassinating a sadistic insane despot known for his ridiculous and draconian laws and replacing him with a surprise moderate candidate.

(Also 24th January 1965: Death of Winston Churchill.)

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Fifteen minutes later, they all went down to the Light of Bengal for a curry.

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Pork Pie Hat posted:

One of the big, brave fash attacked a busker and his muslamic saxomaphone.

You don't have to be a fascist to want to beat up saxophonists.

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JFairfax posted:

Chicks who play woodwind give the best head

I agree. Not only do you get your dick sucked, they have to stop playing their saxophone.

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