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FYI to post in the thread, you need to recite the Porcine Creed to demonstrate your Correctness.
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May 22, 2024 14:46
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For me, it's mainly that she's a fat gobshite with an annoying voice.
Thought that was Churchill
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Jan 7, 2016 17:33
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I think she's not as persuasive and overall competent as other politicians, but that's not a particularly huge deal. No politician is perfect so let's not kid ourselves into thinking that the level of opprobrium and ridicule directed at Diane Abbott isn't because she's a black woman
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Jan 7, 2016 19:16
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Yeah it'd be apples surely.
Socialist on the outside, white nationalist on the inside?
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Jan 10, 2016 13:29
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- Jrbg
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2016 can loving do one, this is getting really personal.
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Jan 11, 2016 11:23
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- Jrbg
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Why do people think I'm racist and stupid? They must be really wrong!
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Jan 11, 2016 14:12
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- Jrbg
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gently caress. I can't believe they tricked me into helping feed those hungry people by hiding this from me >(
Now I think they should possibly do some kind of background check before letting the dreaded papist in the country, yet those drat anarchists call me some backwater soft-nose! Well I never.
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Jan 12, 2016 00:29
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Evening thread, have some cheery news about the UK in 2016:
21-year-old Northern Irish woman to stand trial for 'attempting abortion'
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A Northern Irish woman is to stand trial accused of attempting to bring about an abortion, it has been reported.
A 21-year-old woman from County Down, who cannot be named for legal reasons, faces two charges; one of attempting to terminate her own pregnancy and one of aiding someone else to "miscarry", The Irish Times reports.
The offences are alleged to have taken place during June and July 2014.
The woman appeared at Belfast Magistrates’ Court yesterday for a preliminary enquiry.
The judge confirmed that she has a case to answer and released the defendant on bail.
Unlike the rest of the United Kingdom, abortion is illegal in Northern Ireland unless a woman’s life is in imminent danger.
Under the Offences Against the Person Act 1861, the defendant stands accused of “unlawfully administering to herself noxious substances, namely the drugs Mifepristone and Misoprostol, with the intent to procure miscarriage” and to a second party.
On 30 November 2015, Belfast High Court ruled that the abortion ban was “incompatible with human rights”. However the devolved parliament Stormont has so far declined to amend the law.
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Jan 12, 2016 23:18
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- May 20, 2014
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Re: university chat - http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/these-are-the-countries-where-its-most-expensive-to-go-to-university--Z1vbqNIU2e
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The below chart from Statista shows that England is the most expensive country in the world in which to study, as found by an OECD report in 2015.
The Education at a Glance 2015 report found that England was more expensive for students studying in their home country in the 2013/14 year, ahead of the US, Japan, South Korea and Canada.
There is a slight caveat in that the OECD report highlights that while the data broadly refers to public institutions, in England institutions are not public, but rather government-dependent private institutions.
^^^ also Jesus Christ.
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Jan 14, 2016 12:20
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- Jrbg
- May 20, 2014
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UKMT, I have a very vague question that I think goons here might know the answer to.
Who's that British documentary guy who makes slightly pretentious documentaries about perceived broad global trends in politics, economics, and society? His documentaries, none of which I can remember the names of, have a pretty distinctive style including often using certain phrases in all of them- I cannot remember exactly but I think its things like "but we were wrong", "it wasn't to be", etcetera. Some of his work was posted in this thread a few months ago and the general consensus was "he has some good points, but his style is annoying and he tries too hard to fit things into a single narrative".
Again, sorry for the vagueness.
Adam Curtis.
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Jan 15, 2016 08:20
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- Jrbg
- May 20, 2014
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I was joking when I said I hope the economy burns down. I'm not really looking forward to the possibility of Austerity 2: Austerity Harder and watching the Tories get away with blaming the last Labour government for it again.
The real question is whether they would finally stop trying to push the "threat to your economic security etc" line.
I dunno, the tactic of their rhetoric appears to be saying whatever audacious thing comes into their heads to sort of stun people into considering their perspective - "They're the party of social conservatives!" "Cutting nurse bursaries will help nurses!" from just today. Where do you even begin with that?
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Jan 20, 2016 23:47
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Here's a great article about the current Tory bloviation about Muslim mothers and assimilation/integration.
quote:A much older cousin lived in London’s Turkish neighbourhood of Green Lanes for forty years, and never learnt to speak English. She earned money tailoring clothes from a sewing machine in her living room. She shopped in local stores owned and frequented by other Turks. She socialised with her family. There was —as she saw it— little urgency for another language. In fact, there was little time. Above all, she had raised two children to speak English perfectly, have English friends, and to contribute to British society with good jobs in IT and wins at martial-art championships.
Attributing blame to a woman who does not learn the language of a country, is as good as forgetting we are not the sum of every ambition life got in the way of. Being a working mother of two will almost certainly “get in the way”. Depression and social nervousness ever present will play their part.
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So unresolved is the value of integration, that there has been no such thing as an agreed global technique, nor expectation of our response to a move. I repeat sentences in my accent to impressed Americans, explaining phrases and slang until they parrot them back to me. Grateful for new words and information —which shows do I watch? Can I recommend British music in turn? Assimilation here is two-sided.
The most powerful motif of integration always seem to belong to those communities who have replicated a home away from home; the Indians in Southall, the Caribbeans in Tottenham and Peckham, the Greeks in Edmonton, the Jews in Golders Green. This is not rigid self-governing, nor division, rather the fluidity of continuity. Likewise, they cannot exist without the understanding and reverence of the host nation, whose own culture widens and benefits simply by accommodating.
Simply put, the only rule is acceptance, which is a must from both communities who mix like a kind of venn diagram until there is something of its own in the middle. But a £20m fund so immigrant women may learn English bares none of this. A worthy idea placed in a box of razors. After two and half years, women on a spousal visa will be tested on language. On failing, she will be faced with deportation. Young Muslim men, David Cameron said, are susceptible to radicalisation because Muslim women cannot speak out against Imams. Muslim women, he believes, can learn English to help their sons from turning to extremism.
So strong is the control of fear that foresight and evidence are neither provided, nor requested anymore. The existence of Daesh has become enough in Britain to simply imagine outcomes and separate women from their children.
The denial of humanness is to see a woman who speaks only her mother-tongue and blame it on her religion. It is to forget that she too experiences the very same every-day chores, stresses, and distractions that have limited us all in some way. She is given one narrative —a procedure of white supremacy— in which black boys who wear hoods cannot be cold, nor fashionable, they are ‘thugs’; where Jewish business owners are not hard-working, contributors of economy, but greedy and miserly; where Muslim women who do not speak English are complicit in acts of terrorism, not people who are busy, or mentally ill-prepared to retain a new language.
No matter. There is nothing new in throwing accusations of terrorism at Islam and hoping something sticks. On explaining why Muslim women were singled out in a plan considered for all non-English speaking women, a government source said, “David knows that the traditional submissiveness of Muslim women is a sensitive issue […] At the moment, too many Muslim women are treated like second-class citizens who may speak only basic English at best, and have no jobs or independent financial standing.”
Credible reasoning cannot be found in a statement that relies so heavily on “they all look the same”. The way of life for a Muslim woman in Saudi Arabia will differ from that of a woman in Turkey, who in turn will differ from that of a woman in Eritrea, and so on. That is to say, there is nothing theocratically traditional about submission, rather it is a varying product of nationality. In fact, when it comes to gender, it is worth remembering that “women as second-class citizens” is maintained worldwide.
But the portrait of Muslim men as patriarchal appeals in a way that white men controlling a woman’s modesty, —(we have all known the man who has met his partner’s outfit on a girls night out, with rage. We are heavily aware of a jurisdiction that believes the length of a woman’s skirt may contribute to her rape)— or her financial stability (the pay-gap) does not.
The one who cares about the well-being of women will not do so only within the parameters of criticising Islam. Domestic violence refuges have closed at such a rate under Cameron’s government that vulnerable women and children have been put back 40 years. A woman is killed by a man every two days in Britain, a statistic that is not likely to reduce any time soon. Every year 85,000 women are raped in England and Wales, where 97 per cent of these see no justice. Submission is submission, no matter the language —or two— a woman speaks.
Now consider this: Since the Paris attacks, violence against Muslims has increased 300 per cent where the vast majority of its victims are women. Muslim women have spoken for some years of being spat at, hit, or having their veils pulled from their bodies by white men in public spaces. If we had reached the denouement of integration and its value, we would know that in order for it to work it must be reciprocal. Offering English to non-speakers would then share a platform, say, with a project to unteach white men of bigotry that manifests in violence.
Only understanding the use of Muslim women as props can explain how there may be concern for a woman’s wellbeing around brown men, but not white. Why this plan does not target all failing participants of a harmonised society has yet to be asked.
There is, unfortunately, real fear of extreme behaviour from a man who grows loathsome of a country that defamed his mother, then separated her from him as a child. Never because of the language she loved him in.
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Jan 21, 2016 14:00
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- Jrbg
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UKIP exploded before this result IIRC. As in more splitters and in-fighting than a People's Front of Judea meeting. Who knew they were a bunch of incompetent arseholes?
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Jan 22, 2016 01:14
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Moira Stuart
The women off Gogglebox
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The winner of the last series of Great British Bakeoff
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RuPaul
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The woman who played the assistant to the drug addict press guy in the first series of the original version of House of Cards
Obama's Wife
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Moira Stuart
Halle Berry
Nicki Minj
I could go on and on and on.
Somehow I doubt it
Also is Nicki Minj your drag name Pissflaps? Don't disappoint me
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Jan 22, 2016 08:55
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- Jrbg
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You don't have to be a fascist to want to beat up saxophonists.
You're wrong and bad and don't like jazz enough
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Jan 25, 2016 00:41
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Did we hear about this already? House of Lords, in another Good Move, pisses off Cameron again:
Government loses major House of Lords vote to redefine child poverty
quote:The Government has suffered a major defeat in the House of Lords over its plans to change the way that child poverty is measured.
Peers voted 290 to 192 in favour of an amendment to that will force the Government to publish annual figures on income-related child poverty.
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Jan 26, 2016 01:28
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- Jrbg
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Some old duffers is indeed a better choice than the Remarkable Beetroot Human
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Jan 26, 2016 01:40
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- Jrbg
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I like how since May the main leitmotif of political debate in this country is polls and the politics of interpretation. Statisticians and literary theorists must be exhausted.
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Jan 28, 2016 15:54
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Bring back hanging and the cane imo
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Jan 28, 2016 16:03
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- Jrbg
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The insufferably posh rahs of St Andrews could be seen frequenting the Tesco's in town in their pyjamas and dressing gowns buying wine and crisps. The working class denizens near me can be seen in the Tesco extra in their pyjamas buying frozen dinners. Guess who gets tutted at and who gets called eccentric?
e: also the correct term is 'jim jams' where do you people get off?
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Jan 28, 2016 19:01
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- Jrbg
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you shouldn't tut at people it's rude
I don't do it, I don't care about people wearing pyjamas in public. Etiquette is frightfully bourgeois.
I hope that everyone in this thread only deigns to 'tut up' as it were
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Jan 28, 2016 19:06
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- Jrbg
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What about an SS uniform
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Jan 28, 2016 19:51
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- Jrbg
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Are there any glimpses, at all, that the nascent fascist impulses in Europe and the Anglosphere and elsewhere aren't actually winning out? I kind of need at least some sense that the British public aren't irredeemably morally torpid. Otherwise, I feel a temptation to revert to some kind of eremitic monkhood in the outer Hebrides or something. Like Luke Skywalker.
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Jan 29, 2016 00:59
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- Jrbg
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Just point out the four or so factions at war with each other, then ask which one they should be joining.
Kind of not the point.
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they're obviously reaching for any excuse to be a callous bastard and you can happily tell them so.
That's asking for a tut and a murmured, awkward reproach! Political correctness gone mad.
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