Auspol January: I think that young Abbott would make a really good minister

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teacup: Dec 20, 2006; = M I L K E R S =

Yeah, apart from the timing it's hilarious that he thinks he can challenge a PM who is hugely popular personally, to a public that probably thinks either nothing of him or what they do think is the "guy who couldn't keep his hands to himself while he was in Hong Kong away from his wife and children".

Whether the public cares about that or not is another thing but it's 110% his issue publicly now and he's trying to act like Bronnie did in Choppergate.

I also love this-

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Mr Eaton, who travelled on to London with Mr Briggs, did not hear from the consular staffer again until November 30, when she was at work. After the staffer texted him, saying she wanted to talk �about Friday night�, he called her immediately.

She told him that Mr Briggs had made an �inappropriate� comment to her while at the bar. �She said that she didn�t want to make a complaint but she wanted him to talk to the minister so he didn�t say it again,�� a source said.

It is understood the investigator�s report said the consular staffer did not want the matter to go further. Mr Eaton, who declined to comment when contacted yesterday, is believed to have informed the investigator of the substance of the texts but was not asked to provide them for examination.

She should have felt confident to give a complaint, but the poor girl probably thought "what a loving creeper, he really should be careful at this because it could've been a lot worse if I was someone else" and thought she was doing the right thing by not mentioning it. She finally thought a few days later "gently caress this guy, I'm mentioning it but not saying anything else so he at least gets a boot up the arse from his work" but was still afraid to be the 'shrill hysterical woman' so says to keep it quiet, just a heads up that hey the MP is a dick.

It breaks out, she stays quiet, does nothing else.

Commentators- IMPOSSIBLE STANDARDS! SHE HAS THIN SKIN GRRRRR

I feel so sorry for this lady. Hopefully her career is not affected by this.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2016 04:05

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# ¿ May 11, 2024 05:45

teacup: Dec 20, 2006; = M I L K E R S =

Smegmatron posted:

So the thing a lot of people don't realise is that universities have been churning out teachers at an insane rate with mixed results in terms of quality. We have more than enough teachers in NSW, to the point that we're actually oversupplied until at least 2020. The two major problems are an under-representation of minorities in teaching roles and casualisation of the workforce which has run so rampant. The only teachers with permanent, ongoing employment are rusted on fossils, and the new teachers who're trying to come up can't get enough consistent work in one place that it's hindering their professional development. From that perspective, anything which hinders more people who JUST LOVE WORKING WITH CHILDREN from entering the sector is a very good thing. The department is very well aware of this too, and they're looking to turn off the tap so they can start to chip away at the ~9 year long waiting list for a permanent position.

Pracs don't necessarily weed out the bad teachers because they're administered by full time teachers in schools, who're a mixed bag. Sometimes they have the opposite effect and very good teachers fail their prac because of a personality clash. There's no standardised system at all for assessing a teaching student's performance on practicum. It all falls to the whim of whichever exasperated boomer you get pinned to for a month. Most unis use the 7 point national teaching framework as a guideline for it, but in NSW at least, you pass your prac if you uni says you do, regardless of your actual performance. In the cast of a two year masters, someone from Usyd saw me teach for a grand total of 3 hours, and the discussions I had with them about those lessons totalled about 20 minutes.

You already have to sit an interview with the Department of Education to work in a public school in NSW, so adding one more interview with BOSTES to make sure you're at least capable of holding a conversation isn't particularly onerous. There's potential for abuse and discrimination, but as long as it's transparent and there's a solid appeals system in place to ensure discrimination can be stamped out, I'm not opposed to it at all.

I started to think of a way in which they could not crush peoples dreams AFTER they have studied for four years to get a teaching degree when they really shouldn't have, like screened people before hand. Then I thought the Universities wouldn't do that because they'd want more money anyway so figured it would have to be a government takeover kind of deal. A few steps from there and I was dreaming of a fully socialised state of education where you wouldn't get bullshit like this happening and teachers who are really important to our communities not getting permanent jobs for 9 years etc.

It was OK

# ¿ Jan 23, 2016 23:39

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