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ulvir posted:my paperback version of war and peace (penguin) has this weird thing with the pages. though I guess with a massive book like that, it might be an advantage Deckled pages are so annoying and make it impossible to flip through a book. It's just for book snobs to feel posh. The snobbiest of all books are the paperbacks with dust jackets and deckled pages, not designed for reading but for showing off.
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boom boom boom posted:That's not true. I've literally never seen a hardcover book that's the size of a mass market paperback but slightly taller. And most of the books I've seen that have this terrible new format are pulp sci-fi stuff that never had a hardcover release I'm pretty sure he was talking about TPBs.
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boom boom boom posted:That's not true. I've literally never seen a hardcover book that's the size of a mass market paperback but slightly taller. And most of the books I've seen that have this terrible new format are pulp sci-fi stuff that never had a hardcover release B format books, or small trade paperbacks in the US. It's nothing new but one of the standard paperback sizes. Are you reading books from the UK/Europe? The U.S. doesn't use that format much, sticking mainly to mass market < trade paperback < hardcover. The UK (and consequently most European publishing houses, though their terms vary) does A format (equivalent to mass market), B format (small trade), C format/demy (trade), and then the royal (hardcover). B format has generally been considered more "prestigious" as it was traditionally used to distinguish literary fiction from genre fiction. Very few authors will ever be popular enough to get a royal printing, but many strive to be a B format author.
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boom boom boom posted:That's not true. I've literally never seen a hardcover book that's the size of a mass market paperback but slightly taller. And most of the books I've seen that have this terrible new format are pulp sci-fi stuff that never had a hardcover release oh, I guess I didn't quite get what you meant, I have never seen this format before actually. that is really ugly.
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ulvir posted:my paperback version of war and peace (penguin) has this weird thing with the pages. though I guess with a massive book like that, it might be an advantage What's the advantage? Does it help fat paperbacks from curving or something?
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Earwicker posted:oh, I guess I didn't quite get what you meant, I have never seen this format before actually. that is really ugly. Comics publishers do that a lot for big bundle books My copy of Classic X-Men looks like that
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Enfys posted:Are you reading books from the UK/Europe? The U.S. doesn't use that format much, sticking mainly to mass market < trade paperback < hardcover. More and more publishers seem to be moving to this size, especially in genre and airport fiction. Bandiet posted:What's the advantage? Does it help fat paperbacks from curving or something? It's predominately an aesthetic choice.
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Enfys posted:B format books, or small trade paperbacks in the US. It's nothing new but one of the standard paperback sizes. It's happening in the US now. The Martian was that size, and all the new Star Wars books are the slightly taller size. It's terrible and they should stop.
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seems like a pretty easy way to avoid this format is to not read trash scifi
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Earwicker posted:seems like a pretty easy way to avoid this format is to not read trash scifi No.
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Bandiet posted:What's the advantage? Does it help fat paperbacks from curving or something? idk, I just found it easier to turn the pages as I go, whether it's just in my head or not is debatable
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Bandiet posted:What's the advantage? Does it help fat paperbacks from curving or something? There is no advantage. All books used to look like that due to the printing process because if you wanted even pages, you'd have to hand cut them, so they were more expensive. Then the printing process improved to where machines could cut all the pages evenly. Now deckled pages are a type of "vintage" aesthetic.
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you used to be able to tell if someone was a fake rear end poser because they had a bunch of big deep fancy books but did not actually cut the pages and thus had not read them. there is a well known line in Gatsby about this. but I think these days all books done in that style still have the pages cut before they hit shelves
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these days I judge people by whether the spine of their books show wear, and if they've got those ridiculously tacky and overdesigned hardcover versions of classic books
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E-readers ruin all the fun of judging people by their book covers
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Enfys posted:E-readers ruin all the fun of judging people by their book covers Don't judge a book by its Amazon review section
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ulvir posted:these days I judge people by whether the spine of their books show wear, and if they've got those ridiculously tacky and overdesigned hardcover versions of classic books I actually mastered a style of reading paperbacks without bending the spine because I think bent spines look ugly. I read paperbacks by sort of peeling back only the page I am currently looking at.
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take off your pants and dust jacket
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I actually mastered a style of reading paperbacks without bending the spine because I think bent spines look ugly. I read paperbacks by sort of peeling back only the page I am currently looking at. Yeah. I don't bend or break spines, and I don't buy used books with bent or broken spines.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I actually mastered a style of reading paperbacks without bending the spine because I think bent spines look ugly. I read paperbacks by sort of peeling back only the page I am currently looking at. I do this too. I will also look through an entire stack of a certain book at the store to find the ones in best condition and examine them side by side so I get the perfect one. I also buy books on ebay a lot since I prefer having the original hardcover copy of a book rather than a paperback. Unlike Amazon they'll usually have photos. gently caress you sellers who list a book as having "no flaws" or in "mint" condition when the photos clearly show the dust jacket is caved in on the spine!  I have serious issues. Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Jan 9, 2016 |
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I just bend open the book and don't really care about the spine at all. but I also don't intend to sell whichever book in buy either, so it doesn't matter to me. It's also really cumbersome to try to read without bending the spine or pages way back when your only source of light comes at an angle from your right
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less laughter posted:Get a Kindle, it is the best invention of the modern age. I dunno, the predominance of e-books makes me paranoid that the government is secretly changing all literature to control us all. Haven't you guys read your dust jacket encased, deckle edged copies of 1984? Or the Bible in the original Hebrew? Hard copy is the only safe method of reading. Think of the dust jacket as a book condom. The end is nigh! 
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the bible wasn't originally in hebrew
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Smoking Crow posted:the bible wasn't originally in hebrew Yeah everyone knows Jesus spoke American
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SpockandRoll posted:I dunno, the predominance of e-books makes me paranoid that the government is secretly changing all literature to control us all. Haven't you guys read your dust jacket encased, deckle edged copies of 1984? Or the Bible in the original Hebrew? It is unhygienic to have sex with books even if you use a dust jacket.
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Smoking Crow posted:the bible wasn't originally in hebrew Face palm.
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SpockandRoll posted:Face palm. I'm in university and I have to explain that the Council of Nicea didn't pick the books of the bible to other students
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SpockandRoll posted:Face palm. Is this a facepalm for you or for him because Crow is right bro
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Smoking Crow posted:I'm in university and I have to explain that the Council of Nicea didn't pick the books of the bible to other students I thought you didn't like fantasy novels *puts on cool guy sunglasses* *rides of on a horse of pure reason*
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I thought you didn't like fantasy novels 
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just throw out the dust jacket, op. while you're at it, rip off the book's cover. especially if it's a hard cover. they're awkward, cumbersome and just add needless weight to the book.
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I've a copy of Moby Dick that I gave a brown-paper jacket to because the red dye used on the cover was coming off on my sweaty hands.
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Moby Dick: a tense thriller that will have you sweating in anticipation.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Is this a facepalm for you or for him because Crow is right bro I was disappointed that no one got my lovely joke. Should I have gone with the original English?
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Earwicker posted:yeah sometimes there is no choice, but increasingly many good books are being released as paperbacks first these days. Depends on the book. For nonfiction biographical type stuff I'm an audiobook guy. I just don't need to concentrate too hard on the details of lost sailors or whatever. For things like Neal Stephenson, if it's not a big hardcover affair it feels wrong. For things like Philip K Dick, I feel slightly embarrassed if it's one of the new trade paperback editions and actively seek out the trashy old editions with the hilariously inaccurate cover art.
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I get rid of the dust jackets because they look classier on my shelf that way and help balance out the comics on the shelf underneath them.
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This thread has taught me two surprising things: - There are people who don't know about the trick to reading paperbacks without bending the spine? - There are people who don't just throw dust jackets away immediately?
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Enfys posted:Deckled pages are so annoying and make it impossible to flip through a book. It's just for book snobs to feel posh. Is there any point, any point at all to deckled pages, other than snobbery?
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Lankiveil posted:Is there any point, any point at all to deckled pages, other than snobbery? Small cost savings, perhaps.
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