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esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

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http://www.latimes.com/nation/immigration/la-na-ff-immigration-raids-20160103-story.html

quote:

In Norcross, Ga., on Saturday, Joanna Gutierrez said her niece and niece's 9-year-old son were taken by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, who arrived in an unmarked car and presented Gutierrez with a warrant for a man she didn't know.

Gutierrez says she told the agents they needed a warrant to enter her home. They told her they didn't, she says, and walked inside, checking every room in the house and waking her children. "They were shaking from fear," Gutierrez said of the children in a phone interview Saturday night.

After searching the house, the agents showed Gutierrez a photo of her niece, 30-year-old Ana Lizet Mejia. Mejia fled Honduras when her brother was killed by gangs. She entered the U.S. illegally with her son as part of a wave of Central American migrants seeking refuge from violence in the summer of 2014.

Mejia had never missed a court date, Gutierrez said, and wore an ankle monitor provided by the court.

"Why abuse a person who is already in the control of the court?" Gutierrez said.

According to an online inmate locater, Mejia and her son are now in custody, though ICE officials would not confirm the raids and did not give any details on the fates of the families detained or confirm whether they were being held.

So uh, any resident lawyers know what the rationale is for not needing a warrant?

also

quote:

Charles Kuck, an immigration attorney in Atlanta, said

what an unfortunate name

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esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

acejackson42 posted:

That website would be so large and so absolutely convolutedly intermeshed that horrific screw-ups in code would result and it would automatically crash your browser, fry your motherboard and feces would spray from the headphones jack.

My question is how in the holy hell is Fox News going to fit this into their 'Obama does everything wrong always' and 'we really, really hate immigrants' storylines? We're going to get a Scanners-llike implosion from the cognitive dissonance.

Easily, he's not taking all of them and he should have done it sooner.

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

Berke Negri posted:

They would still need a warrant to search a non-citizens home, which is moot anyways with the case here as unless I'm mistaken the home owner in this situation was a citizen, they were there for her niece.

you would imagine they would need a warrant in pretty much every situation, but i am not a lawyer because no one should be

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:


It really depends on what exactly the warrant said, which I'm guessing allowed the agents to search that specific residence. "I don't know that person" doesn't void the warrant for obvious reasons.

If you're consiering the warrant for someone completely unrelated, how exactly does that result in the extraction of two completely different people?

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

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In a cartoon graveyard

so basically its talked up as a deterrent to future people seeking asylum/immigration that would likely be denied due to fearing gang violence rather than explicitly government-based discrimination or action.

im sure people fleeing for their lives would rather take a gamble than simply be killed by criminal gangs that are working in the absence of anything remotely resembling effective governance, so this seems pointless outside of political theatre

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