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Me and you, we're going to fight. I'll accept that maybe i'm just nostalgic. But the second half the of mix when they very briefly cut (Generally right as they show the desk IIRC) back to an unmixed unmuddled version is just the worst.
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Gyges posted:I actually like the remix. Sounds 1000% better. Definitely a big improvement.
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Studio audience wasn't quite prepared for Noah's response to the Fox News accusations of crocodile tears. It's one of the first times he has set aside the comedy and embraced his serious side. I think he did a great job with it. Seemed like a few members in the audience kept laughing expecting him to make a joke.
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What the gently caress happened with Nightly? Did they hire all new writers, split off from Daily while taking all the lovely ones, what? Half of Larry's jokes he now looks around to the audience wondering why nobody's laughing and I can't remember the last sketch they did that was remotely funny. Last night's crossing guard and Rodman were physically painful to watch. Jesus. Luckily Daily is picking up steam for me. Astro Nut posted:Jesus Christ how is someone's first reaction to the President of one of the world's most powerful nations shedding tears over his country's apparent inability to not kill their own children... to ask why he didn't do the same thing with terrorist attacks? Like, I get maybe the dissonance can feel weird, but to be that loving indignant about it? That wasn't even the worst thing to me, it was this happening in Sandy Hook quote:First grader Jesse Lewis shouted at his classmates to run for safety, which several of them did. Lewis was looking at Lanza when Lanza fatally shot him. Our six year olds have been conditioned by now to recognize what the gently caress is going down before anything is even coming close to being done about it. Bananas. Botnit fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Especially after that story went around that Obama quietly met with all the families who lost a child at Sandy Hook to just listen to their stories and learn all about the children. When exactly did news become a for-profit enterprise? How was that legal?
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I think the mindset they had with this Rodman bit was "Jordan Carlos can do impressions. Let's just have him do one." And then they forgot to write jokes for it. Larry, like Stephen and John Oliver before him, took some of Stewart's staff with him. As much as I want to keep rooting for Larry, I think Nightly's problems start with him. He's comfortable with Nightly being TDS-lite. Less teeth. More casual presentation. Less obsessed with perfection.
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Steve Vader posted:When exactly did news become a for-profit enterprise? How was that legal? Since the printing press? I mean, I don't know who paid town criers or bards or whatever the hell else news was back then but once you could sell news as a commodity people were doing so.
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I mean that it used to be considered something off-limits, like news divisions of media companies were not expected to be profit centers because the public trust was something important, and I thought even the gubmint made some write-off-style benefits for that, even. I suppose I'll just go do my own research about this.
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Steve Vader posted:I mean that it used to be considered something off-limits, like news divisions of media companies were not expected to be profit centers because the public trust was something important, and I thought even the gubmint made some write-off-style benefits for that, even. I suppose I'll just go do my own research about this. I get what you are saying here. We know that Fox news whole reason for existence is to give grandma another reason to hate a black president, and their role is to be as contrarian as gently caress but you would think they would know where to draw the line when doing it. Attacking the president for crying when talking about murdered kids seems like a whole new level of douchiness, one that they didn't need to crossover into.
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Madkal posted:I get what you are saying here. We know that Fox news whole reason for existence is to give grandma another reason to hate a black president, and their role is to be as contrarian as gently caress but you would think they would know where to draw the line when doing it. Attacking the president for crying when talking about murdered kids seems like a whole new level of douchiness, one that they didn't need to crossover into. Are you kidding me? Those assholes don't have limits, they'll poo poo on Obama even if it was his kids that died. They give no fucks. They are absolutely terrible.
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Steve Vader posted:I mean that it used to be considered something off-limits, like news divisions of media companies were not expected to be profit centers because the public trust was something important, and I thought even the gubmint made some write-off-style benefits for that, even. I suppose I'll just go do my own research about this. It's a combination of things that got to this point. First, the networks themselves don't make shitloads of money anymore, which is what was used to fund the News divisions which operated at a loss. Second, the FCC has drastically relaxed it's Public Service requirements for broadcasters, which was previously being filled by the broadcast news. Third, cable was never under the jurisdiction of the FCC and always operated with the expectation of profit. Fourth, the abundance of entertainment options has diluted viewership to the point where turning a profit requires far more work than just informing the people and as a result lovely, opinion reinforcing, infotainment is the name of the game. So now you're left with PBS, which is losing ever more government funding and turning to private sponsorship, and CSPAN, which is boring as poo poo unless you loving love watching the Well of the Senate, poorly set up book talks, and listening to call in shows where crazy people rant at dispassionate hosts who possess inhuman patience.
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Botnit posted:That wasn't even the worst thing to me, it was this happening in Sandy Hook That in turn is not nearly as bad as the conspiracy theorist shitbags who think a bunch of dead children were all just actors. GreenNight posted:Are you kidding me? Those assholes don't have limits, they'll poo poo on Obama even if it was his kids that died. They give no fucks. They are absolutely terrible. Honestly I'm surprised they haven't devolved into TMZ-level obsessive snarkiness over the Obama kids in seven years. ...this is the part where someone links an example of Fox News doing exactly that. raditts fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Jan 9, 2016 |
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Didn't one of the Obama daughters go to a college and be in pictures where beer was around? I didn't pay attention to Fox at the time but they probably tried to make that a thing.
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bobjr posted:Didn't one of the Obama daughters go to a college and be in pictures where beer was around? I didn't pay attention to Fox at the time but they probably tried to make that a thing. That was the Bush girls. The Obama girls have gotten mild poo poo for what they wear and looking like they don't want to be at some function. Unless I missed something.
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Gyges posted:It's a combination of things that got to this point. First, the networks themselves don't make shitloads of money anymore, which is what was used to fund the News divisions which operated at a loss. Second, the FCC has drastically relaxed it's Public Service requirements for broadcasters, which was previously being filled by the broadcast news. Third, cable was never under the jurisdiction of the FCC and always operated with the expectation of profit. Fourth, the abundance of entertainment options has diluted viewership to the point where turning a profit requires far more work than just informing the people and as a result lovely, opinion reinforcing, infotainment is the name of the game. State funded public news still exists and can be good. See: BBC, NPR, Al Jazeera.
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Bro Dad posted:That's because the Nightly Show is a bizarro version of TDS that's aggressively unfunny and spreads ignorance: Unfunny, ok. Spreading ignorance? Are you loving kidding me? By the way Bill Nye apparently loves being on TNS and will likely be on it again in the future.
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AndyElusive posted:Unfunny, ok. Spreading ignorance? Are you loving kidding me? You didn't see the vaccine episode did you? Nostalgia4Butts posted:im really happy they're changing TDS up a bit from Jon. I really don't like Trevor's new stand in front of a screen thing for the first segment. I also don't like the new song. CHANGE FRIGHTENS AND CONFUSES ME
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:im really happy they're changing TDS up a bit from Jon. I don't mind the changes although the intro bit feels like it cuts into show time - previously the show would start at around 15 seconds, now its more like 40 seconds (I fast forward the intros so its more work for me now!). What I don't like is the guest lineups though. I'd find about 70% of Jon's guests interesting just from the DVR blurb and want to watch the next day. Its closer to... honestly 0% with Noah. I've maybe watched 3 of the last 20 episodes, just that quick second decision of "who the gently caress is this guest? I dunno, too busy gonna delete this episode" kicks in. I just assume the lineups are aimed at younger people, but then I saw last nights was Colin Quinn and all I can think is "wait... the dude from remote control? what the gently caress... delete" and yeah no Nightly Show in 2 months, don't miss it at all. I don't really watch any late night show at all anymore, maybe just clips from Fallon/Colbert/Conan when it gets sent around via email. Huge change for me from last few years when I would pretty much watch Stewart/Colbert every day 
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Echo Chamber posted:Larry to his credit pretty much called anti-vaxxers idiots in that episode. Too bad that point got washed away in the panel. And then they had another panel with one of them on it.
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spronk posted:What I don't like is the guest lineups though. I'd find about 70% of Jon's guests interesting just from the DVR blurb and want to watch the next day. Its closer to... honestly 0% with Noah. I've maybe watched 3 of the last 20 episodes, just that quick second decision of "who the gently caress is this guest? I dunno, too busy gonna delete this episode" kicks in. Trevor has to build up his reputation to the point where Jon was, which was part of why the guests were generally good by the time Jon quit. Of course Jon did still have guests you don't care about, but you forgot about them over time so you have a skewed view of the average Daily Show guest. Most of the time the guest portion is the weakest part of the episode anyway and the most common viewing recommendation is to watch the first two segments and either fast forward to the moment of zen or turn it off.
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Theres a reason why the daily show has the shortest interviews of any other late night show
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Count me as a fan of Noah and his crew. I like Wood and Lydic a lot and Wiliams and Klepper are coming into their own as the vets, I think. There's growing pains and episodes that miss but there's always been episodes that miss. The changes confuse and scare me because I'm old but I recognize that nothing actually changes by Noah standing up or the theme music changing. I continue to watch the Daily Show happily and with no sense of obligation. I've long ago given up on the Nightly Show and every occasional viewing doesn't make me reconsider. Gyges posted:Trevor has to build up his reputation to the point where Jon was, which was part of why the guests were generally good by the time Jon quit. Of course Jon did still have guests you don't care about, but you forgot about them over time so you have a skewed view of the average Daily Show guest. Most of the time the guest portion is the weakest part of the episode anyway and the most common viewing recommendation is to watch the first two segments and either fast forward to the moment of zen or turn it off. Yeah, you have to assume that a lot of Stewart's interview gets came because of Stewart's reputation and handling of interviews. Noah isn't going to be landing presidents and world leaders just because he took Stewart's job. He'll have to slowly pick up some legitimate interviews on a lower level and build up his skills/rep. Again, it goes back to us comparing Stewart in his 17th year vs Noah in his 1st. In some ways he's going to have to start at the beginning. Getting any old actor trying to sell movies is easy. Getting politicians and actually important people is tougher. I admit I find myself skipping the interviews more often than not these days and more frequently than I did with Stewart, but it will take time.
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IRQ posted:I also don't like the new song. JazzFlight posted:For real tho, that remix absolutely sucks and I can't believe anyone approved it. Yes fellow goons! Vindicate me! Thread consensus!
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IRQ posted:You didn't see the vaccine episode did you? The standing thing is fine. The new song / remix / whatever is straight loving garbage though. It seems so... Poochie-esque, like I half expect Trevor to put on sunglasses when it starts up. Echo Chamber posted:Larry to his credit pretty much called anti-vaxxers idiots in that episode. Too bad that point got washed away in the panel. The first segment is usually watchable enough for the 5-6 minutes before Colbert starts and I flip over to that, but I've long given up on the rest. It's weird because I think Larry himself is pretty funny outside the context of the show, and that first segment is usually okay as long as he doesn't have any of his terrible correspondents doing terrible impressions (or anything else, really), but the show in its entirety is a loving dumpster fire. Gyges posted:Trevor has to build up his reputation to the point where Jon was, which was part of why the guests were generally good by the time Jon quit. Of course Jon did still have guests you don't care about, but you forgot about them over time so you have a skewed view of the average Daily Show guest. Most of the time the guest portion is the weakest part of the episode anyway and the most common viewing recommendation is to watch the first two segments and either fast forward to the moment of zen or turn it off. I usually only keep the third segment on because I don't feel like changing the channel. I think Trevor's okay interview wise, I probably actively paid attention to an equal number of Trevor interviews as I did Jon interviews in his last year. raditts fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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Echo Chamber posted:Nightly doubled down on Jordan Carlos' Rodman impression last night. Ugh. Doubled down on both of it, both shows went from Grace Parra doing an even less funny bit to Rodman bits. I'm officially done with Nightly, it's unwatchable. Only thing that'd convince me to give it one last shot would be if they just made the whole thing a panel and never, ever invited Ricky Velez to be a member of it. Every panel I can remember he's just tried to talk the most and the loudest while not adding anything to it or even being funny. Mike Yard and Rory Albanese are good panelists, they can make funny and sometimes insightful comments and keep it flowing.
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"We had socialism for 100 years and it didn't work out"? What the gently caress is this dipshit talking about. On the one hand I wish Jon was here to destroy this mealy-mouthed fucker, but then again if Jon were here this guy wouldn't have the balls to come on this show.
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Greg is a guy who's 100% in this for the money. I almost like him just because he knows he's human trash but he gets paid to be trash by retards so who cares.
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While I don't agree with him politically I'm glad to see a guest who can speak smoothly while free styling on camera.
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M_Gargantua posted:While I don't agree with him politically I'm glad to see a guest who can speak smoothly while free styling on camera. trevor did a pretty good job at keeping up for being so new
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raditts posted:On the one hand I wish Jon was here to destroy this mealy-mouthed fucker, but then again if Jon were here this guy wouldn't have the balls to come on this show. yes this is also true but it's also fun to see the scared ones test the waters now that jon is gone
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That Sanders puff piece was not very good. At all. No real insight or analysis, reheated jokes... ugh. And I liked Monday's show, weirdly enough.
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Narcissus1916 posted:That Sanders puff piece was not very good. At all. Well, this is the first episode I've seen where they've talked about him in anything but a mocking fashion, so I guess they're playing catch up now.
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raditts posted:Well, this is the first episode I've seen where they've talked about him in anything but a mocking fashion, so I guess they're playing catch up now. It was really grating to have him only mentioned as "who is this guy?" the last 3 months.
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raditts posted:"We had socialism for 100 years and it didn't work out"? What the gently caress is this dipshit talking about. Yeah, it's kind of completely untrue. "We had something that isn't socialism but we like to call that cause we're assholes and it worked swimmingly until we started getting rid of all of it" is more accurate.
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