The Daily/Nightly Show 2016: Donald Trump Wants to Bang His Daughter

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Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

raditts posted:

I like Trevor and the correspondents and I think the show has been great.

Don't want to empty quote but really I can't say it any more succinctly. Roy Wood Jr. is my favorite of the new people, but I really like most of them.

# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 06:15

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 18:12

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

What the hell? That person asked a really good question on Twitter about the paucity of gun crimes committed by people with mental illness and Larry basically rephrased the question such that it lost its entire purpose?

# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 06:42

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Gyges posted:

I actually like the remix.

Sounds 1000% better. Definitely a big improvement.

# ¿ Jan 8, 2016 06:51

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Studio audience wasn't quite prepared for Noah's response to the Fox News accusations of crocodile tears. It's one of the first times he has set aside the comedy and embraced his serious side. I think he did a great job with it. Seemed like a few members in the audience kept laughing expecting him to make a joke.

# ¿ Jan 8, 2016 07:01

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Yeah, everyone needs to shut the gently caress up about Trevor not having the on-demand insight Jon had. You just sound stupid. Jon was reading the news and interviewing people and living and breathing American politics on a daily basis for over a loving DECADE. Trevor is a really smart guy, he will get there. And in fact he's already much better than Jon was at this stage. He just doesn't have the time-accrued wisdom that comes from experience -- YET. I'd much rather see him doing what he is now, i.e. taking it easy on guests while he gets his feet under him, than going after them hard and getting shot down by experience.

On another note, who the hell let Rand wear that outfit? jfc what a garbage way to dress.

# ¿ Jan 14, 2016 17:44

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Give Him Time �

# ¿ Jan 14, 2016 21:13

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Yeah, it looked so red...

# ¿ Jan 15, 2016 02:42

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Disagreed. Roy is my favorite correspondent, but I think you need someone with a more middle-of-the-road style as host.

# ¿ Jan 15, 2016 16:39

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

The dude is African! Get over it! He's relating to the news and jokes in a familiar way!

# ¿ Jan 15, 2016 17:04

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

IRQ posted:

Trevor mentions Africa though Raddits, AFRICA. The nerve!

Who cares about that country anyway? I mean jfc I tune in to TDS to get straight domestic news. Anything else is just a waste of my time.

# ¿ Jan 15, 2016 21:04

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Co-signing J Willy is amazing.

# ¿ Jan 19, 2016 17:10

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

I thought the gold segment was hilarious.

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 22:06

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

People like that are just beyond help. He said that bullshit out loud and didn't look embarrassed.

# ¿ Jan 23, 2016 01:30

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

I'm glad the seal was changed because despite a (surprisingly) reasonable explanation that (surprisingly) checks out, it's important to consider how it looks regardless. It's sort of like people who get swastika tattoos for Buddhist reasons (which, by the way mcbexx, would have been a much less asinine comparison). Like sure, maybe you're not racist and maybe it's a symbol of peace in your mind -- but you sure as hell look like a racist rear end in a top hat.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2016 17:08

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Toxxupation posted:

the manji isn't the swastika and has extremely important religious connotations (it's why hitler co-opted it and reversed the arms in the first place)

i get your implication but that's the worst possible comparison you could have made, considering that a religion all about peace and love that used a symbol for literally hundreds of years before a german douchebag stole it and critically changed it to mean the exact opposite of what the symbol stood for shouldn't have to kowtow to assholes who don't understand that pointing left != pointing right

Alright man. Go ahead and get a manji tattoo, and you're welcome to explain to everyone that you're not a racist rear end in a top hat, you're just a tone deaf fat toddler.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2016 19:03

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Gyges posted:

Buddhists and Hindus, notorious tone deaf fat toddlers.

Yeah that's what most Americans think of when they see a swastika.

In the immortal words of The Dude, "You're not wrong, you're just an rear end in a top hat."

# ¿ Jan 24, 2016 22:19

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

You're welcome to argue semantics and get stuck in the minutiae of the example I was using if you like, but the point is that perceptions matter. I'm not talking about a Nepalese Buddhist displaying his religious imagery, I'm talking about people who deliberately ignore the significance of historical context and what effect that might have on perception. Just as I frown upon white people getting the Swastika tattooed on themselves with whatever good intentions they may have, I frown upon Whitesboro's (former) seal for looking like some racist bullshit.

We live in the real world where people make judgments based on the information at hand, not in an academic seminar where people consider all possible reasons a town's seal might apparently depict a white person choking an Indian.

# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 03:01

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JazzFlight posted:

I find the problem is that Trevor Noah is almost a non-entity. He reads a bunch of jokes in a row in a jovial manner. It seems fake. I want him to say something off the cuff or get fired up about something. Hell, talk about interesting things going on in Africa that us Americans might not know about. I like John Oliver because he gets pissed about stuff and uncovers interesting stories that the media glosses over.

The only reason to currently watch TDS is the correspondent pieces.

Gyges posted:

This was true about 97% of all Jon Stewart Daily Shows. We'll have to wait for Trevor to get 9/11ed or something completely heinous, like all the times Jon got fired up.

He got all serious just the other day when Fox was giving Obama poo poo for crying about the murder of first graders. I thought he did a great job of it, too. The audience seemed a little unsure of how to react, though -- like they kept expecting him to make a joke but he was just serious.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2016 04:29

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

I've never found that funny from any comedian. Maybe it's cause I can't relate to it, I don't know.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2016 15:02

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Yeah I thought the bit was funny overall. I just feel like daddy issues are kind of a low hanging fruit comedy wise. I think he's funnier when he's doing other stuff.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2016 16:14

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Botnit posted:

The first bit he did with virtual reality I thought the dad bit was hilarious, every time since it's just gone downhill. I still like him a lot though, pizza rat was quick and funny.

I'm getting real annoyed with Trevor though. Comedic wise his voice imitations are terrible and it's like his most go to move. The worst thing though is that he's a terrible interviewer. The guy last night was trying to set up easy jokes that the crowd were into and Trevor just couldn't stop tripping him up over and over. He's done the same thing in a lot of interviews with comedians too, not just a one time thing.

But the thing that I'm annoyed by the most is that, to me, he's proven completely unqualified to be interviewing non-comedians. Others in the thread have already argued against the "but Jon needed more time too" logic but I'll go a step more and say he shouldn't have taken the job if he couldn't do better than whatever the hell it is he's doing with the 'real' guests and letting them regurgitate whatever they want with no rebuttal or insight in return.

Like somebody else said above I'm basically only watching now for the correspondents and maybe because I have a crush on Desi.

Really feels to me like an era coming to an end because I'm never giving Nightly another chance. At least we'll still have Oliver on HBO.

Oh, shut the gently caress up.

# ¿ Jan 27, 2016 01:47

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Gyges posted:

How will we make it through this torture after so many years of Jon's impeccable imitations.

Plus, I would add that although his standard American voice is not awesome, every other nationality he has done has been spot on to my ear. All Jon really had was the Brooklyn guy.

# ¿ Jan 27, 2016 04:14

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Dr Christmas posted:

He had Harvey Fierstein-sounding Jewish mother too

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/hso7s0/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-on-topic---the-best-of-jon-stewart---classic-impressions?xrs=share_red

# ¿ Jan 27, 2016 05:19

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Trump chat:

In my opinion, Trump winning the nomination is the second best scenario (behind Cruz winning of course) if the hope is for a Democrat to be in the White House. For lessons of history, compare Trump to George Wallace. They're both racist populists with Jingoistic slogans (Wallace's was "Stand up for America") who draw unwavering support from a cult following composed in large part of middle-class and poor white men. And Wallace was crushed in the general election. Granted, he ran as an independent, but I still think the comparison has merit, especially after reading Nate Silver's article on how Donald Trump is really unpopular with general election voters.

Daily Show chat:

Last night's episode is probably my overall favorite in Trevor's tenure so far. The opening segment was informative and well scripted, the short clip from Klepper was hilarious, and his summary of the town hall "debate" was succinct and funny. I was concerned he was being sexist with the bit about Hillary appearing to jack off two invisible dicks, but he anticipated that and made sure to play fair by calling Trump out. I laughed out loud and also maybe gagged a little when they put up the graphic of Bernie in the thong a la Nicki Minaj. And finally, I really liked the interview. I thought Noah did a great job of showing he can and will ask tough questions of progressive guests.

Only complaint is that the bit about consummating the marriage with the Seal Team Six catfisher felt a little like a prison rape joke.

# ¿ Jan 27, 2016 22:11

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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Yeah, as awful as Trump seems he doesn't really have a shot at winning the actual election which is why despite how awful Trump is I hope he wins the nomination, would you really want any of the other candidates in his place with a more realistic chance of winning? they are all awful terrible people in their own unique ways.

Trump is saving us from Ted Cruz, who would get a lot of support from republicans for no other reason then he is the candidate and his name is well known, for what it's known for, it doesn't matter.

This is a purely theoretical argument, but I seriously doubt that Cruz would do better within the GOP (or overall for that matter) than Trump. The guy is pretty much universally hated by politicians.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2016 01:08

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IRQ posted:

Politicians are almost universally hated by voters. That's why Cruz and Trump are doing so well (not really that well). 40% of engaged republican primary voters is not very many people.

However, while I agree that neither will likely win because they're so hateful and unelectable, people are deluding themselves if they think whoever winds up being the republican nominee will get less than about 48% in the general election polls. And as we all know, you don't need to get the most votes to win under certain circumstances.

The real worry is that we wind up with a contested convention and Rubio gets it. But the so-called establishment sold themselves up the river so hard over the last 8 years frothing up the teabaggers and birthers and other assorted nutballs that I don't think they can really be called establishment anymore anyway. The inmates are running that asylum.

Fair point about politicians being hated by voters, but I still don't believe either of those rear end clowns could draw 48% of the vote in a general election. I believe either would lose in a landslide. Every country club Republican I know is utterly embarrassed by the state of the party, and I'm pretty sure most of them would either stay at home or straight up vote for a Democrat.

That said, all bets are off if Bloomberg enters the race.

:ninja:

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Madkal posted:

It's pretty much shown that Trump has absolutely no crossover appeal whatsoever.

Agreed. Furthermore, in the fivethirtyeight piece I linked a couple posts ago, Bernie Sanders is the only candidate on either side of the aisle with a net positive favorability rating.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2016 02:08

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Gyges posted:

Completely anecdotal, but I always find it hilarious that in the stupid Red area of Florida I live in everyone respects your choice of Bernie Sanders. Talk to a Trump supporter, Cruz supporter, or endangered Bushie, and they'll accept your vote for Bernie as a reasonable choice. Most Hillary supporters also respect your decision, though they will argue way more with you about it. It is goddamn amazing to listen to some crackpot rant about the Mexicans and the Muslims and the treasonous pretender in chief, followed by a completely respectful acceptance that you're for the Socialist Jew from New York City.

Yeah man...That is pretty bizarre.

I guess it's a good thing?

# ¿ Jan 28, 2016 02:41

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raditts posted:

I had a chat with someone on Facebook yesterday who was asserting that Sanders won't get any traction with minorities because he refuses to address the issue of reparations, and Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote some big thinkpiece on it or something. Is this a widely held thought? Because I haven't heard much of his other thoughts regarding race issues, but I don't think it diminishes him against literally every other candidate who also is not addressing the issue, and reparations doesn't crack my personal top 10 as far as "issues as a black person in America." Yet this person was convinced that this was the singular thing that would make him unelectable.

Yeah, I confess I'm a little puzzled on this issue. All my black and brown friends like him, but I think he struggles for support in the broader black community. I also follow Killer Mike on IG and that dude is spamming Sanders endorsements 24/7. I think the criticisms from BLM about Sanders are that he just hasn't really addressed a lot of crucial issues of race head-on, which is true, but at the same time he is doing a far better job than anyone else from my perspective. He's the one who's talking non-stop about criminal justice reform and reducing prison populations and stuff. I mean from a policy standpoint, I definitely think he will improve the lives of poc more than other candidates but hey I'm a white guy so I don't necessarily have insight into these issues.

Edit: I guess the other thing is that Bill Clinton was pretty popular with black voters, so maybe Hillary is benefitting from that.

Pillow Hat fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Jan 28, 2016

# ¿ Jan 28, 2016 03:38

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

raditts posted:

Gave it a read, he makes some good points in there re: the varied aspects of institutionalized racism but it seems to only complicate things further because Coates seems to be of the mind that reparations should go beyond slavery to "literally every hosed up thing white people have done" and then just dropping the mic to leave it to someone else as to how the logistics for any of that would be remotely possible. It seems to be the basis for his argument and yet he acknowledges right off the top that there's no way it would ever happen, but then insists at the end that it has to happen. The whole thing feels really intellectually dishonest to me.

I guess I'm just of the mind that while acknowledging these issues is important, addressing them is a matter far beyond "throw enough money at it and it will be fixed" and to focus on that is a waste of everyone's time.

Yeah I understand your criticism but at the same time why should the onus be on black people to try to figure out the logistics of how we can begin to address the continued legacy of slavery?

# ¿ Jan 28, 2016 04:46

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

raditts posted:

I don't think it should be on black people^TM. I think it should be on him in particular, since he is making guidelines for what he thinks should be covered as part of reparations. It's hypocritical for him to criticize Sanders for proposing education reform without (in his opinion) a realistic plan for making it work, then turning around and saying "all this poo poo needs to be accounted for" and then also providing no realistic plan for making it work.

I respectfully disagree. I think people often fall into the trap of thinking that the inability to solve a problem precludes accurate analysis of it in the first place, but I don't see it that way. It's been probably over a year since I read that Coates piece, and I should definitely return to it. But I think it's reasonable for an author to say in broad terms what he sees as important steps to take without having all the supportive logistics figured out.

On the other hand, Sanders is running for office, not writing think pieces. He should have an actionable plan to achieve his goals. Just my two cents.

I'm a big-time Bernie supporter if that's not obvious. Just trying to understand for myself and explain at the same time what some of the problems he's facing are.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2016 06:10

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

I understand your point. I love Sanders and Coates, so :shrug:

I look forward to hearing more from Bernie on the topic of racial inequality, and I hope the pressure BLM is applying will increasingly bring the topic to the center of our political discourse. I'm tired of dog whistle politics.

I'm just tired of politics.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2016 06:26

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Man, I hope Fiorina and pals are at least privately embarrassed that they got so completely duped by that apocryphal Planned Parenthood video. Obviously they'll never back down or recant their statements, but I hope they feel crunchy when they're lying in bed with their eyes closed trying to fall asleep at night.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2016 14:28

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

I just mean since Fiorina in particular gave such an impassioned speech about it. Regardless of your opinion on the matter, she bought into it hook, line, and sinker (at least publicly) and it turns out it was completely fabricated. It's like it was her first time on the internet as a naive child and she believed everything she saw even though it was posted to /b/ by a user named AbortionIsDelicious420Guy.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2016 14:41

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

These articles are both relevant to things being discussed.

Bernie Supporters being sexist gently caress heads: http://mashable.com/2016/01/29/bernie-sanders-berniebros/#Z_ubT7lcrmqX

Bernie Sanders and the minority vote: http://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...Hillary-Clinton

# ¿ Jan 30, 2016 17:59

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Gyges posted:

Why can't people just admit that Hillary actually is an American liberal? She's not the model liberal, but the idea that she's just a DINO looking to satiate her power fetish is ridiculous. There's shitloads more to actually attack her on than stupid Shillary the stealth Republican weaksauce.

Hillary Clinton is a neocon. This article argues the point with much more sophistication than I can.

Echo Chamber posted:

Just tell me the one GOP candidate you'd vote over Hillary isn't Kasich.

Honestly I thought Kasich seemed reasonable when I first saw him in the debates, but realistically I'd vote for HRC (whom I detest -- see above) over him. He worked to defund Planned Parenthood in Ohio, supports the death penalty and calls that consistent with Christian values, voted to prohibit needle exchanges, called Bible stories historical facts in 2010, said that the extent of climate change was unproved, stopped accepting Syrian refugees, had his NRA rating upgraded from F to A in August 2015 (source). I mean the dude is moderate by GOP standards I guess, but he's still an apparent religious zealot who is on board with broader GOP ideology.

Now, that's not to say HRC is a liberal (because she's not), but at the very least I believe that she would nominate liberal-leaning justices to SCOTUS, and the next president will get at least two if not more. That is more important than whatever one president can do.

M_Gargantua posted:

As for last night I liked most of the jokes in the Zika segment, except the anal one which seemed really out of place. Chang continues to be weird at the end of every segment. And appreciating the non famous guests who are just cool members of society.

I thought the anal joke was kinda funny, and I thought most of the intro was pretty meh. And I thought this was Chieng's second best showing behind the segment on voting machines. I guess we had exactly opposite reactions to the show.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 04:54

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Eiba posted:

That article, from what I skimmed, does not suggest that she's conservative on domestic issues. She's a "neocon" only in the sense that she'd probably bomb more random countries.

You basically just defined neoconservatism.

:ninja:

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raditts posted:

I would be down for Elizabeth Warren as a VP.

gently caress yeah, been saying this for a while now. Sanders and Warren are the only two politicians I really care about.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 05:23

Pillow Hat: Sep 11, 2001; What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Ha ha ha ha ha what the gently caress! Peter Bergen's laugh is ridiculous!

Loved that interview. I wanna read that book ASAP.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 22:57

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Chromatic posted:

I seriously took that as him repeating it out of frustration because it got a lukewarm reaction.

Holy poo poo you are dumb. How could you possibly come to that conclusion? :psyduck:

# ¿ Feb 5, 2016 00:03

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Chromatic posted:

Sorry for thinking one of your favorite television men is mediocre.

I can accept your apology this once, but in the future consider voicing your criticism to a trusted friend first who might tell you if you sound like a fat toddler.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2016 01:44

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 18:12

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raditts posted:

Some of you guys are trying to hate this show so hard, I can't figure out why you still bother watching.

rjryan3 posted:

Then why don't you just go to the Late Night Talk Show Locker Room Discussion then? I'm getting really sick of the Trevor Noah haters on this board misconstruing his jokes.

If you don't like Trevor Noah, fine. making GBS threads on him isn't really adding to thread discussion, and he's here to stay. I'm not saying he should be immune to criticism, and I have a few of my own for him. But coming in here just to post that you hate him and that you think the show is ruined doesn't add constructively to the conversation, and it's a bummer to read. Just my two cents.

Pyroxene Stigma posted:

Ronnie's bit on the last episode had me in tears, and he didn't mention his father once!

Yeah, I was happy to see this piece. I want to like Chieng, and I think he has potential beyond that low hanging fruit. I really hope he stays away from the dad thing lest he turn into a one trick pony. I think best-case scenario, he'll probably return to it a few times in his forthcoming correspondent pieces, but hopefully as he gets more comfortable and hears positive audience feedback to his non-dad jokes, he'll branch out more.

My favorite correspondent right now is Roy Wood, Jr. Every piece he does is fantastic. I know I'm in for a treat when he is responsible for a segment. That said, I really can't understand thinking he should be the host. I just don't think his comedy or style is suited to it, and that should be not construed as any kind of criticism. The host has to play the straight man, and I think we'd all be missing out if Roy were confined to that role.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2016 23:56

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