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Now that it's done, what were the significance of the red eyes?
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Mar 24, 2016 22:49
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Modus Pwnens posted:Now that it's done, what were the significance of the red eyes? Seems to just be Murderous Intent.
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Mar 24, 2016 22:58
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Modus Pwnens posted:Now that it's done, what were the significance of the red eyes? Given that totally innocent characters like Kenya and that journalist character get them, I'm thinking they're there to encourage suspicion and alienation on the part of the audience. So, kind of like a red herring, but more central to the story's themes of building connections in a broken, paranoid world. Note how Yashiro loses his as his mask breaks and we're encouraged to view him as a lonely, broken person rather than some sort of incarnate demon.
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Mar 24, 2016 23:12
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Modus Pwnens posted:Now that it's done, what were the significance of the red eyes? nothing, they just looked cool. it's the same with the spider threads. i mean people are free to read into them but the latter especially comes off as just a cool visual metaphor in the manga.
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Mar 24, 2016 23:29
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OST is out and it's quite nice.
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Mar 24, 2016 23:49
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dogsicle posted:nothing, they just looked cool. it's the same with the spider threads. You may want to check your definition of 'metaphor' there. Hint - if something means nothing, it's not a metaphor.
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Mar 24, 2016 23:52
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Overall, I really enjoyed this. Can anyone recommend something "similar"? I won't precisely define similar, because there are many aspects of the show that I enjoyed.
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Mar 25, 2016 00:08
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Shakugan posted:Overall, I really enjoyed this. Can anyone recommend something "similar"? I won't precisely define similar, because there are many aspects of the show that I enjoyed. Steins;Gate is a similarly character-focused show with time-travel elements. Monster is a similarly atmospheric, eerie show about tracking a nigh-inhumanly cunning serial killer.
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Mar 25, 2016 00:12
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"Another" has the creeping dread and tension with a mystery to figure out as well.
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Mar 25, 2016 00:15
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jng2058 posted:"Another" has the creeping dread and tension with a mystery to figure out as well. But it also had a terrible ending.
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Mar 25, 2016 00:23
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jng2058 posted:"Another" has the creeping dread and tension with a mystery to figure out as well. Another is a comedy show by the end.
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Mar 25, 2016 00:29
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jng2058 posted:"Another" has the creeping dread and tension with a mystery to figure out as well. it's also loving comically ridiculous
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Mar 25, 2016 00:40
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Got kinda choked up along with Satoru at the very end there. Very good show, this one. Brought a new best mom in anime to the stage.
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Mar 25, 2016 00:47
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Darth Walrus posted:You may want to check your definition of 'metaphor' there. okay, the thread is a visual representation of a person's life. it's just used so there can be a badass panel of scissors cutting it when Gaku kills somebody your post doesn't read very pleasantly, btw
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Mar 25, 2016 00:48
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dogsicle posted:okay, the thread is a visual representation of a person's life. it's just used so there can be a badass panel of scissors cutting it when Gaku kills somebody Sorry, it's just that yours felt slightly dismissive. No harm, or do we need to go back in time a few minutes to fix this?
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Mar 25, 2016 00:51
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Darth Walrus posted:Sorry, it's just that yours felt slightly dismissive. No harm, or do we need to go back in time a few minutes to fix this? Revivals are involuntary, but no it's fine
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Mar 25, 2016 00:56
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Great show. That was a trip watching it week by week. I thought the ending was well done. The only thing I still had questions about is what about all the people he saved with revival before like the kid in the first episode? I guess we're supposed to figure this timeline was better since the teacher doesn't kill anyone during the 15 years
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Mar 25, 2016 02:46
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This show is 
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Mar 25, 2016 02:52
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VostokProgram posted:This show is  I can't believe how much I enjoyed this anime. I guess judging by the responses i'm glad to have not read the manga, although I might now.
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Mar 25, 2016 03:03
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nnneeeoooowwww
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Mar 25, 2016 05:36
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Anyway, this show was really super good and I'm glad it exists.
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Mar 25, 2016 05:37
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I liked it and added to my list of anime for '16.
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Mar 25, 2016 05:46
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Decided to check the final chapter of the manga, and there's a whole other character here, Satoru casually aced what would be the equivalent of a GED i suppose and the bit of his work being adapted into an anime ended up being a surprise that'd lead to a party. I really should read the manga instead of having seen the anime.
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Mar 25, 2016 09:00
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Yashiro's really lost his edge over the last 15 years. He went out like a chump. Otherwise, the show ended elegantly. I noticed a Senkou no Night Raid and an Occult Academy cameo, was there also a Sora no Woto shout out in there as well?
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Mar 25, 2016 11:49
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Shakugan posted:Overall, I really enjoyed this. Can anyone recommend something "similar"? I won't precisely define similar, because there are many aspects of the show that I enjoyed. I've been enjoying the manga "Mayonaka no X Giten" quite a bit. Both of them are murder mysteries with mild-moderate supernatural elements, but with very different tones. Still, it's pretty good and hits some of the same notes for me.
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Mar 25, 2016 15:04
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I'm not sure what to make of this ending. I enjoyed all the epilogue stuff, but the conclusion of the rooftop confrontation made very little sense to me. The rest of the show was so fantastic that I've been trying to give it the benefit of the doubt and make sense of it instead of just writing it off, but it's not really doing it for me. On the one hand, I guess it's thematically appropriate in a show about trust for the finale to be a massive leap of faith, but it was very uncharacteristically cartoonish, in a way that I had a hard time taking seriously. And yet it seemed almost like it was actively intentionally trying to give that impression, with the landing and Satoru's knowing wink. So I don't know what to make of that. I guess such a cheesy plan kind of fits with a story about someone who aspired to be a superhero and never got to truly grow up, but it still felt really out of place and inappropriate to me. Not to mention the question of how Satoru and his friends were able to predict events enough to set any of this up, and Satoru's nerves of steel while dangling off the edge in the midst of his crazy life-or-death gamble. So even with the possible thematic significance in there, I think I like the idea of the ending more than the ending itself. The show was so strong for the rest of its run that probably the lowest score I could possibly give it is a 9/10, but I can't deny I'm disappointed by this ending.
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Mar 25, 2016 15:20
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To be fair, he had his friends listening in long enough to know they were going to go with roof related deaths.
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Mar 25, 2016 20:34
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Yawgmoft posted:To be fair, he had his friends listening in long enough to know they were going to go with roof related deaths. Sure, but for him to speed across the roof like that and dangle from the edge as calmly as he did, I feel like he'd have to have a hell of a lot more than just a blind-faith assumption that his friends would somehow know to have a cushion there to catch him. And especially with the corny wink at the end it comes across like this was somehow all completely planned in advance, but I just can't envision how that would even be possible.
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Mar 25, 2016 20:40
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esselfortium posted:Sure, but for him to speed across the roof like that and dangle from the edge as calmly as he did, I feel like he'd have to have a hell of a lot more than just a blind-faith assumption that his friends would somehow know to have a cushion there to catch him. And especially with the corny wink at the end it comes across like this was somehow all completely planned in advance, but I just can't envision how that would even be possible. I assumed the shot of the roof gate swinging open in the beginning of the episode meant that both he and his friends knew where he was going to jump off and could prepare that beforehand.
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Mar 25, 2016 20:43
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Strange Quark posted:I assumed the shot of the roof gate swinging open in the beginning of the episode meant that both he and his friends knew where he was going to jump off and could prepare that beforehand. That makes sense and I had forgotten about that detail. During the episode, I was definitely expecting the swinging gate to be foreshadowing some sort of setup involving Satoru's friends. But I still just don't get how they expected any of this to take place on the roof in the first place. If they somehow knew that in advance, then the whole plan becomes a bit more plausible, although still silly.
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Mar 25, 2016 20:49
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Overlord K posted:Got kinda choked up along with Satoru at the very end there. Very good show, this one. Brought a new best mom in anime to the stage. I teared up too.
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Mar 25, 2016 20:50
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esselfortium posted:That makes sense and I had forgotten about that detail. During the episode, I was definitely expecting the swinging gate to be foreshadowing some sort of setup involving Satoru's friends. But I still just don't get how they expected any of this to take place on the roof in the first place. If they somehow knew that in advance, then the whole plan becomes a bit more plausible, although still silly. i'd guess they determined it would be the roof simply cause there's nowhere else he could quietly take satoru to kill him without anyone noticing
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Mar 25, 2016 20:52
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They decided it would be the roof because Satoru is a big anime fan and knows that anything interesting always takes place there.
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Mar 25, 2016 21:01
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one thing that his confidence the plan would work out might have been very subtlely showing is that in the manga he actually goes through hospital arc twice, with the revival happening after he's regained his memories and learned of Yashiro's next plans. So he already has all the cards in his hands on the third revival and just has to carry it all out which culminates in a much better last dialogue between the two in my opinion.
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Mar 25, 2016 21:04
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Futaba Anzu posted:one thing that his confidence the plan would work out might have been very subtlely showing is that in the manga he actually goes through hospital arc twice, with the revival happening after he's regained his memories and learned of Yashiro's next plans. So he already has all the cards in his hands on the third revival and just has to carry it all out which culminates in a much better last dialogue between the two in my opinion. Oh yeah, that would really change things. It would've been great if they had hinted at that somehow. As-is, though, I don't think there's much to support it in the show.
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Mar 25, 2016 21:09
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Shakugan posted:Overall, I really enjoyed this. Can anyone recommend something "similar"? I won't precisely define similar, because there are many aspects of the show that I enjoyed. I'd personally recommend anything by Urasawa Naoki. Though most of its still in manga form, Monster did get an anime. I really wish 20th Century Boys would get an anime.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:35
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I kinda like him not going through a final revival. It's nice that Satoru finally learned to have complete confidence in his friends and his ability to be a hero rather than "I already know everything since I messed up enough do overs".
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Mar 25, 2016 22:35
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Yawgmoft posted:I kinda like him not going through a final revival. It's nice that Satoru finally learned to have complete confidence in his friends and his ability to be a hero rather than "I already know everything since I messed up enough do overs". Yeah, I was actually cringing at the thought he'd get another revival as he was falling off the roof or something. The way it actually ended stretched my suspension of disbelief a little, but was better in terms of the story it was trying to tell with that essay he read at the end.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:42
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e: wrong info, my bad?
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dogsicle posted:the final revival in the manga isn't actually shown, fwiw. it follows Satoru through all the hospital stuff to his final confrontation with Gaku (which, in the manga, is at a hospital sponsored festival sorta in the wilderness). Gaku's plan was set up in such a way to make Satoru only able to either save Kumi or confront him, but not both. so Satoru explains Revival to Gaku and reveals that he had already seen his plan acted out and presumably had a Revival after. I think you've misinterpreted the manga somewhere. In the final chapter Satoru explains he never again experienced a revival after waking from the coma. There's no hidden revival anywhere, as far as I can tell. The closest thing I can think of is when Satoru is on the bridge and tells Yashiro "This is my second 2005", which includes the one before he ever jumps back (because that was in 2006) and the current timeline. Unless I'm the one reading it wrong.
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