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menino posted:ESPN is not focused on the idea that men and women should be equal. It's focused on entertainment. No it doesn't. The only people that get that impression already had it in the first place, without fail. They wanted to see it and Lo and behold they did.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:40
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menino posted:But these particular women writers are all about lifestyle. They see a lovely system and think that the only problem is that women aren't running it. Yea, these particular unnamed and ambiguous women sure are a big problem all right.
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Mar 4, 2016 05:33
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^^^^^* Welp! rudatron posted:Ultimately I don't think misogyny/misandry/patriarchy are good labels, the theory has evolved to such a point that it's not useful to think of it in terms of 'hate' or 'rulership', but ideology. Like patriarchy isn't an actually coherent system like oligarchy, it's a language, a virus, a set of symbolic associations, a religion, a set of faulty assumptions, etc. Though I know how that must sound, "The etymology is wrong, what a tragedy", but I think it's important to have the right first impression. Which I kind of think is what motivates the thread topic in the first place, as a framing of something to do with the relations between sexes only (which is why the constant refrain to the rape of women getting highlighted is 'well men get raped to'), when the correct framing should be of one ideology versus another - the 'traditionalism' that disempowers women and shits on effeminate men for the sake of enforcing highly constrained & demeaning gender roles, and, well the feminism that seeks to grant people freedom to self-express. You could have just said "I'm an egalitarian because the label feminism is sexist against men  " and saved everyone a lot of time.
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Mar 4, 2016 14:29
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