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So apparently a bunch of people actually went and saw that Michael Bay movie last night. I wasn't there because gently caress that, but other people were there and those people saw a trailer for Valencia aka The Cellar aka 10 Cloverfield Lane. Here is the poster and the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQy-ANhnUpE Discuss. Topper Harley fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jan 15, 2016 |
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Uhhh... I don't think this video is what it's supposed to be.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:06
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Martman posted:Uhhh... I don't think this video is what it's supposed to be. Hahaha! Fixed.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:09
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I love John Goodman in anything, and I love Cloverfield. Even though the trailer doesn't show any monsters, the title is like right loving there. And I'm really excited for a monster movie that completely shifts the genre from the first movie, ala Alien to Aliens.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:13
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That trailer was the best part of the night when I watched 13 Hours. I also like that it ditched the shaky cam from the first one. I took a dose of Dramamine before seeing it and it wore off halfway through. 
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Jan 15, 2016 17:23
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That trailer got me interested, but part of me is wondering if this is an unrelated film that they decided to market with the Cloverfield name.
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Jan 15, 2016 20:20
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Lord Krangdar posted:That trailer got me interested, but part of me is wondering if this is an unrelated film that they decided to market with the Cloverfield name. It's gotta be the Cloverfield monster outside, maybe more than one because I think the ending of Cloverfield implied there was a younger one stomping around also, not to mention the parasite creatures that made people explode. I don't know if I should spoil this, but what little information there is out there says the girl was in a car crash, blacked out, and woke up in John Goodman's character's shelter where he tells her there's been a chemical attack and they can't go outside. Why he's lying instead of telling her that there's giant monsters out there is probably the theme of the movie, like "the real monster is humanity", that sort of thing.
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Jan 15, 2016 20:34
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Lord Krangdar posted:That trailer got me interested, but part of me is wondering if this is an unrelated film that they decided to market with the Cloverfield name. This is sort of what I'm thinking it is. Several years ago, Matt Reeves alluded to the idea that they could branch off and show different stories that take place during the events of Cloverfield. Maybe this is Bad Robot's attempt to get an Anthology series off the ground similar to what John Carpenter tried to do with Halloween (and subsequently abandoned after Halloween 3 bombed).
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Jan 15, 2016 20:36
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Colour me excited, I loved the first one but part of me thinks that it was the experience of the film than the actual film, the ARG was great and that initial teaser in 2007 was just so cool.
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Jan 15, 2016 22:44
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I dunno, looking into the credentials of some of the folks behind this, I'm not too excited. Here is the director's other thing he's done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4drucg1A6Xk
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Jan 15, 2016 23:00
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I'll go see it. I like Cloverfield and love John Goodman, so yeah, let's do this.
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Jan 15, 2016 23:04
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The Cloverfield aspect is completely unappealing to me, but the idea of John Goodman in a character-driven cabin movie is pretty cool.
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Jan 15, 2016 23:16
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BJPaskoff posted:It's gotta be the Cloverfield monster outside, maybe more than one because I think the ending of Cloverfield implied there was a younger one stomping around also, not to mention the parasite creatures that made people explode. I thought the monster in the movie was the younger one and was freaking out because it was a literal baby and everything was really scary.
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Jan 16, 2016 00:01
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It took 8 years to make a Clloverfield sequel?
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Jan 16, 2016 00:26
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This was a spec script called The Cellar that was bought up in 2012 by Bad Robot, and started production in 2014 under the title Valencia. No one knew it was Cloverfield related until this trailer dropped, I guess. So the assumption here is that this is a standalone thriller that probably got rewritten to make a couple of references to Cloverfield, but other than that it's probably not related at all (the people on the production describe it as a "blood relative" which should give an idea). In other words, expect a lot of people getting pissed off when they go check this out and discover it's a chamber piece with like 2 minutes of actual Cloverfield stuff in it. Regardless I'll check it out because I'm a big fan of Mary Elizabeth Winstead and John Goodman. And if you can't wait: watch Faults on Netflix. Another movie about Mary Elizabeth Winstead trapped somewhere that's very good! Edit: It's worth mentioning that The Cellar was conceived by Josh Campbell and Matthew Stuecken, but a third writer came on to work with the script once they decided to change it into a Cloverfield movie. That writer? Damien Chazelle, writer/director of Whiplash. justlikedunkirk fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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Jan 16, 2016 00:32
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Somebody reassembled the trailer in an order that made sense to them. I like it. http://imgur.com/a/poOmz And then, there's the website https://www.3-11-16.com which redirects to an image of a bomb shelter. Two lines of thinking on this: Paramount is just doing a cash grab, slapping some cloverfield bumper stickers on an existing movie, OR, JJ Abrams held a screening 4 months ago but intentionally omitted anything cloverfield to keep it under wraps. Given how they pulled off that first movie under wraps, I'm hopeful this is the same thing. Please oh please do not let this be Blair Witch 2: The Witchening.
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Jan 16, 2016 01:49
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justlikedunkirk posted:discover it's a chamber piece with like 2 minutes of actual Cloverfield stuff in it. So just like the first movie! 
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Jan 16, 2016 02:00
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Bad Robot really has the movie marketing thing down, it's amazing that other studios haven't figured out "Explain nothing or very little of the plot in the trailer" as well as they have.
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Jan 16, 2016 02:06
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Bad Robot really has the movie marketing thing down, it's amazing that other studios haven't figured out "Explain nothing or very little of the plot in the trailer" as well as they have.
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Jan 16, 2016 02:28
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I, for one, am excited to see how this plays out. I looked at the imgur take on it and the only thing I disagree with is the "she's taking a video as an homage to the original." It looks blindingly apparent to me that she is trying to find a cell signal. If anything, I would imagine that scene is very early in the movie as she discovers not only is she handcuffed and has a broken leg but is being held against her will. Of course she tries her phone (and of course it doesn't work X feet below ground which is why Goodman's character lets her keep it). Perhaps this is a totally separate movie that was shoehorned into the Cloverfield universe but even it is, the premise looks interesting without a giant monster running amok. If they use the events of the first film as a backdrop or as a macguffin to keep them down below, that might be all that's needed, though I would be disappointed if they use the opportunity to give us a little more lore about what actually happened before/after the attack on New York.
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Jan 16, 2016 02:55
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magnificent7 posted:And then, there's the website https://www.3-11-16.com which redirects to an image of a bomb shelter. That website was only registered today and redirects to some real estate company's random image. They don't control the image it points to and can be changed to deleted at any time. I seriously doubt that's officially connected to the movie.
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Jan 16, 2016 03:10
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FCKGW posted:That website was only registered today and redirects to some real estate company's random image. They don't control the image it points to and can be changed to deleted at any time. I seriously doubt that's officially connected to the movie. The realty website, bottom of the page:  Design by yesimarobot http://yesimarobot.com/ Guy's been on twitter since April 2008? No clue. But... come on. BAD ROBOT, and this is yesIamarobot.com?
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Jan 16, 2016 03:24
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ufarn posted:I dunno, it was an extremely annoying shtick, until we kinda forgot about it as JJA started doing star movies and played things differently. I mean basically, if this is any other studio, no one gives a poo poo about this movie.
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Jan 16, 2016 04:04
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Wow, this is like the next level of movie secrecy where instead of just withholding the movie title (which the first Cloverfield did) they film it by cover of night and spring it on everyone. It's probably going to suck like the first Cloverfield aside from the novelty of stuff blowing up.
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Jan 16, 2016 04:22
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magnificent7 posted:Somebody reassembled the trailer in an order that made sense to them. I like it. That order fits the progression of the wound on John Goodman's head too, fitting with a bottle attack being the first thing we see happen to him in the movie. I hate that JJ has me playing this game with a movie again. They better be drinking slusho, I tell you what.
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Jan 16, 2016 04:41
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magnificent7 posted:The realty website, bottom of the page: So you think JJ has been running a real estate company since 2008 in anticipation of this movie? Someone registered the site today, googled "bomb shelter" and redirected it to the first image he found. Seriously, it's not an ARG site. Plus Reddit has been calling the Realty website and the designer all day and they're getting pretty irritated now.
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Jan 16, 2016 05:00
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With Fringe JJ recorded and pressed and artificially weathered 300 copies of a fake lp by a fake band and had people stash copies in the bargain bins of used record stores and didn't tell anyone for 9 months--and only because nobody seemed to have found any of them. I think only about five were ever found or documented by fans of the show. The rest were instantly snapped up by vinyl collectors who had never seen the show but thought that they had found some really rare record nobody knew about, which was kind of true.
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Jan 16, 2016 05:12
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Jack Gladney posted:With Fringe JJ recorded and pressed and artificially weathered 300 copies of a fake lp by a fake band and had people stash copies in the bargain bins of used record stores and didn't tell anyone for 9 months--and only because nobody seemed to have found any of them. I think only about five were ever found or documented by fans of the show. The rest were instantly snapped up by vinyl collectors who had never seen the show but thought that they had found some really rare record nobody knew about, which was kind of true. This is actually pretty cool.
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Jan 16, 2016 06:24
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justlikedunkirk posted:Edit: It's worth mentioning that The Cellar was conceived by Josh Campbell and Matthew Stuecken, but a third writer came on to work with the script once they decided to change it into a Cloverfield movie. That writer?
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Jan 16, 2016 12:38
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FreudianSlippers posted:I thought the monster in the movie was the younger one and was freaking out because it was a literal baby and everything was really scary. Yeah, the idea was that Clover was an infant screaming for Mommy, terrified and acting on instinct, crawling over things that felt wrong to it and being poked at by things it didn't understand. As far as this movie is concerned, I'm torn. I liked the first movie and I want to say I'd be fine with a side story in the same universe (especially since I like Halloween 3 and feel people's rejection of it was dumb), but I'd be lying if I said I'd be kosher with the sequel to the Giant Monster Movie not featuring the Giant Monster somewhere significant in the plot. No, don't try and feed me some disingenuous ~maybe humans are the Real Monsters~ poo poo. Jack Gladney posted:I hate that JJ has me playing this game with a movie again. They better be drinking slusho, I tell you what. ARGs aren't really a thing anymore (unless they are and I don't know), but I really hope that if they do an ARG-like thing again, they do a better job of it than they did with the first movie. I get it, 90% of your viewers aren't going to pay attention to it, so you can't put important stuff in it, but Christ there was a lot of unresolved-and-thus-pointless stuff in the Cloverfield ARG that drowned out the fun "this might've caused the Monster to wake up" bits. Random Cloverfield trivia, if I remember the commentary right: the director (or someone) of it was concerned that the first teaser trailer wouldn't convey what the movie was enough, so he ADR'd the clear line "I saw it, it's alive, it's huge" into the trailer. He excitedly went online a few days later to find that people online were furiously arguing if it was "Alive" or "A Lion", making people think it was a Voltron movie and making him feel 
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Jan 16, 2016 13:00
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i thought the explanation for the monster in cloverfield was dumb since you see something fall from the sky into the ocean during the fairground scene and can just assume it was an alien from space. there's really no reason to overexplain it with outside sources.
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Jan 16, 2016 14:02
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Groovelord Neato posted:i thought the explanation for the monster in cloverfield was dumb since you see something fall from the sky into the ocean during the fairground scene and can just assume it was an alien from space. there's really no reason to overexplain it with outside sources. Even now, I'm not entirely sure about the significance of the satellite - nor why it fell down. Something to do with the organisation who poked the monster when it was snoozing.
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Jan 16, 2016 14:37
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MisterBibs posted:Random Cloverfield trivia, if I remember the commentary right: the director (or someone) of it was concerned that the first teaser trailer wouldn't convey what the movie was enough, so he ADR'd the clear line "I saw it, it's alive, it's huge" into the trailer. He excitedly went online a few days later to find that people online were furiously arguing if it was "Alive" or "A Lion", making people think it was a Voltron movie and making him feel If only he had been a goon. We could have warned him that the internet makes you stupid.
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Jan 16, 2016 14:38
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MisterBibs posted:Yeah, the idea was that Clover was an infant screaming for Mommy, terrified and acting on instinct, crawling over things that felt wrong to it and being poked at by things it didn't understand. They still are.
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Jan 16, 2016 14:49
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ufarn posted:That was a Japanese satellite. (And yeah, I just had to go through the wikis and crap to remember what the hell actually happened in Cloverfield, because there's no way I remember.) oh yeah i know what it was "supposed" to be but the explanation is extraneous because within the film the monster can be explained as falling from the sky in that scene (which is what i thought happened).
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Jan 16, 2016 15:21
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FCKGW posted:So you think JJ has been running a real estate company since 2008 in anticipation of this movie?
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Jack Gladney posted:With Fringe JJ recorded and pressed and artificially weathered 300 copies of a fake lp by a fake band and had people stash copies in the bargain bins of used record stores and didn't tell anyone for 9 months--and only because nobody seemed to have found any of them. I think only about five were ever found or documented by fans of the show. The rest were instantly snapped up by vinyl collectors who had never seen the show but thought that they had found some really rare record nobody knew about, which was kind of true. That's actually pretty cool. I hate JJ but nice one and something more creative.
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Jan 16, 2016 15:54
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I don't know how anyone could hate JJ. He's basically the only person who would try and actually succeed at producing a sequel to a movie that the Internet obsessed over and actually keep it a secret until the trailer shows up out of no where 2 months before release. He's good at what he does. He may have fumbled the ball a few times, but for the most part, he creates a lot of experiences that are actually fun.
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Jan 16, 2016 16:10
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BJPaskoff posted:I love John Goodman in anything, and I love Cloverfield. Even though the trailer doesn't show any monsters, the title is like right loving there. And I'm really excited for a monster movie that completely shifts the genre from the first movie, ala Alien to Aliens. The "I Don't feel so good" moment is one of the most shocking and traumatising deaths in any modern horror movie. If this comes even close to replicating that, it'll have been a couple of million well spent.
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ufarn posted:That was a Japanese satellite. (And yeah, I just had to go through the wikis and crap to remember what the hell actually happened in Cloverfield, because there's no way I remember.) I always figured that whomever was watching the tape was only interested in that one or two seconds of footage, there'd be millions of hours of footage from an attack on NYC, this is the only found footage that might explain the reason behind the monster.
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