Which non-Power of the Daleks story would you like to see an episode found from? This poll is closed. |
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Marco Polo | 36 | 20.69% | |
The Myth Makers | 10 | 5.75% | |
The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve | 45 | 25.86% | |
The Savages | 2 | 1.15% | |
The Smugglers | 2 | 1.15% | |
The Highlanders | 45 | 25.86% | |
The Macra Terror | 21 | 12.07% | |
Fury from the Deep | 13 | 7.47% | |
Total: | 174 votes |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 05:42 |
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Rhyno posted:Timelash rules. Most people post that..... WITH A SCREAM!
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2016 09:27 |
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Tomtrek posted:All of the DVD releases since the BBC changed their logo (from just the white letters to the current purple one) have double-sided covers, with the other side having the old logo so the spines match up! God bless the BBC and their understanding of what spergs they know their fanbase to be
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2016 22:08 |
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The Seeds of Doom really is great, it moves at such a good pace and like you said you don't really feel like it's six episodes long. That's helped by the 2 episode "mini-story" that sets the scene before moving the action to Chase's manor, you don't have time to get bored of the setting. On a tangential note, the last time I watched this I also watched The End of Time at around roughly the same time, so I kinda got this concept mixed up in my head:
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2016 00:45 |
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After The War posted:
I love it in The Three Doctors when he meets the Brigadier who immediately begins snapping that the Doctor's been loving about with "that infernal machine of yours", blames him for sending Jo into another dimension and assumes he's the Third Doctor just changed back to the way he used to look. And refuses to accept Benton's attempts to explain the situation. Benton: What about our Doctor, sir? Don't you want him back? Brigadier: Enough of that nonsense, Benton. I've got him back. As long as he does the job, he can wear what face he likes.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2016 03:37 |
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Short Synopsis: Some smug assholes learn what a smug rear end in a top hat REALLY is. Long Synopsis: River Song is pulled out of secluded academia for what turns out to be an audition to join the "Rulers of the Universe". A party, drugs, manipulation and death follow as River hunts down a mystery from the dawn of time, all while doing her best to keep the 8th Doctor alive without actually meeting him. What's Good:
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Final Thoughts: The Diary of River Song is a well-executed effort to bring revival-era character River Song into the Big Finish universe, helped by the linking character of the 8th Doctor who has always sat somewhere between Classic and Revival series. Kingston easily carries the lead, and her chemistry with Paul McGann is excellent and makes me eager to hear them "team" up again. Each individual section stands alone but everything works as a whole too, and it makes probably the best use of the Time War so far in a story. The bad guys are a little underwhelming, or at least not really on the same level as the playing field they want to be on, but individual characters have a good dynamic with River - particularly Bertie Potts, played by Alexander Vlahos. Sadly Alexander Siddig feels underutilized, he doesn't really stand out in any way from the other supporting cast. Though Paul McGann features heavily in the fourth story, this is very much the Alex Kingston show, and that really tells you everything you need to know. If you don't like how she portrays River Song on television you probably won't like this either, and if you do like her you're going to get a lot more of what works there. This is worth checking out if only for the novelty of seeing River written by somebody other than Moffat though, as well as seeing her playing around in a non-revival setting. On the strength of this story, I'd love to see her with the War Doctor, and especially any of the classic series Doctors doing Big Finish. Basically, I want to hear River interacting with various different Doctors.... hell, I'd love to hear a version of her "meeting" with the 1st Doctor mentioned in the otherwise awful Eternity Clock videogame, where he catches her snooping around the scrapyard and chases her off! Basically, give me more River Song, because this was good stuff and a fun listen, and I'm all for that. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Feb 9, 2016 |
# ¿ Jan 18, 2016 11:22 |
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I have to admit I paid more attention to the story-specific covers for The Diary of River Song and didn't actually notice until pointed out that the actual box cover has Paul McGann front and center and Alex Kingston off to the side. That is pretty hosed up.Toxxupation posted:i ended up watching the eleventh hour again today, for like the tenth time now Absolutely, it's a stunning episode. Also: Bicyclops posted:Also the finale from that season is really good Also correct. I still get a thrill at the,"Something old, something new, something borrowed, something..... blue" line.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2016 22:23 |
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It is kind of bizarre to realize how different Patrick Troughton looked as the Doctor than he did in so many of his other roles.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2016 23:50 |
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I wonder what his desire is for a present
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2016 13:49 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Boy, the Zygon two-parter is just...not very good at all. Especially that second episode. I've never had to force myself to finish a season like this before. Regardless of what people think of the Doctor's final speech (some love it, some hate it), I thought the second episode was far, far, far better than the godawful first episode. I may feel that way purely be because I disliked the first episode so much though.
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2016 22:04 |
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Mondas is out there..... waiting
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2016 23:52 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Ok wow, Heaven Sent is a hell of an episode. It's one hell of a bird, that's for sure
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 02:51 |
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That was really cool
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 03:52 |
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This is really unhappy news - Chibnal's first season of Broadchurch is amazing but it was clear it was something he'd invested a huge amount of time into (he'd probably had the story planned for years) and season 2 immediately went off a cliff because he didn't seem to have any ideas how to continue what he started. Almost all of his stories for Who have unsuccessfully aped RTD's style without getting that spark that made RTD's stuff so much fun to watch even when it was objectively terrible - at his best on Who he's been solid/unspectacular, and now he's going to be running the whole thing. I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope he pulls something magical out/proves me wrong, but based on his prior track record I'm not holding my breath AnonymousNarcotics posted:Since everyone here seems to No matter what words follow any sentence like this, it will always be wrong. Plenty of people liked season 9 (plenty disliked it too) but it's a fools errand to try and apply any kind of thread consensus to Doctor Who. That said - season 8 was excellent, probably my third favorite season of the revival behind Season 5 (the best of the entire revival) and season 4 (RTD's best).
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2016 01:46 |
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I'm gonna really miss Moffat too, he made plenty of missteps as showrunner but in general I thought he made it a better show than it was in the RTD years. Not a knock on RTD at all, just I preferred the show under Moffat to Rusty.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2016 01:52 |
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I wonder if Gatiss was offered the job? If not, why not? Maybe they felt he is too closely tied to Moffat, or didn't want to gently caress with Sherlock? Or maybe he was offered and turned it down. I don't know how good a job he would have done, but I'd feel a bit better about it than Chibnal taking over. At least he has a couple of years to put his first season together, in any case. Edit: I just saw he posted "Sclavus liberatus felix est" on his twitter about the time the announcement was made, so it strikes me that maybe he wouldn't have been particularly keen to have the job after all.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2016 09:18 |
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Stabbatical posted:I thought he was still popular outside of some of us in this thread. He is, there are vocal elements who dislike him - some because they think his stories aren't as good as they used to be, others because they think he was a bad showrunner, others because of statements he has made around gender and sex. There are multi-faceted reasons for why some really like him and others don't, and it's a fool's errand to try and apply any kind of consensus to how he was viewed given how much trouble Doctor Who fans have agreeing on anything.
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2016 03:35 |
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And More posted:The Fearmonger I'm still shocked at how good this one is, both because it is an early audio and also because McCoy stories often struggle to raise above "mostly pretty good" outside of a few notable exceptions. That they got it so right so early is kind of mindblowing.
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2016 23:07 |
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CobiWann posted:(I say this as I'm in an argument on Facebook with a bunch of people who think The Rapture is McCoy's best story) There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be fought.
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2016 23:58 |
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And More posted:It really sets the bar very high. The way it uses radio, speeches and propaganda to comment on audio as a medium is pretty unique. I think it also helps that it feels very much like a natural continuation of the (good parts of the) McCoy television years, I can almost see the "episodes" in my head.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2016 01:15 |
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Short Synopsis: Lucie Miller gets mad jelly Long Synopsis: Lucie is "recruited" by the Head Hunter to track down the Doctor, missing and presumed dead since defeating Morbius. "Retired" to the watery planet of Orbis for 600 years, the Doctor has forgotten (not amnesia!) a lot, but he still recognizes an invading fleet and an evil scheme when he sees it. What's Good:
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Final Thoughts: Orbis marks a good 'reboot' of the 8th Doctor Adventures universe following the big climax of the (sadly rather pedestrian) second season. The chemistry between Paul McGann and Sheridan Smith remains strong, and is given a rather neat twist by the Doctor's lengthy absence from not just her but humanity and the universe in general. When the two are verbally sparring or working together the story is very strong, and a very fun listen. Unfortunately when they're not together, things kind of go south quickly. The bad guys are uninspired and treated too goofily for the stakes of the story. The good guys are just annoying to listen to, and are a waste of some good talent like Andrew Sachs. The return of the Head Hunter works as a catalyst for the reunion of the leads, but she quickly outstays her welcome after having such a heavy presence over the last two seasons. As set-up for the ongoing adventures to come, it's fun, but as a story in its own right it is a bit of a letdown.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2016 02:47 |
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Tim Burns Effect posted:Fine I'll settle for Chatterton then Nobody "settles" for Chatersby
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2016 21:39 |
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Along those lines....
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2016 02:58 |
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Tilda Swinton - I just hope she accepts her destiny instead of fighting it like Alan Rickman did
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2016 06:12 |
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Keep in mind that Broadchurch is the BEST thing he has ever done. And I don't mean that to drat the first season of Broadchurch, because I think it is excellent (and as noted, the casting is superb), but he has never done anything as good as that before or since, and that sadly includes the second season of Broadchurch.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2016 00:13 |
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Jsor posted:Season 2 of Broadchurch was bad except for whenever they let Olivia Colman act. Yeah, but that's kinda cheating because you have to work extraordinarily hard to get a bad performance out of Olivia Colman. The second season had a lot of problems, but the most galling were the trial scenes. There was a ton of potential there, but the scenes were just laughably bad and made everybody involved look like idiots. That said, I feel like he did a pretty great job writing the wrap-up to that plotline with his victims confronting him and exiling him from the town, and just utterly refusing to listen to any of his pathetic, insincere justifications and recriminations. It's just a shame that everything leading up to that moment was so bad.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2016 21:57 |
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jivjov posted:Well, in my 8th Doctor Catch Up, I finally got out of the Divergent Universe. jivjov posted:Time for Terror Firma! The cliffhanger leading into Terror Firma was so perfect and had me so excited. Then we got what we got.....
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2016 00:08 |
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CobiWann posted:one of the Torchwood Three team members using a mind control device to convince women (and men) to sleep with them. I will never give up on harping on about this - he doesn't use the device to "convince" them. He completely ignores them as people, their objections or complete lack of interest is irrelevant. He uses the device to FORCE them to act in the way he wants, to bypass them as people and turn them into slavering objects for his own pleasure. It's rape, pure and simple, and remains the most baffling and awful creative choice to introduce a character who we're eventually supposed to feel sympathy for and buy into his "redemption".
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2016 03:01 |
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Short Synopsis: A rockstar germinates the seed of a doomed idea. Long Synopsis: The 8th Doctor returns to Earth via an unusual request, and encounters an old threat he thought had been dealt with long ago. Ecological, moral and political debates are tossed aside momentarily in favor of survival, leading to the question of whether survival comes at any cost, when is sacrifice the moral choice, and who gets to make that decision? What's Good:
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Final Thoughts: The Hothouse is a fun follow-up to an absolute classic Tom Baker story. It furthers the theme of the Doctor's detachment from Lucie slowly being broken down and the two coming to like and appreciate each other all over again. There are some good body horror elements, and it raises some interesting philosophical and ethical arguments and has a pretty solid antagonist who is unfortunately undermined by an odd choice of background. The story is at its best when the Doctor and others are arguing about right and wrong, though the moments where they are racing for survival or holing up in fear from the encroaching Krynoid-controlled vegetation are also very good. Some dodgy accents undermine some of the more serious moments, but by the end when the Doctor and Lucie emerge as the sole survivors, there is the sense that nothing was a waste of time because we've seen those two come out of their experience once again closer for it, and on their way to getting back to the way things were before Morbius. That kind of development is good, even if it is development of a theme that was only introduced in the first story of the season.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 01:57 |
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Bicyclops posted:The soundtrack for the Sea Devils is like nails on a chalkboard, but it gets a free pass because of the mid sword-fight sandwich. Indeed Bicyclops posted:I think I was just so happy that Orbis's amnesia plot was neatly swept under the rug for this that I was breathing a sigh of relief the whole time. You're right, though . Its most fun moments are the arguments between the Doctor and the villain and the audio equivalent of "dashing through the corridors." Yeah by this point I think they must have been doing,"Does he have amnesia?" bits just for a joke, because there's no way they can't have noticed how often they were going to that well. Bicyclops posted:The accent thing I've just gotten so used to at this point. I've more or less accepted that every other story is going to have some goofy fake American saying "Hyow do we stahp it, Doc-turr?" Half the time it's a Canadian ex-pat and you have to wonder what on earth they were trying to do. That's to say nothing of the zneaky German zscientizts or occasional French love interest. I guess nothing is ever going to top the American accents in Zagreus anyway vv
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 10:17 |
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greententacle posted:The villain is Peter Garrett? Well I suppose my confusion over the simultaneous "it's the modern world"/"it's a near-apocalyptic hellhole" setting could be explained if the setting was Australia....
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 22:41 |
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I guess Bono could work.... the whole thing just seemed so out of place though.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2016 02:47 |
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Tim Burns Effect posted:Speaking of Cyberman voices, I listened to "The Isos Network" the other day and, while the story itself wasn't that great, I'll always be a sucker for the electro-larynx Cyberman voice. Why they decided to stop doing them that way is beyond me. I agree, especially since Big Finish do a really loving good job at producing that voice effect in a way that actually sounds creepy. Given that Nicholas Briggs does the Cybermen voices on television just like he does the Daleks, I'm surprised that they haven't at least given it a go.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2016 21:51 |
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Yeah, also given how many "Tombs" there must be lying around with Cybermen in suspended animation, there is no reason that the Doctor shouldn't be encountering differing levels of technologically upgraded Cybermen. There's a pretty awful Big Finish story by Joseph Lidster called The Reaping that has one really great moment in it. A hyper-advanced Cyberman from far in the future travels back in time with crude time-travel technology and forces the Doctor to transport it to Mondas before it encountered earth. Its plan is to upgrade the Cybermen there, but when it arrives it is damaged and the older "sing-song" Cybermen recognize it as a Cyberman, but don't understand its technology and - realizing it is damaged - assume that the upgrades are actually part of the fault. So with typical remoseless logic they completely ignore its protests and pleading to listen as they tear its upgrades away and imprint their own crude programming over its advanced one, wiping its mind of the "illogical/impossible" memories it has and reducing it to just another identical, crude, old-fashioned Cyberman.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2016 22:18 |
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I like Spare Parts but I never thought it was quite as amazing as others made it out. Probably my favorite Cybermen audio is one I don't want to name, because their arrival is one of the best cliffhangers Big Finish has done. Once they show up, their portrayal and the 8th Doctor's reaction to them is basically exactly what I've always felt they should be, and it's executed to near perfection. Cyberman: We muzzzzzzt survive. Doctor: Yes yes, you must survive..... but why? Cyberman (confused): ........thizzz quezzztion is irrelevant..... The story is Human Resources but if you can go into the story unspoiled it will be so, so much better.
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2016 02:14 |
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Yeah, I'm a big fan of the DVD releases, they're one of the few I buy where I actually bother to make use of the special features/commentary. The commentaries in particular are usually a lot of fun.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2016 02:42 |
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Short Synopsis: What if Hansel & Gretel were biologically engineered super-soldiers? Long Synopsis: In 19th Century Germany, the 8th Doctor and Lucie stumble upon the aftermath of a savage attack by the so-called "Beast of Orlok". Disguising themselves as officials to avoid being arrested for the crime, they uncover old secrets, an invincible foe and, most fearsome of all, a trumped up bureaucrat. What's Good:
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Final Thoughts: The Beast of Orlok is a sci-fi story getting in the way of a fun Gothic-Horror Detective period piece. Trying to have its Black Forest Gateau and eat it too, it mixes life-changing revelations with casual jokes; brutal evisceration with a shrug; then rushes through an ending while discarding supporting characters with barely a backward look. Fun to listen to for the interactions between the Doctor and Lucie, or the smooth way the Doctor tears an pompous official down a peg or two, the biggest hamper to the story is a peculiar piece of continuity where it feels like entire scenes have been completely skipped over - whether in the editing process or the actual script itself who knows. It doesn't flow smoothly, in any case, and felt to me like I was missing out on something even if intellectually it was straightforward enough to piece together what was intended to have taken place. One for completionists perhaps, apart from seeing the Doctor and Lucie fall back into casual, comfortable familiarity with each other this story doesn't have much else to offer, beyond the thought of what might have been if they'd taken a slightly different tack.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2016 09:07 |
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I mean this not in a cruel way, but.... does it really matter? We know what the psychic paper does, does it really need an "origin" story? It's fun to explore the world of Doctor Who and all, but not everything needs a highly detailed origin story or explanation, I feel like going down that path leads to nonsense like the old Star Wars extended universe before that was mercifully removed from existence.CobiWann posted:Jerusalem, how would you compare the Eighth Doctor audios to the modern TV series, since Big Finish wanted to try to make the EDA's more accessible to new viewers than the main range? In all serious, the EDAs have been slightly disappointing to me. There have been several absolute stand-out, excellent stories that were just great, but the general level of quality has been really quite average. They do however have the benefit of a shorter, more accessible run-time and the very deliberate aping of the revival's season-arcs (nothing out of the ordinary for many shows, but something Classic Who rarely did) means that there is always a sense that they're building to something. I'm about halfway through the 3rd season now and I like the general theme of "the Doctor has become detached from humanity and is getting back in touch thanks to Lucie's presence", but so far I haven't listened to a single story that made me go,'Wow, that was amazing" like something like Human Resources or Grand Theft Cosmos did. I'm looking forward to finishing up season 3 and 4 so I can finally move on to Dark Eyes and then Doom Coalition.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2016 20:20 |
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Now THAT is a Christmas present!Bicyclops posted:I think the advantage of the EDAs is that there are fewer stories which are complete duds or make you want to scream. You never really get Scherzo but you don't get Creed of the Kromon either, which is okay, because the Main Range still handles both of those extremes in terms of wild experimentation. It helps to break things up to have a change of pace. This is true, I can't recall any of the EDAs so far being atrociously bad. Even if they were, they'd be quickly over because you're talking about a 45-60 minute running time as opposed to 2+ hours.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2016 03:36 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 05:42 |
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qntm posted:I just figured you could embed that moment in a good story, that's all. Cripes. Sorry if I was a jerk about it!
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2016 13:25 |