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NotALizardman
Jun 5, 2011

I'm getting real sick of Mabuchi being mean to Mira!! He's a big loving jerk!!

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a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

NotALizardman posted:

I'm getting real sick of Mabuchi being mean to Mira!! He's a big loving jerk!!

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.

Cutest buttkick.

Blhue
Apr 22, 2008

Fallen Rib

Pavlov posted:

The normal coil thingies don't just seem to be batteries, but also computers with always-active DRM reporting on your usage, which is necessary and accepted because ???

because the inventors have an absolute monopoly on them

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Why did none of you fucks tell me Dimension W was by the guy who wrote King of Thorns?

I had to hear it from the chat thread of all places!

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
It is? Huh.

NotALizardman
Jun 5, 2011


This is abuse! Stop bullying the cute robot girl!!!

Gyra_Solune
Apr 24, 2014

Kyun kyun
Kyun kyun
Watashi no kare wa louse

Pavlov posted:

The normal coil thingies don't just seem to be batteries, but also computers with always-active DRM reporting on your usage, which is necessary and accepted because ???

corporate monopoly and control but also probably sorta-justified by how the whole tapping into dimensional energy stuff has ultra-dangerous consequences and so they need to monitor everything that's happening with them to determine if someone is loving around with them to amp up the voltage and increasing the risk of turning an entire city block into an incomprehensible hellscape

Ka0
Sep 16, 2002

:siren: :siren: :siren:
AS A PROUD GAMERGATER THE ONLY THING I HATE MORE THAN WOMEN ARE GAYS AND TRANS PEOPLE
:siren: :siren: :siren:

NotALizardman posted:

This is abuse! Stop bullying the cute robot girl!!!

Go watch Chobits lol.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
I liked this episode alot, looks like the denizens of hell are not appreciative.

Also, I appreciate the event horizon homage.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Yeah, I had misunderstood the basic premise I guess. I thought that normal coils were perfectly safe, but if anyone tampering with them can cause a non-euclidean hellscape event they kind of need that level of monitoring. Kind of silly how widespread they are if some dude loving around with his cell phone could break reality, though!

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Serious Frolicking posted:

Yeah, I had misunderstood the basic premise I guess. I thought that normal coils were perfectly safe, but if anyone tampering with them can cause a non-euclidean hellscape event they kind of need that level of monitoring. Kind of silly how widespread they are if some dude loving around with his cell phone could break reality, though!

I'm assuming official coils have some safeguards to stop them from going haywire, which illegal ones probably lack. Honestly if official coils could be used for crime, illegal coils probably wouldn't exist in significant numbers and there's actually be a whole lot less problems.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Slime posted:

I'm assuming official coils have some safeguards to stop them from going haywire, which illegal ones probably lack. Honestly if official coils could be used for crime, illegal coils probably wouldn't exist in significant numbers and there's actually be a whole lot less problems.

That is also what I assumed until I read this:

Droyer posted:

You could also read it as "a coil used for an illegal activity is reclassified as an illegal coil" so :shrug:

edit: also Kyoma specified that the red color, and the subsequent events, weren't because they were illegal.

So, that dude in episode 2 would have had the same results if he had messed with a broken regular coil.

Edit: Like, having infinite free energy would still be a step up even with the potential danger, but there doesn't seem to be any sort of caution about normal coils. The monitoring is necessary because of the danger, but people accept the monitoring without anyone mentioning that danger. poo poo's weird, is all.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Feb 1, 2016

Mirage
Oct 27, 2000

All is for the best, in this, the best of all possible worlds

Serious Frolicking posted:

Edit: Like, having infinite free energy would still be a step up even with the potential danger, but there doesn't seem to be any sort of caution about normal coils. The monitoring is necessary because of the danger, but people accept the monitoring without anyone mentioning that danger. poo poo's weird, is all.

It's possible that New Tesla may just tell people "We need to monitor your cells or else you will die of Undefined Bad poo poo, seriously you don't want to know, but trust us, it'll be a bad scene" and people go "Oh, okay, definitely don't want that." In the meantime, hey, free energy!

This last episode kinda lost me. I'm torn between going to read the manga to see if any of that stuff made sense, and riding it out in hopes that the story aligns somehow.

Dr Subterfuge
Aug 31, 2005

TIME TO ROC N' ROLL

Serious Frolicking posted:

That is also what I assumed until I read this:
So, that dude in episode 2 would have had the same results if he had messed with a broken regular coil.

Didn't Mabuchi specifically mention that messing with those broken illegal coils was dangerous in particular?

I totally agree though that the whole monitoring thing just being accepted is kinda weird and only actually justified once you know the secret that they are actively trying to suppress.

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022
There aren't a lot of options if you don't like it though; become an off-the-grid weirdo like Mabuchi and hope you can afford to pay for gasoline or take your chances with illegal coils.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


This is the same guy that drew Darker Than Black right?

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

That Works posted:

This is the same guy that drew Darker Than Black right?

There might be a couple manga versions(I forget), but yeah he did one of them for sure.

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005
Mira is giving Nono a run for the title of cutest anime robot.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Mirage posted:

It's possible that New Tesla may just tell people "We need to monitor your cells or else you will die of Undefined Bad poo poo, seriously you don't want to know, but trust us, it'll be a bad scene" and people go "Oh, okay, definitely don't want that." In the meantime, hey, free energy!

This last episode kinda lost me. I'm torn between going to read the manga to see if any of that stuff made sense, and riding it out in hopes that the story aligns somehow.

If they don't go into specifics people will come up with crazier ideas than your cell phone battery getting cracked in your pocket resulting in a tessellated dick.

Blhue
Apr 22, 2008

Fallen Rib

Serious Frolicking posted:

If they don't go into specifics people will come up with crazier ideas than your cell phone battery getting cracked in your pocket resulting in a tessellated dick.

don't sign your posts

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Blhue posted:

don't sign your posts

I don't think that works very well in this case.

Torquemadras
Jun 3, 2013

Oh no Mira who is a robot that evidently has to shower is attacked during one

Oh no all her robot powers don't work

Oh no she's helpless and has to run away in a towel and probably wear it for all of the next episode

Well, I can't say I'm surprised at this point...

SHAOLIN FUCKFIEND
Jan 21, 2008

I wont defend the fanservice but I gotta say its pretty funny that Mira is so human that she does the "take a shower as brain bleach" thing even though she probably never needs to shower.

madmac
Jun 22, 2010

Torquemadras posted:

Oh no Mira who is a robot that evidently has to shower is attacked during one

If you were a robot and also waterproof why wouldn't you take a shower? No one wants to hang out with a gross dirty robot.

The question you should be asking is if they make special robot soap.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
I'm not sure if the whole situation is just lazy writing or a way to show how coils are so beyond human ken that sticking a (and likely the first and only) self-aware robot in the mix doesn't mean a thing. It is almost certainly the former, but I like the idea of the latter.

Dessel
Feb 21, 2011

Got some Cowboy Bebop vibes from the short fight scene there was in this episode.

I'm also glad the episode answered the most pressing mystery I was wondering throughout the particular scene: The fish was good. Seriously, I couldn't take my eyes off every single time it was visible.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
I figured that legal coils are monitored for location and power output and structural integrity, but I don't think they can inherently scan the environment around them. You need physical cameras for that. Still, I'm pretty sure the higher ups at NTE know Mira is a robot, she's pretty lovely at pretending she is not one. It's just that they value Kyouma and his skills and companions higher to stave off the oncoming apocalypse.

Yeah, I don't think NTE are the actual bad guys here. At least not yet. Corporate entities are maladapted for nightmarish fractal hellscapes.

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005
X X X X X X X X X X

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Mira pretended not to be a robot in episode 2 and then she pretended to be a normal robot in episode 4. NTE knows that she exists, but not that she is anything special. Considering all the time and effort they spent hunting down their founder there is no way they would leave a robot that might have some of his secrets alone. Really, Mira's only advantage is that no one knows that her father even had a robot so no one is even looking for her.

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.

madmac posted:

If you were a robot and also waterproof why wouldn't you take a shower? No one wants to hang out with a gross dirty robot.

The question you should be asking is if they make special robot soap.

This.

Can you imagine the grime that world get accumulated?

Keep your robots clean, people.

Jostiband
May 7, 2007

Rodenthar Drothman posted:

This.

Can you imagine the grime that world get accumulated?

Keep your robots clean, people.

PatlaborOP .gif

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.


inb4 your script links a bunch of porn :v:

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005

AnacondaHL posted:

inb4 your script links a bunch of porn :v:

:confused: While there's certainly porn on pixiv, none of those are links to it.

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

I really like the second picture, it sorta embodies what I like about the motions and movements of Dimension W.

Pavlov
Oct 21, 2012

I've long been fascinated with how the alt-right develops elaborate and obscure dog whistles to try to communicate their meaning without having to say it out loud
Stepan Andreyevich Bandera being the most prominent example of that

Phobophilia posted:

I figured that legal coils are monitored for location and power output and structural integrity, but I don't think they can inherently scan the environment around them. You need physical cameras for that. Still, I'm pretty sure the higher ups at NTE know Mira is a robot, she's pretty lovely at pretending she is not one. It's just that they value Kyouma and his skills and companions higher to stave off the oncoming apocalypse.

Yeah, I don't think NTE are the actual bad guys here. At least not yet. Corporate entities are maladapted for nightmarish fractal hellscapes.

Blond dude says that to make a robot commit murder, you have to use an illegal coil.

"Make sure to only use Energizer batteries when breaking the law. The Duracell ones are sapient and will just shut off."

Zettace
Nov 30, 2009

SHAOLIN FUCKFIEND posted:

I wont defend the fanservice but I gotta say its pretty funny that Mira is so human that she does the "take a shower as brain bleach" thing even though she probably never needs to shower.
Do you wash your car? Just because she's not human doesn't mean she doesn't get dirty.

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.

Zettace posted:

Do you wash your car? Just because she's not human doesn't mean she doesn't get dirty.

I mean, I'm not gonna lie - she's super cute and I appreciate a little service now and then. Da cutest robot.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Rodenthar Drothman posted:

I mean, I'm not gonna lie - she's super cute and I appreciate a little service now and then. Da cutest robot.

This didn't exactly feel the right time for it, though. The camera going 'look how sexy the robot is' when she was getting dragged into the world of loving Event Horizon was just a wee bit uncomfortable. Like, I get that they were trying to use nudity as a signifier for vulnerability, but there are ways to do that without zooming in on a character's T&A every chance you get.

Happy, safe fanservice is best fanservice.

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Dryer Lint
May 17, 2010

Biggest most lovable jerk on the internet.
:sun:
Pretty sure you gently caress mothers stole that antenna ear design from my homeboy Chappie.



Don't make me have to do crimes.

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