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wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

Mr. Lobe posted:

I guess the lesson is, don't get old, folks

my dream is to be purged young

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wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
but how does the AI feel about trotskyism

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
Number one: that’s terror

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
Modern trotskyist organizations seem to be much more active on social media and doing a better job of radicalization/engaging with the zoomers.

Are the divisions irreparable enough to prevent the organization of a new popular front in a western country lacking proportional representation? Thinking specifically of the French communists organizing the Leftist Front in 2012 with a dozen other parties as an example. Maybe I don’t understand the modern Trotsky platform well enough, although I guess they were weakened in recent years by the split leading to the international socialist alternative.

At a minimum and first step im not sure why more minority anti capitalist parties in the anglo sphere don’t coordinate to avoid running candidates in the same districts.

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

apropos to nothing posted:

ill try to answer some of this since you mention SA, lotta words though:

so in SA here in the US for decades weve been calling for a mass workers party. have never viewed ourselves as being that party, but that we would join such a party and call on others to do the same and work together and debate issues and ideas within it. would be something akin to a US labor party or hopefully something beyond even that, but core principles being independent class politics. weve worked with and supported/endorsed DSA candidates even who run as dems though we strongly disagree with this, greens, other independent candidates running, etc. not at all sectarian about it. this isnt a popular front though its a united front, popular front would be working within the democratic or liberal parties to defeat conservatives which we disagree with. its also not where most of our time and effort is spent. a lot of people think because we ran kshama and won that thats all we care about but her race and the handful of others were more to demonstrate that it is possible to run and to win independently from the dems on a socialist platform, and then once won how those offices can be used by class struggle candidates regardless of whatever org theyre a member of. its actually something we have to disabuse a lot of people of when they first are interested in joining because they think all we focus on is getting people elected and its like maybe 10% of where our time is spent. back during occupy we made the call to run 100 occupy candidates around the country and kshama was one candidate we ran to again, demonstrate how socialists could do this successfully. we also dont run candidates against other independent candidates when we do run, but its true weve had some do that to us like in minneapolis when we ran giger jentzen and the green party ran a candidate to the right of her to try to split left votes and clear a path for the dem candidates. even despite that which pissed all of us off immensely, weve still endorsed howie hawkins in the general election this year. have had other candidates and orgs which we have endorsed despite disagreements like that, it sucks but gotta keep eyes on the prize and no time for backbiting.

thanks for taking the time to clarify that part of SA for me, I wasn't entirely clear on the distinction made there between a mass workers party and being an advocacy group that would support a mass workers party if needed.

I'm not an american and not familiar enough with the organization and work done to support and consolidate leftist wins for workers in the US. Direct action gets more results and improvements for workers than through the ballot box.

In my mind I was thinking of Canada specifically, where any vote further left than the social democrat NDP ends up being fractured at both the federal and provincial levels between several different political parties without proportional representation. I used the wrong terminology as well, I was thinking of a united front rather than a popular front. Do you happen to know if the canadian branch of SA follows a similar philosophy? The communist parties in Canada haven't elected any candidates in 50 years and i've been wondering why they aren't more involved in supporting class conscious candidates at the local level.

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

Malkina_ posted:

Lenin was too good for this world.

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

Malkina_ posted:

How amusing is it that bumfuck North Korea is going to outlive America lol

:d2a:

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

THS posted:

im gay

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
did lenin ever project in his writings though?

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

apropos to nothing posted:

so you just dont eat any sodium the next day at all and it evens out. simple.

bing bong, why not done?

I burned myself on the chicken bun last time I ate one

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

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T-man posted:

all the good posters became cspamers

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

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T-man posted:

no he's giving you advice on the meaning of fatherhood via misremembered Kant quotes

but enough about the only kind of Kant quotes there are

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

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T-man posted:

why are most MLs so much like liberals? can someone give me a six paragraph answer? tia

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

:swoon:

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
and all leftists can post as much as they want

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

GalacticAcid posted:

Grover Furrsuit

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

T-man posted:

how do you do fellow tankies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH1QKqT9y6c

let's discuss anime

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

T-man posted:

ive never actually. seen the show i just wanted to Post

approximately how many sexy lenins are in it

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
Lump it up, lump it in, let us begin
we came to win, profiting that’s a sin

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
that’s only because multinationals are kept in line by a robust (though shallow) set of laws.

Choosing to obey those laws and outsourcing both protection and governance to the relevant national authority is cheaper for the capitalists at the moment than hiring/training/maintaining their own private McMarines

they have the resources and capabilities, but it has to be interesting to their bottom line

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

Victory Position posted:

sometimes I think about the standing armies that Coca-Cola and Nestlé have

are they internal standing armies or just standing contracts with specialists like Securitas or Pinkertons?

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

T-man posted:

you can never alienate a goon from the means of producing bad takes

:elongate:

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

i say swears online posted:

congrats to this thread for lasting longer than thomas sankara's rule in burkina faso

yikes

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

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Shear Modulus posted:

marx pursued the highest practice: posting

Marx is a load bearing post

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

Comrade Koba posted:

“what is to be bapped?”

-v.i. lenin

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
smh everyone knows you gotta follow up the eggplant with a meaty taco and some tongues just shameful performance compared to JIM

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

a Loving Dog posted:

they should ban everyone with over 10 posts

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
is that target being revised with the american empire being in decline

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

gradenko_2000 posted:

[bernie panders]

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

Finicums Wake posted:


[Marukusu bōi]


approximately how many sexy lenins are in this anime

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

indigi posted:

I don’t even really understand how that’ll help the economy beyond maybe getting the US to ease some sanctions. is that the only goal?

some people will get mega rich off bankrupting state companies and maybe what trickles down will be more than piss this time

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
excuse me, but I think you’ll find that this visual summary of all 3 volumes by David Harvey will answer all your questions

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

:chanpop:

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
need experienced supply planners to make sure your factories and factory complexes are receiving the right market signals without killing your consumers, your economy or your environment

a good factory manager will make wrong decisions if they’re getting the wrong inputs (like making high margin items instead of basic consumer items despite rampant market shortages)

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
what is the mod pov on free hong kong

want to make sure I know what I’m supposed to be uncritically supporting

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wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

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