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Loling at the fact that no one is using this thread for what it was made for because the PSL is awful
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Homework Explainer posted:no it turned into the usual rolling out of the anticom arguments just like any time actually existing socialism is brought up itf. the psl is fine though the leadership is pretty stodgy and set in its ways stody and set in it's way are really really bad for leadership and like 50% of the reason why there are like 200 leftist group instead of like 3 (anarchists,revolutionaries,reformist)
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Jan 28, 2016 00:48
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team overhead smash posted:The only thing is that there are like a dozen variations of socialism so that's not the one true version of socialism or anything and someone else could come along and give a different answer that was also totally legitimate.
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Jan 29, 2016 07:37
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rudatron posted:Well there's certainly a valid argument about the 'meaning of words', and normally I'd be all on the side of purely descriptive w.r.t to use - if a word is used by the majority of people to mean one thing, but it historically meant something different, I'd go with the current meaning every time. Problem is, the word socialism only changed definition because of a political program meant to explicitly link welfare programs to a non-capitalist economies. The fact that this has kind of back-fired means I am in absolutely no rush to invent new words, or change definitions. I say keep using the word socialism, for strategic reasons. But of course it's important to talk to people in the ways they understand. Starting from a foundation of 'democratic economics' , labor creating value, I think these words translate the correct message. Best part about this is since Americans have basically no connection to any kind of hard left politics starting Socialism from government run programs and mass collective action gives Americans a fresh slate to work with. You don't have the baggage of people thinking socialism can only be done one way and you completely bypass all the dumb anarchist/socialist/communist infighting that plagues the rest of the world. I'm cool with it Capitalism changed what it was, Fascism is changing what it is (Trump) and well gotta keep up.
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Feb 28, 2016 10:23
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The Saurus posted:He obviously is the bad guy. Illegal immigrants still annoy me because of my personal experiences, but I want the bosses and ruling class to get whats coming to them and they're certainly the originators of all the shittiness. Literally everyone here agrees about that though, so what's the point of discussing it on here? Go back to Britain,see it's not racist because I have white friends
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Mar 6, 2016 18:31
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Another reference for the left really needs to go back to the drawing board and can't just count on voting in parties 3rd party or otherwise theory tonight. I seriously don't know what the hell to do all the socialist parties near me and in my home state are/was on some dumb poo poo. Tempted to do it myself no clue where to start.
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