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Pener Kropoopkin posted:LOL it's so great to live in a system where people can be nutritionally starved, and yet still grow obese and develop severe health complications. LMAO loving LOOOOOL. What nutrients, exactly, are Americans deprived of?
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Jewel Repetition posted:Well to be fair there are actually a few things Americans don't get enough of like potassium and omega 3s. Do you want to argue that shortages of potassium and omega-3 in american diets have a major detrimental effect on the population's health?
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Jan 23, 2016 01:25
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The ability of people to access the food is only one element of the problem, although it is the one most immediately concerning because millions of people are still technically starving, even if their caloric intake is met. Technically starving according to who?
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Jan 23, 2016 01:29
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Yudo posted:Also, we keep bringing the pesky millions murdered by the USSR, Democratic Kampuchea, China, DPRK et al. because it evidences that the theory you are espousing is poo poo. The stalinists in the thread have already clearly shown that those tens of millions were killed by natural causes, not manmade ones, and if they were manmade it was an accident, not on purpose, and anyway even if they did it on purpose capitalists did it first. I think the facts are clear, here.
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Jan 23, 2016 08:53
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Here's a softball: what's your take on the mid-80s famines in the communist countries of Mozambique and Ethiopia? The latter of which, notoriously, involved the central government intentionally starving recalcitrant provinces. Would you argue that those countries would be better off if they were still under communist rule?
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team overhead smash posted:2) Due the lack of an international socialist revolution in industrialised countries, Capitalism has always been the dominant global force and the 'communist' states existed within a Capitalist system. Both were snowed under by debt and stripped of their ability to generate income at the same time as the famines hit (because they're of course primarily agrarian countries). It seems like the endpoint of this argument is that any and all of communist states' failings can be blamed on capitalism. A hypothetical global communist regime would be so different from recorded history as to be incomparable, so really, we can't say anything about communism at all.
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