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[screams the N-word on the bus repeatedly and passes a note] "I'm sorry, I have a condition"
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Excuse me, but what unit did you serve in the antifa corps?
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May 13, 2021 21:04
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The last thing we need in this thread is a stolen valor sicko.
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May 13, 2021 21:07
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Wasn't infrastructure literally the only thing he succeeded at? Not really. Hitler gets credit for the autobahn when the Nazi regime mostly just expanded an already existing system. The Nazis always had logistical problems because they could only plan for short and decisive wars. The internal party conflicts also prevented Speer from being able to take direct control of all military production until 1943. Any kind of digging beneath the surface level reveals that the Nazi system of government was extremely dysfunctional, and only became powerful because they brute forced all their problems.
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May 13, 2021 22:47
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Finicums Wake posted:so, how about that communism thing, huh? imo it's good but we need to pass through a socialist stage first They call me the leaper 'cuz i don't believe in interstitial steps
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May 13, 2021 23:24
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Ardennes posted:Also, a large percentage of the workforce was engaged in arms manufacturing which helped offset unemployment and price controls were implemented which were popular for a while until supply issues started come up. However, by the time of the Anschluss they were already starting to run out of reserves. If anything constant annexation was necessary to keep the system going. The Nazi war machine was primarily powered by looting. Loot & slaves. They depopulated entire villages as "volunteer" laborers for the munitions factories. Trabisnikof posted:legit tho, like seems like we need one world government now more than ever. Y'all ever notice how evangelicals hate one world government because of the antichrist, but love Israel because it will bring the reign of the antichrist? Talk about confused priorities.
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lumpentroll posted:more like peter kropotkin YOU TAKE THAT BACK!
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May 14, 2021 02:16
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Centrist Committee posted:no liberals by and large can’t think dialectically, they see poo poo like senate norms and believe with all of their being that they represent some kind of eternal truth. Most people don't think about objects in terms of their relations either. A dialectical thinker looks at a commodity and is aware of all the interactions & labor that brought it before them, but for most people those relations are concealed behind an abstraction like "the market."
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May 14, 2021 08:05
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I got something to expose to the bourgeoisie RIGHT HERE [grabs crotch]
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May 14, 2021 10:12
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ASAPRockySituation posted:A question to the thread: a quote by Lenin is fairly frequently bandied about that Socialists are unable to expose the bourgeoisie of another nation they are at war with. Do you feel that Lenin would suppose we are at war with other nations in this culture/exploitation cold war we find ourselves in? I believe he would not beyond the class war that all nations’ peoples are united in, knowingly or not. Lenin's point is that "exposing the bourgeoisie of another country" amounts to little more than "imperialist intrigue." It doesn't matter if you expose the corrupt dealings of a foreign bourgeois because it does not serve the overthrow of your own bourgeois dictatorship, and it only serves to make the foreign bourgeois seem an enemy to your own people - which serves the imperialist ambitions of your own national bourgeois. Lenin would have noticed just how much self-identified Leftists seem to be obsessed way more with Chinese billionaires than attacking their own. Being a real internationalist means attacking your own bourgeois as part of a process of decolonization and anti-imperialism, not attacking a foreign bourgeois in a country where you have no political power. Pener Kropoopkin fucked around with this message at 10:33 on May 14, 2021 |
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THS posted:what He's talking about this https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/dec/25.htm
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May 14, 2021 10:31
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ASAPRockySituation posted:I appreciate this answer as it well describes the feeling of the quote, though I wonder if agitation towards more proletariat power in a foreign nation through exposure wouldn’t be warring against local western imperialist hegemony in its own way. Certainly the US and Soviets thought so, at the least in terms of access to resources, else Vietnam et al wouldn’t have played out as it did, yeah? The Soviets could do this because they already had a proletarian dictatorship. The liberation struggle in Vietnam was also a direct anti-imperialist struggle and not just a struggle against their own national bourgeois for class liberation. The proletarian government of North Vietnam already existed, and the only thing stopping it from liberating the country was France and the United States.
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May 14, 2021 11:49
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It's not just pointless it's actively assisting the propaganda aims of the US State department.
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May 14, 2021 14:19
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Jordan Proletarian: you better get your own house sorted out before you go tryin to start workers' revolutions somewhere else, bucko
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May 14, 2021 14:31
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You know what we mean when we're talking about being preoccupied with foreign affairs. It's not hard to see how the "leftist" obsession with Xinjiang is anti-dialectical because it keeps coming up over and over again by repeating imperialist propaganda.
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May 14, 2021 15:46
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Like, the main propagandistic utility of repeating the allegations against China is that it serves a broader narrative of colonialist antagonism. Xinjiang isn't "just" Xinjiang, it's (allegedly) a model for the world that China will force upon everyone in the absence of American hyperpower.
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May 14, 2021 15:49
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Ferrinus posted:"it doesn't matter from where we're standing, we should mind our own business" can be a useful way of skipping what you've judged will be an unproductive discussion or shutting up someone who'd be even more reactionary if engaged but it's not really a winning proposition in the long term. imagine someone trying to say that to you about israel, for instance (this is harder if you're in the states since israel is so much more your "fault" in that case but it's not like discussing the i/p issue should be off limits otherwise) All first world countries collaborate with Israeli colonialism.
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May 14, 2021 17:32
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It's easy to have a political line on Israel/Palestine because there's a clear government policy that can be targeted which supports Israeli colonialism, like how the US unconditionally forks over billions in military and economic aid every year. What is the political line going to be on the US's relationship to China? That there should be sanctions?
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May 14, 2021 17:44
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mila kunis posted:fund al qaeda in east turkestan lol Really if we're talking about exposing foreign bourgeoisie the more appropriate example is Russia. Like, you could go on and on about how corrupt and exploitative Russian oligarchs are but that also supports an environment which encourages the United States placing sanctions on the Russian bourgeoisie with the premise that this will somehow help liberate the common Russian or make them more liberal - or that it will somehow pre-empt alleged Russian interference in American politics. It's textbook imperialist intrigue. The Russian oligarchy isn't any more corrupt or exploitative than the American one. They're no more criminal.
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proof of work? sounds communist
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Ferrinus posted:this is actually all a really good example of undialectical thinking and the fetish character that things acquire under bourgeois ideology, where an object or symbol is imagined to have some sort of intrinsic value and power of its own rather than just being the end-effect of some concrete social relation I admire how much this keeps things on topic.
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:sorry stalin is bad now Stalin was 70% right and 30% wrong. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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