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StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

what actually defines 'hoxhaism' as opposed to like any other school of thought other than bunker memes

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StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

if anyone wants to see a translation for that east german cop guide on spotting youth subcultures here it is:





im either the punk Deacons or the mohawk (iroqouis)

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Graphic posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTrotskyists/comments/9knuuo/why_is_there_no_discussion_of_the_icfi_and_the/

they're a laughingstock even among Trots. Also apparently David North is a millionaire CEO with an non-union workforce.

i don't think I've ever come across anyone on the leftist internet that likes them*. their support base seems entirely made up of an army of bot accounts, there's tons of accounts that do nothing but retweet only WSWS and SEP.

* - apart from WSWS' own comment section I should say, which is pretty hilarious to read. it's like they're pretending their post is being red on a soap box at a 1920s secret party rally.

they were the ones that ran the "kavanaugh is an imperialist tool but lets not accuse him of rape" take right

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Yeah I was initially dismissive but then a while back it turned out one of their or people was buds with Spencer so yeah

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


Come for the "anti immigration activists are Nazis" stay for the "anti immigration activists are ZPG types"

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Big props to the guy talking about communist atrocities and posting that famous picture of an arvn officer executing a Vietcong guerilla

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Yeah it's an article from October talking about (but not linking) an interview with the intercept where he said just that- America should ideally help the Kurds but lol @ expecting America to do something good

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

yeah the last time we propped up communists it was the khmer rouge

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

I've always liked the conspiracy theory that stirner didnt exist and was just made up by engles to wind marx up

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Karl Barks posted:

Merry Christmas you communist bastards


Kropotkin posted:

On the night before Christmas, we’ll all be about
While the people are sleeping, we’ll realise our clout
We’ll expropriate goods from the stores, ‘cos that’s fair
And distribute them widely, to those who need care.
Merry Christmas

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Karl Barks posted:

Tbf, the Soviets did have some issues with art and censorship, especially during the era of socialist realism which ultimately spread to other countries. It's a topic that's really never talked about on the left anymore, since I'd imagine censoring art isn't a big priority right now.

I thought our main goal was taking titties out of video games?

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Uphold peter watts thought

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Happy 60th anniversary of cuban revolution

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Ah so the problem is no one wants to hang out with whiskeyjuvenile

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


lol

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Mr. Lobe posted:

what the hell is this

is this sincere art critique?

is this seriously art arpwel made?

is arpwel really being depicted as the face of disability because of some well-meaning but clueless mark?

every question invites another question and I do not like it one bit

@Joke skold

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Was it good? Premise looked great but I heard it was kinda ehh

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Does anyone have a good book, article or effortpost about how the concept of 'private property' developed? Not the actual property itself, but the idea that some land is yours, not on permanent loan from the king (which tbh is an idea I could be wrong about)

E: i guess specifically what I want to know is in pre-capitalist Europe how much was your ability to own land restricted by birth

StashAugustine fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Feb 3, 2019

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Was listening to a discussion on why America doesn't have a labor/socialist party amd one of the minor causes they mentioned was that America tended to be more repressive of labor movements in part due to the legacy of slavery, where even hints of dissent had to be squashed immediately to prevent revolt. Is this a thesis thats been talked about by people other than podcast randos?

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

turn off the TV posted:

The US not having a solid political left probably has a lot more to do with the fact that the government actively suppressed it through violence and the fact that our political system is designed to be a two party state that over represents wealth.

Well the argument here is that this is that rhe legacy of slavery is one of the reasons thia happened. There was plenty of state and private repression that supported slavery- laws against abolitionist speech culminating in federal censorship via the post office, lynchings of abolitionists, etc. This paranoid mindset (so the argument goes) led to more paranoia about labor unrest in general.

(Disclamers: have no opinion on the arguments truth, it was presented as a minor reason among the other ones mentioned here, obviously racialized repression was way worse and more common)

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

I bring it up in part because one of the things that opened me up to leftism was reading a history of antebellum slavery politics and seeing up close the ruling class at its most diseased, and how less virulent strains of the mindset continues on. There was one guy who wrote a book in why slavery is actually good for the slaves who briefly mentioned that of course this doesn't go for whites bevause they're more civilized and we can juat send them off to live on the frontier- but Europe doesn't have a frontier, so maybe they oughta look into enslaving their workers.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


Lol I opened the forst article and he's making GBS threads on The Economist for going on about states rights. Plus ca change

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Larry Parrish posted:

it is for this reason that we must expand into space and build the orbital mirror arrays. the sun itself will be the shield of socialism

This is pretty much the conclusion of the altered carbon trilogy

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

That is some real pins and string crazytown poo poo there lol

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

i guess richard morgan? he kind of veers into edgy 15 year old sometimes tho

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Microcline posted:

Mieville

Perdido Street Station is probably his best book but each one in the Bas-Lag cycle gets less about fantasy and more about revolution until he just wrote a non-fiction narrative history of the Russian Revolution

(He also wrote Embassytown if you like sci-fi books that are half as long and don't repeatedly use the word "lasciviously")

yeah i should try PSS again, i couldn't get into it but iron council sounds cool. i did like the city & the city which is less overwritten but the marxist stuff is mostly background

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

What org is that?

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

the mud helped too

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Cerebral Bore posted:

They run fine until you realize that the country you're invading has a different track gauge than the one that you're using. Which is still one of the funniest refutations of the whole hypercompetent German army myth - motherfuckers didn't even bother checking something that obvious.

technically they did realize this and had labor battalions to tear up and regauge the tracks. what they forgot was that wider gauge = bigger locomotive = more fuel capacity = longer gaps between refueling stations. and it turns out refueling stations are kinda hard to build

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


Proudhon or bakunin?

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

Marx is most readable when he's just mocking other writers he hates. Especially in the manuscripts of 1844 he gets so worked up about political economists

Yeah the 1844 manuscripts are surprisingly readable for unedited jumbled essays that are 30% adam smith block quotes

Ruzihm posted:

bakunin was a horrible anti-semite, so that reflects mostly on mutualists/collectivists. But was Kropotkin an anti-semite? I thought anarcho communists mostly took to his literature.

IIRC kropotkin was actually pretty good on the issue

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Stahel's book on the drive on Moscow has some accounts of "human waves" haopening but only in the case of encircled units who were gonna end up in a concentration camp anyway

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Engels doodled topless women in the margins of his books so I'm thinking he's more of a lock for that

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

We can get whiskeyjuvenile to do it, he's already got a maid to knock up

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Turing police is gonna die when the boeing gets hacked by wintermute

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

The end goal is to abolish their power, if they wont play ball (which most probably won't) then you have trouble. If you just go around knocking off random capitalists you're not gonna get much done

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Dreddout posted:

Idk they banned jacking off

Thats how they beat ISIS

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

The problem is assuming that breaking up private property isnt worth doing because of the gig economy

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Hey since I just finished revolutions coverage of Mexico and yesterday was the 100th anniversary of zapata's death: how do Marxists think about land reform movements ? I know applying communism to agrarian peasants was Mao's deal but idk what he or anyone wrote aboit it

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StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Everyone says they'd vote for generic stalin but when you give them an actual stalin on the ballot they just stay home

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