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They may have miscalculated their audience by having black people in the movie.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2019 13:01 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 18:05 |
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Serf posted:i have friends who describe themselves as anarcho-communists and i just want to help them understand I listened to the revleft radio episode on common arguments against communism, every host described themselves as anarcho-communists but their viewpoints seemed to be just good old-fashioned communism.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2019 15:36 |
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Dreddout posted:Idk they banned jacking off Source?
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2019 06:04 |
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Lenin's vice was the occasional beer, and cats.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2019 14:21 |
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I live in one of those places and I think it's fine that Americans think it's socialism. That makes people open to the idea so their brains don't just immediately shut down when the word socialism comes up.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2019 18:24 |
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Serf posted:the more advanced conservatives have learned from this argument and open up with "the scandinavian countries aren't socialist" That's when you say "ok, then let's try what they're doing".
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2019 21:06 |
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Missed the degrowth discussion but I have to recommend reading Leigh Phillips, specifically his book Austerity Ecology and the Collapse Porn Addicts. It turned me around completely on the concept of degrowth.
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# ¿ May 18, 2019 03:52 |
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Oh yeah lol. Their book together is also fantastic.
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# ¿ May 18, 2019 05:15 |
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That didn't go so well in Yugoslavia.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2019 07:38 |
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Just got this book and am reading it: I like the cut of the author's jib (and it's only about a hundred pages long so perfect for my broken, podcast-addled brain). I've been used to thinking that no one ever changes their mind because of arguments but I think the author has a point that as much as it never happens that people change their minds "in the room" as you ANNIHILATE their brainholes, after an incubation period it might make them rethink some things as it simmers in the back of their heads. It's also got some concrete examples of arguments that make no sense, and some excerpts from Shapiro's book on owning the left so you can spot if somebody's read his book and are trying that out on you.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2019 17:13 |
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Finicums Wake posted:the last popular book about logic and politics i have heard about was stefan molyneux's, which couldnt even get the definitions of validity and soundness right. so im glad someone who seems to have a background in philosophy/logic is trying to write a decent book on the topic. i just found this podcast featuring an i terview about the book. posting it here in case anyone else wants to listen There is a lot of good stuff from Zero Books, both books and podcasts. Really recommend checking them out if you're starved for theory that isn't 50+ years old. A good place to start is their Youtube channel, their videos are kind of trippy and hard to follow at first since it's made by philosophers but if I can get something out of it I think anyone can.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2019 18:11 |
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Bernie is lord.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2019 19:12 |
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quote:You may have come across communist memes on social media. The man, the meme, the legend behind this trend is Karl Marx, who developed the theory of communism, which advocates for workers’ control over their labor (instead of their bosses). The political philosopher turned 200-years-old on May 5, but his ideas can still teach us about the past and present. The man, the meme,
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2019 17:39 |
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Technology brought us here but it's going to have to be the way out too. The problem isn't that we have technology, it's that under capitalism it will only be used for profit with no regard to the harm it causes and of course with no breaks.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2019 07:28 |
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We're doomed.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2019 13:43 |
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Flowers For Algeria posted:luv 2 see marxists attacking on aesthetic issues an ideology that is actually scientific
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 06:55 |
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Degrowth is just austerity and capitalist realism because in a rational economy new technologies that let you produce more with less would mean you produce as much as needed with less, instead of just producing a lot more for profit.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 09:52 |
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If you see Marx walking on the road, send him to gulag.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2019 09:03 |
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Salute the flag!
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2019 11:59 |
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The Citations Needed guys may not have the best material analysis but I feel like that'd still be a very good podcast to recommend to normy friends if only because so many people are stuck in this mindset that "market forces" are as immutable and inevitable as forces of nature, that capitalism is "just the economy working normally" (actual quote from someone I've talked to) and that there's some sort of rhyme or reason to mass lay-offs that isn't just the interests of one specific class. Even bringing this problem up in a way which isn't immediately alienating and full of jargon is likely to get gears turning and lead to further exploration.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2019 09:42 |
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Percelus posted:is that code for start probating/banning any communists or posters to the left of them? Yes.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2019 20:54 |
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Finicums Wake posted:i prove my morality through posting/empty quoting etc
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2019 07:48 |
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Steve-O Zizek
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2019 09:35 |
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I thought kombucha was the official drink of neoliberalism. At least the silicon valley type.
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2019 13:17 |
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I was listening to the podcast Swampside Chats the other day and they said something offhandedly about how telling it is that racists are fine with voting for the libcuck Yang in exchange for $1000 a month.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2019 07:23 |
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They didn't say he was masterminding it though, they agreed it wasn't a genocide, it was caused by the Bolsheviks but not intentionally to kill Ukrainians. That jives well with what I learned when I took a university course on the Stalin era a few years ago.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2019 19:09 |
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2019 20:32 |
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I listened to a podcast with a british volunteer, he said bookchin's influence there has been very overstated.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2019 17:19 |
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Lenin was banking heavily on the Germans having a communist revolution. It was never meant to be Russia against the world.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2019 07:23 |
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https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1206623352959451137
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2019 12:23 |
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I think I might be getting Phenomenology of Spirit for Christmas, looking forward to the ghost.I can't remember where but I heard in some podcast that the key to understanding Hegel is to take things more literally than what would be your first instinct, so I suppose it's a real ghost.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2019 16:06 |
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Doing the important work of arguing about theory with the fellas.
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2019 20:40 |
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That Don Hughes, always makes me laugh!
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2020 18:02 |
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She's right.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2020 17:45 |
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:That's what's funny. The core point about capitalism creating the conditions for a post scarcity society is so anodyne that she has to dress it up in this sneering contrarianism to make a splash online. Then why are the responses of most of the people in this thread indistinguishable from those of the extremely hyphenated crowd replying to that thread?
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2020 18:23 |
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freckle posted:what She didn't say anything basically wrong.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2020 18:32 |
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It's a minute long sound byte and I disagree that it's not a worryingly common mistake to make Marxism out to be a kind of anti-consumerism, which is what she's arguing against. Libcom's reply would be apt if she'd been repeating the old feudalism to capitalism to communism as a theory of history canard which she does not. Homeless Friend posted:To me, she's conflating Marxism with Marx. Something the man himself literally made fun of. Acting like his personal opines on modern consumerism 150 years removed will remain highly relevant is laughable. Marx was prescient but not a god. Life under Capitalism sucks in many ways but there are some things that definitely don't suck and we sound like spoiled contrarians when we don't acknowledge that. She's really speaking to the people who are unfamiliar with Marxism here and think it's just people complaining about consumerism. Grevling fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Feb 11, 2020 |
# ¿ Feb 11, 2020 18:50 |
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Bryter posted:She is invoking the strawman of accelerationist Marx, which relies on that theory I'm just not getting that from the video at all.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2020 19:00 |
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:Her frame of "some people read Marx as a primitivist" is both pretty dubious and cedes a lot of rhetorical ground to anticommunists, who should never be taken seriously as authorities on Marx. Yeah she might have given some examples, but it's really just a short clip here. She might be thinking about some strains of ecosocialism maybe. Imo anything that's going to get new people to engage with Marx is a positive and one of the biggest hurdles is probably to dispel some of the misconceptions people have about him since so few people bother to read him. I get the sense that many people's idea of Marx and communism more similar to the kind of people he would fight against ("barracks communism" and so on), and in that sense saying Marx was a great admirer of Capitalism while maybe reductive could be a good way to break some of the preconceived notions people have so they might actually become interested.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2020 19:19 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 18:05 |
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Revolution, dictatorship of the proletariat yeah yeah. More importantly I'm horny???
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