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anybody read Against the Grain? or do anarchists get purged in this thread
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Karl Barks posted:incorrect, anarchist's goal is a pre-cellular society. we need to get rid of cilia as a first step i mean say what you will about free-floating RNA dude, at least it's an ethos
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Apr 2, 2019 19:19
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's exactly like liberalism. Something that sounds good in a vacuum, "everyone is equal together within the social unit," but in practice gives rise to all sorts of inequities that breeds resentment. You can say you've overcome jealousy and possession all you like, but people can intuitively tell when they're being treated unfairly. youre edging closer to incel "redistribution of sex" talk here fam
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Apr 4, 2019 16:42
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Flavius Aetass posted:seems a bit non-materialist to be so married to the "founding fathers" of communism that you don't see the need to adapt the message to a modern audience materialism is when you cite dusty 19th-century academics like scripture, and the more academics you cite, the more materialist it is
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Apr 4, 2019 17:15
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:it doesn’t take a genius to recognize that an asymmetric polycule is inherently unequal. all social networks are asymmetric, that's not an argument not to have them
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Apr 4, 2019 18:05
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Larry Parrish posted:I know people in poly relationships that are drama free but its mostly because they work too much to have any kind of actual relationship beyond loving sometimes, which really isn't selling the concept to me. Also gently caress off, not being jealous or possessive isn't some kind of special concept only people who self-describe as poly can have lol yeah people whose whole identity is "im poly" are really loving weird and generally some variant of silicon-valley stemlord. i have a few old acquaintances like that and they're really uncomfortable to be around at this point i don't object to the prospect of multiple romantic relationships though. they're definitely more work / coordination to maintain healthily, but i don't see that as a reason to not have them. especially if the alternative is, like, loveless marriages with mutual cheating
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Apr 4, 2019 18:23
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:You can think of it even in terms of a polycule. A network where everyone shares each other is symmetrical, but a network where one person is shared by everyone but everyone else doesn't really share in each other the same way is asymmetrical. The more complex this kind of relationship becomes, the harder it is to keep things equitable. sure, but symmetric social networks don't really exist. even a friendship between two people is asymmetric in the sense that each person gives and take different things; that's what makes a good friendship. what you have to do is actively work to flatten power dynamics that emerge, not just pretend they'll never happen e: Pener Kropoopkin posted:Recognizing something is problematic isn't the same thing as saying it can never work. i guess i don't see poly relationships as inherently problematic animist fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Apr 4, 2019 |
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Apr 4, 2019 18:31
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:what is it with radical religious and political movements and trying to twist that into letting you have 20 wives i want 20 husbands actually
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Apr 4, 2019 18:44
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Being able to recognize the problems inherent to a monogamous relationship, while insisting poly relationships aren't inherently problematic is intellectually dishonest. oh if you count monogamous relationships as also "problematic" then i don't actually disagree. i was just saying it's not fair to mark poly relationships as "problematic" and not mark other relationships the same way. so i think we're on the same page Pener Kropoopkin posted:Saying "symmetrical social networks have never existed" isn't just untrue, but it's no different in sentiment from saying communism has never existed and can't work. sure, i'd say a perfectly equitable society has never and will never exist. that's doesn't mean we shouldn't strive for it. it's a question of degree; societies can be more or less equitable, and we need to push towards equitable as hard as we can, even if there will always be inequalities that emerge and need to be smoothed out
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Apr 4, 2019 18:50
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gently caress my wife... please
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Apr 4, 2019 20:00
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trying to think of a joke where the punchline is "hegelian diuretic"
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Apr 6, 2019 15:57
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i would like to formally apologize for ever doubting the leadership of stalin and the light of historical materialism
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indigi posted:people say this kind of stuff all the time but then when you look at opinion polls for more generally lefty issues (i.e. universal healthcare) there's majority support for it, sometimes overwhelming support among Dems and independents. idk how to reconcile that though i mean i think people often have surprisingly lefty views, but they understand the world through the lenses provided by capital. so they get diverted into electoralism, or teaching underprivileged kids to code, or whatever there also really is a huge generational divide. imo its the combination of generational poverty, changes in the education system, and exposure to lefty agitprop online. not that there's a zoomer vanguard or whatever but i think younger people really are a lot more able to hear and internalize leftist arguments. Ardennes posted:It goes to back to fact that the current Western elite refuses any deviation period including on climate change. any deviation on anything really. gotta extract that surplus value
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Aug 13, 2020 21:41
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in conclusion, the ussr was a land of contrasts
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/JoseMariaSison/status/1364310562235162624?s=19 good for him
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i say swears online posted:we need more MBAs what a snipe
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i used to think that general AI was a fantasy but having worked in AI/ML for a few years I'm less sure. Not because ML has its poo poo together, but because it doesn't. We're basically just throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks, and everything seems to stick. The algorithms we have have no reason to work as well as they do, and yet they learn some surprisingly general stuff from the random data we throw at them. so idk, I don't think "sentient AI" is entirely out of question this century. but if it does happen I'd bet it'll be by mistake, after like 2070, when we've had decades of 3D AI chip engineering going and can just throw massive amounts of computation at the problem. that's assuming we can keep chip fabrication going all century tho and hoo boy that's an assumption.
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the recent Radio War Nerd talked about zenz' (zenz's? idk) books where he cites literal visions from god as his reason for doing things in life. and not like abstract god vibes, he literally thinks he talked to Jesus and Jesus told him to protect Tibet -- wait, no, not Tibet anymore, that propaganda push kinda petered out, now we're doing Xinjiang. the man's standards of evidence aren't exactly in line with baseline social reality, is what I'm saying. that being said I do think that bad poo poo is probably going down in Xinjiang. but all the coverage of it is happening for a reason: the MIC wants to gently caress with China and kick off new interventions, and Xinjiang is a good a place to start as any. anyway looking forward to quoting that post "we're not going to war with China" when we go to war with China animist fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Mar 10, 2021 |
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DanteDevils posted:I honestly believe communism is dead as an ideology altogether in the era of 21st century capitalist surveillance states. Techno-capitalism is basically invincible. The history of communism is fun to read about, though. Marxist analysis of the present is always interesting, too. source yr quotes
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really enjoyed that Red Sails piece from a few pages back. this might not be the right thread for this, but I keep thinking about Alan Moore's definition of "magic" in From Hell, as "intentional engagement with different aspects of consciousness". Sometimes that lines up with "religion", i.e. it becomes sponsored by some aspect of the ruling economic system. In other cases it doesn't. It occurs to me that Marxism, real Marxism, can be thought of a form of "black magic". That is to say, it is a slightly mysterious form of engagement with the world, involving a mixture of intuitive and logical behavior, which is forbidden by the established economic structure due to its perceived destabilizing power. Marxism can also be thought of as a rich and detailed technical subject, like engineering, poetry, or music. Like any technical subject, it has its own jargon; the lexicon of revolutionaries. "Capital", "Contradiction", "Core", "Periphery". Marxism is constantly suppressed by Capital. In the imperial core, it survives only in nooks and crannies, hidden away from the scouring light of mass media. It lurks in dingy back alleys; including, occasionally, these very forums. animist fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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Dreddout posted:I am begging you to go outside that's fair
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Apr 15, 2021 02:45
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i always lmao when I see people going "no orwell was not anti-communist, he fought against fascism in the spanish civil war!!!"
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Apr 20, 2021 19:34
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i bet that during breaks in dsa meetings they talk about marvel movies
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Apr 22, 2021 04:53
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implying goons would ever lower their standards enough to gently caress other goons
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Apr 22, 2021 06:36
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what do you mean "dictatorship of the proletariat"? aren't dictatorships mean and bad?? that doesn't sound socialist at all
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Apr 23, 2021 06:15
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political correctness has gone insane these days. you cant even publicly mock the mentally disabled anymore
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Apr 24, 2021 03:23
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:yeah they will retaliate and probe you
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Apr 24, 2021 18:06
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alsoRated PG-34 posted:the concept of there actually being gay/trans/disabled/female/gamer communities is neolib bullshit have you ever, like, spoken to a trans person. or a woman
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Larry Parrish posted:its really obvious that its toxic to an egalitarian movement if you think about it for two seconds. the only reason i think it persists online is cuz of all these middle class crackers who have never in their life had to think about why racism exists and think they have great insights because of it even if you manage to cut out all the petit bourgeois twitter wokes -- which is an admirable goal, don't get me wrong -- you're still gonna have to be keenly aware of race when organizing among the American working class. You will have to talk about it and deal with it frequently. We live in what's effectively an apartheid state, denying that fact is denying objective reality. smarxist posted:pausing a patreon episode of chapo trap house to read this for a few seconds like i'm lost driving and looking for a turn before angrily X'ing it out and hitting "play" again tiny cracker brains baffled by the concept of "corporations do woke ad campaign" but also "race is part of the material conditions and cannot be wished away because it makes you uncomfortable" animist fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Apr 26, 2021 |
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