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BrokenGameboy
Jan 25, 2019

by Fluffdaddy
Can anyone recommend critiques on leftcom stuff, specifically Bordigists? I've been reading up on them and it's kinda messing me up mentally. While not their intention, everything feels very fatalist with them; how if you don't 100% achieve communism and abolish the value form than nothing matters.

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BrokenGameboy
Jan 25, 2019

by Fluffdaddy
What's up with Paul Cockshott and sex workers? In fact, now that I think about it, what is the general socialist/Marxist stance on sex work while we're still under the current capitalist system?

BrokenGameboy
Jan 25, 2019

by Fluffdaddy

That's generally been my stance. I got confused though because cockshott has a blog post somewhere about how "Marxists should absolutely not be pro sex work. " And I didn't know if that was just cockshott being cockshott.

Edit: for clarification, I'm referring to the initial referenced post.

BrokenGameboy fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Feb 5, 2020

BrokenGameboy
Jan 25, 2019

by Fluffdaddy
I'm pretty much with you on this, uncop. In a broad sense I'm pro sex workers and everything. However, gently caress if I know a good system for legalizing it without enabling exploitation.

BrokenGameboy
Jan 25, 2019

by Fluffdaddy

Zas posted:

also, i posted this in the other thread, but if bernie is a social fascist disappointment, that means tons and tons of left radicalization

So if we win, we win. If we lose, we win. And if we win-lose (your post), we win?

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BrokenGameboy
Jan 25, 2019

by Fluffdaddy

apropos to nothing posted:

exactly. that point has to be made to sanders supporters though because they would be the mass base of support for such a party. thats why revolutionary socialists should engage with the sanders campaign positively. the goal shouldnt be to orient around whatever sanders says or does or cancel him because of bad votes hes made in the past or some of his bad politics that socialists might disagree with, but to orient towards the millions of people who are excited about his candidacy. its a subtle difference but its a very important one.

That's pretty much what I thought the whole purpose of a sanders presidency was. Bernie isn't going to magic us away to commie land by himself. But, him being president opens up the possibility for a real left moment.

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