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The idea the Red Army was capable of taking on the Wehrmacht in 1939 is laughable. Everyone in the stavka new that they needed YEARS to reorganize their formations and control structure, mobilize (and train!) the huge number of men needed to even get parity with the Axis, replace all their obsolescent weapons (especially tanks), just to properly defend the Soviet Union. Yes, the purge of the Red Army command structure in 1937 definitely contributed to these problems, particularly in the area of doctrine and training. But doctrine doesn't build the thousands of T-34s and trucks you need to build mechanized divisions that can fight the kind of war Germany was waging. Oh the Germans were using horse drawn carts? Yeah. In their rifle divisions. The panzer divisions used trucks, because that's what you need for your infantry to keep up with the tanks. It was not until the end of 1942 the Soviet Union really completed the work necessary to turn the Red Army into a force that could fight on the terms of German operational warfare, and implement their own ideas about deep battle. And was not until 1943 until any country's military was able to successfully prevent a penetration through the front line by German panzer divisions, namely at the Kursk salient. Its infuriating the way people keep insisting on finding ways to paint the Soviet Union and Stalin as the villains of WWII. No country paid more dearly than the Soviet Union in the quest to destroy the fascist project, and even the cause of the western allies is nowhere near as righteous as the war the people of Russia fought to defeat the aggressors. Its disgusting to suggest that somehow the Holocaust is actually Stalin's fault because he didn't volunteer the lives of millions of Russian people to a war he knew they couldn't win. Its malicious to argue that if only he had done something in 1940 while France fell there would be no mass death. Not even considering that the loving French and British abandoned their obligations to Czechoslovakia in 1938, ruthlessly feeding them to the fascist wolves, while the Soviets clamored for cooperation to stop just that. People mock studying military history, but one thing it taught me is how much the narrative about the Soviet Union in WWII is fashioned literally from fascist propaganda. This poo poo is no better than the lie that Barbarossa was a pre-emptive attack to stop some completely made up plan by Stalin to conquer Europe.
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Enjoy posted:The Winter War (and the invasion of Poland for that matter) demonstrates that the USSR was able to sustain combat operations involving almost a million soldiers for months at a time.
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ButterSkeleton posted:I take some responsibility for voting in someone who's done hosed up poo poo, yes. Trump in office is worse. I choose to vote for a candidate more likely to remove trump because I feel that him being out of office is vital. I also feel that any other strategy that clearly has a incredibly unrealistic chance of removing him too is even more irresponsible. Liberals have already talked themselves into the belief that they didn't need socialists to win, so what sort of leverage do we have to push better policies if we don't have some sort of material power, through say, a disciplined and militant labor movement?
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Is this one of those situations where the op invented someone to get mad at online?
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dex_sda posted:i dunno man, i've seen like 4 different uk commie/commieadjacent orgs being transphobic. it's something in the water over there I think we can safely say that pedophile island is beyond redemption.
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Adopting posadism, just to vaporize the British
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dead gay comedy forums posted:it was something like 79% for preservation, as well Man, that's depressing.
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Finicums Wake posted:this is over a decade old, but is a reliable account of what the behind-the-scenes debates on socialism are like: i think reading the liberalization arguments in that ironed out some of the wrinkles in my brain
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Cerebral Bore posted:all i know about xinjiang is that the claims of genocide are coming from the same people who have blatantly lied to me for the entirety of my politically aware life
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reverse the bans, pedo mods gently caress off
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Yossarian-22 posted:i don't get it, why can't we just settle on china having their own guantanamo and acknowledging that it sucks and that the u.s. is just as guilty and then all hug and kiss each other instead of turning it into this high stakes thing? instead of "china has guantamo and it's good actually" vs. "XINJIANG IS AUSCHWITZ BUT IN 2021" i just think its more important to avoid helping the slugs in the state department refine their propaganda than it is to come up with some thoughtful critique of the ccp's cultural chauvinism. the bastards pushing the yellow menace poo poo are doing so with taxes i paid and in my name, and appear to be based on mostly total fabrications. there's no need to both-sides this.
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comedyblissoption posted:a forum cop is someone who enforces their bad decisions and doesnt tolerate sass even when the community overwhelmingly tells them they suck rear end lmao even with the charitable interpretation that was a joke that's lame you freaks. one of you just got credibly caught defending pedophilia, and people are getting probed for not agreeing with the us government, we'll call you pedos all we want
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Didn't realize CSPAM had enough mods to put on a parade
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also, very normal some of them have printed placards about destroying the CCP. just have some Uighur flags lying around
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I know this language is intentionally weaselly, and it doesn't really matter, but is there more than one superpower? I'm not convinced China or Russia could project power in a manner like the US (yet, in China's case).
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Comrade Koba posted:having way too much fun with this now maybe, "Left-Wing" Communism: An Infantile Disorder?
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Larry Parrish posted:the thing where that pyf mod decided to be the Rational Adult about loli hentai like 2 days after i got banned is one of the all time funniest forums moments however. i should have said 'the mods' generally and not 'cspam mods'. we can't ever let them live this one down. gotta wave that bloody shirt.
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Ferrinus posted:it's not avoidable, there are too many different kinds of socialist and the label can legitimately be used widely. it's "marxist" and "communist" that i actually get finnicky about I mean sure, but also the left is also comically disorganized and from past examples part of changing this is browbeating all the dumbasses that basically think social democracy is socialism, until they realize they're wrong. Algund Eenboom posted:The word socialist being associated with people and organizations who are explicitly capitalist is, uhh, good, and uh I like it yeah
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Ferrinus posted:yes. now, the question is, does this mean the entire dsa is a bunch of revisionist compradors, or are you just revealing yourself here to be a do-nothing ultra how can they be revisionists if they've never read a word of marx Kindest Forums User posted:Theres actually a whole bunch of non liberals out there but they don't live in white cracker nations. we're making fun of DSA here, so that's besides the point
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Where do people get the idea that there is a woke faction of the bourgeoisie? Does the microscopic improvement of women, openly gay, and poc representation in boardrooms or political office actually represent a movement?
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Ferrinus posted:honestly i think even phrasing it as a "faction" is going too far (and if i have a problem with pritchard's thread it's the idea that there are conscious, organized elements of the bourgeoisie on either side of this issue). it's just true that the balance of material incentives leads some capitalists to try to cater to minorities (or to whites who want to cater to minorities) rather than repress them and that's a place to insert a crowbar Just seems like a way for people to avoid the fact that the only cure to the divisions within the proletariat is fight for one another in the class struggle.
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comedyblissoption posted:look how there was a tiny tinge swing of the hispanic vote toward trump and the woke mask started slippin' lmao
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Raskolnikov38 posted:what do slaves usually get classed under I think Marx asserted they were capital. Which implies they don't produce surplus value. That actually seems off to me, but then I guess when you think about those monkeys the trainer says they help retrieve coconuts that can't otherwise be reached, so they are like tools. But I don't know
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man, nobody wants to read this bullshit what are you talking about
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its pretty awesome you could apparently just raise a big enough stink and get a home
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yeah thanks man lets return to this really interesting topic of how people post, its way better than chilling out and having a laugh at trotsky's biggest Ls
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Raskolnikov38 posted:thank god hodgepodge showed up the moment it looked like the thread was going to get back on track by calling people wreckers, a trot to the end (revisionist, that's the real r-word) John Charity Spring posted:I've got a pamphlet from 1939 called Through Soviet Russia by Major AS Hooper, a British army officer and certainly no communist although a vocal advocate of allying with the Soviets to fight the Nazis, and it's really fascinating as a travelogue from an outsider. He travelled through Ukraine and to Baku and then to Moscow in 1937 and it's full of interesting descriptions of just regular life in the USSR and how collective farms and soviet democracy worked, the kind of cultural life in cities and towns, and even a glimpse at how ordinary people viewed the onset of the Great Purge. I picked it up when one of the communist parties was doing a clearout of stuff in their offices when I happened to be in London a few years and I haven't found it anywhere online, so I could maybe post some photos of pages from it if anyone's interested and I find the time to do so. I'd scan it but I don't have a scanner, so terrible phone camera pictures are the next best thing. Yes, please.
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i say swears online posted:wait, "owned a house for a long time" and "paying high property taxes" in California lol 
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