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Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Ferrinus posted:

as has been pointed out, particularistic struggles relating to national liberation have historically worked out much better than abstract economism. the CPUSA was at its strongest in the 30s when black liberation was a core part of its platform rather than something that was assumed to be a second-order effect of establishing socialism.

this is a second order effect even if it's a first order goal? if the the goal is universal emanicpation, of course it must see to the needs of particular persons and groups of those persons

quote:

right now prison abolition movement and the specific demand to defund the police is rapidly picking up steam

this seems delusional tbh, an increase in awareness is useless without corresponding ability to wield power with regard to the awareness

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Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Varinn posted:

theres a difference between wanting consistency and not wanting the rule. if you think its not being enforced consistently, report and point out when it isnt. saying 'well other people werent punished for it, but that post was" isnt revealing bias, its revealing that mods rely on reports and not word filters, which no one wants

personally, i'm tired of seeing you, dustcat, ash crimson, our dearly beloved mod pile into threads to talk about what you think about posting & posters. i don't care, it's tedious, and there's a ball of you and all of you could be replaced by a goddamn chatbot because nothing interesting ever comes out

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Crusty Nutsack posted:

ramping people when they continue to do something against the rules is normal everywhere else, but why does everyone hate it so much here?

if everyone in here hates it, why is it in the rules? what does that mean about someone who enforces those rules?

it means you are an external will exerting force, which is absolutely the actual issue, not any particular words. you're the fuzz, the pigs, the stinky oinkers, those bastards, and so on. there's selective enforcement and it's seems obvious to everyone without hamvision.

who knows if it's true, all i know is it keeps derailing threads i'm posting in, in the middle of conversations i'm having and it sucks

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Ferrinus posted:

selective enforcement is an unavoidable result of having volunteer mods and loose rather than legalistic rules. this is actually better than the alternative of having some sort of strict algorithm that paid mods must enforce on pain of losing their employment.
none of these things really matter to the actual issue, which is that you don't mind the use of slurs

nope!

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

i in the following post will teach you everything i know about communism:

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006


lmao

trying again the thing he failed at so hard zizek put him into a coma

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

fart simpson posted:

i clicked on it. he's just reuploading a clip of the exact same zizek debate and pretending he looks good even though the audience couldnt stop themselves from laughing at him

awww, as you can tell i did not click, just laughed and closed the tab

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Raskolnikov38 posted:

what exactly is meant by degrowth? is it just ending the mindless consumption of the global west

right, i think this important because it's not like people in the West are happy

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Lasting Damage posted:

yeah thanks man lets return to this really interesting topic of how people post, its way better than chilling out and having a laugh at trotsky's biggest Ls

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

lumpentroll posted:

wrecking what

marrrrrrrrrrrrrge they the kicked me out of the dsa

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Larry Parrish posted:

He's doing his normal lib bullshit where he kind of parrots half of a concept but says it in 14 paragraphs so your eyes glaze over and people get tricked into thinking he said something worth engaging with, it's all just mystic bullshit

yeah, i'm trying to follow because it's stupid to ignore people who failed before you but i can't stand how much of this is talked about like it's warhams: a jargon with a theoretical description of the struggles of little men, as described by some double-wide nerd

not exactly fair; neither is what's actually happening

Brain Candy fucked around with this message at 17:10 on May 11, 2021

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

it’s the mod feedback thread somehow so why not

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Ferrinus posted:

doing cancel culture on the mods until they let me Say It

totally not extremely mad about your posting enemies

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

DirtyRobot posted:

Saying, "Oh Xinjiang that's not my country I don't think about that..." is anti-dialectical and serving the interests of capital.

it's fine to be concerned about the universal intellectually, but there's also the other part where you want to change things

you really can't have much of a power relation to 'over there' except through the medium of capitalist state power while capitalist state power controls your society. if you think operating within its confines will result in anything good you are an idiot

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

DirtyRobot posted:

Just to be clear, my claim is that if you're in the US, you fight US propaganda. I'm just saying that in order to do so, you have to have some sense of what's actually going on beyond your immediate sphere. Like you need to be able to say, "No, sorry, gently caress off, your framing is wrong because X, Y Z and..." and defend really existing socialisms, not pull a Chomsky and critique US imperialism but then at the same time oops, you're repeating state department talking points about "communist thugs" and "authoritarianism" every chance you get.

see i think this is still stepping into the trap, i don't need to offer support to be certain that the idea that us govt gives a flying gently caress about human rights is absurd

don't need to answer the q. about whether china is really communist, or love juche to know that country that caused open air slave markets in libya and supports genocide in Palestine is acting cynically. instead of trying to determine who wears the white hat you can instead consider motives and consequences

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Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

ButterSkeleton posted:

Tbh a highly motivated desire to use the word retarded will not help you convince people of what you say is worth listening to no matter how actually true what you say is

If you enjoy having a persecution complex then feel free to use retarded to lessen the sway of your point though

ButterSkeleton posted:

You can vote for Biden AND fight for all the other poo poo too. You can hate the fucker but know that it's the better option.

i hope it convinces you to never post in this thread again, thank you retard-sayers

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