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crowoutofcontext
Nov 12, 2006

My Imaginary GF posted:

I recall reading a study years ago that depressed and suicidal individuals tended to have more accurate perceptions of their lives and opportunities available than non-depressed and non-suicidal individuals have of theirs.

Trying to quantify things like "life opportunity" seems like bad, vague science. There are, however, studies on depressed individuals being able to make more accurate and realistic predictions about themselves. But the predictions refer to tasks in control labs. Some people try to translate those findings into "real life" and you might have read about that. It's called "Depressive Realism"

Depressed people will be more cynical and realistic predicting their abilities performing tasks in a controlled testing session. Non-depressed people usually have a positive bias rating their abilities.

The thing is that depressed people have a positive-bias when they rate other people, while optimistic people don't.

This leads us right back to Gauvenaut's point about alienation and seeing yourself as a burden. It doesn't matter how realistically you can rate your abilities because if you think everyone else is superior your still perceive yourself as an alienated loner dragging everybody down.

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crowoutofcontext
Nov 12, 2006

Trying to get a bit sentimental?? "Die peacefully surrounded by loved ones"

haha, no. There's far too many success stories for support groups to give up hope and resign themselves to this. Holding hands and singing hymns as their son or daughter or whatever is given their last needle is kinda unrealistic. Suicides based upon manageable mental illnesses are different from suicides due to deliberating chronic pain or unreversable brain death.

crowoutofcontext
Nov 12, 2006

Cugel the Clever posted:

You guys are sounding an awful lot like anti-choice zealots saying:
:supaburn: "Okay, abortion in the case of rape, incest, or the health of the mother is fine, but your average hussy doesn't deserve to make decisions about her own body."

How do you have any right to flatly deny anyone the choice over their own lives? If you don't want one, don't get one.

To me its less like abortion and its more like offering an option to mothers suffering from cases of postpartum depression to "die peacefully with their loved ones" before they are a further burden on their family, the court system and their at-risk children. Instead of, you know, figuring out a way to battle postpartum depression.

crowoutofcontext
Nov 12, 2006

Your Dunkle Sans posted:

Would instituting universal healthcare in the US have a positive impact in reducing the opioid crisis in America?

My Imaginary GF posted:

Depends upon the metrics used for promotion, doesn't it?

Yeah, universal healthcare won't help the onset of something like this epidemic if yr doctors over-prescribe. Canada has universal healthcare and our epidemic is not as bad as America's but still pretty dire, especially in certain cities.

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