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Cugel the Clever posted:Watching the Frontline episode on the Opiode epidemic and it's reaffirmed my What in the wasteful, murderous gently caress? I guess we could just improve the law and medical practice, or we could, you know, go all Aktion T4 about it.
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Grundulum posted:I focused on the word "offering" in Cugel the Clever's post. Assisted suicide is its own can of worms, but it is less outrageous than the euthanasia that Sedanchair and Ytlaya read it as. How is it not euthanasia? You can "offer" euthanasia. In any case how ridiculous to even dignify it with your careful mitigation. Addicts don't want to die, if they did they know how to do it. Their "suffering" is a product of a system that withholds their drugs.
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My Imaginary GF posted:So, you don't live in a vacuum. I assume your parents interact with individuals other than yourself. Do you think that their emotional response to your addict impacts any of their other relations? I'd imagine it'd be quite stressful to work full-time while knowing that you have a sick child. Your first instinct would be to turn down opportunities, such as working late in order to earn a promotion, so that you could be home and ensure your sick child doesn't overdose themselves. there are limits MIGF, this is well beyond them
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Cugel the Clever posted:As others aptly stated, assisted suicide ≠ forced euthanasia. You can improve law, medical practice, and offer those who wish it a safe, easy way to end their suffering. Whether it is addiction, another illness, or even just old age, assisted suicide empowers people to take control and end their lives on their own terms. Come now SedanChair, I never expected such conservatism from you! gently caress you. You just want junkies to die so you don't have to think about them.
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Cugel the Clever posted:I'm honestly surprised to find that assisted suicide is controversial on SA. As ToxicSlurpee stated, it's not a service that is provided on a whim to someone who's at a low point. A mandated waiting period plus some measure to ensure the individual is competent to make the decision for themselves would make sense. It's not controversial with me, it's just the most irrelevant cause imaginable to apply to the opiate addiction crisis, and comes from your sadistic motives.
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Yeah when you're talking about saving "time and money" you are not talking about the well-being of the person who would be "given the option" of a mercy killing. That's the height of unethical medical practice.
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computer parts posted:I dunno, I saw Beer commercials all the time when I travel. That would actually be great if beer commercials had to have long spoken disclaimers about side effects, including addiction, spousal abuse and death.
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Mar 18, 2016 09:13
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If being suicidal is not mental illness, nothing is. And maybe nothing is, but that strikes me as something of a separate debate.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:45
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Those examples are just clouding the issue. Euthanasia for the terminally ill or quadriplegic is a separate matter from people who have their whole lives ahead of them. Drug addiction, homelessness, ostracism, suffering the effects of personal and systemic racism: these are all barriers to functioning that some respond to with suicidality and others not. It is reasonable to respond with clinical tools to those who are struggling with it. Hence the imperfect but sufficient term "mental illness." e: and yes, if a quadriplegic is suicidal it would be unethical for any clinician or service provider to treat it any differently than when an able-bodied person is suicidal. Y'all are just gagging to fire up the lethal injection bus huh? woke wedding drone fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Mar 26, 2016 |
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Cugel the Clever posted:Congratulations, you're one of the semi-literate, try-hard "Woe-Is-Me"-ers Yes, it's all trying harder than Mr. Come Into The Thread With A Radical Idea About Killing Addicts.
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