DaD Chat: the stupid-shit caucus

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Disinterested: Jun 29, 2011; You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

hans gruber was a hero for our times imo

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 05:17

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Disinterested posted:

hans gruber was a hero for our times imo

like you could legit make a full on caper robbery movie out of hans gruber in die hard

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 05:18

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Dadchat is love, and he who dwells in love dwells in dadchat, and dadchat in him. May dadchat be in us, and we in it.

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 05:27

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what is your favorite bible verse sinnlos

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 05:40

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# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 05:49

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is steven pinker the jared diamond of psychology or is the relationship contrawise

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 05:51

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joeburz posted:

lol why would bernie even say that

he was trying to explain why he doesn't have endorsements and he was trying to say hilldawg has a lot of institutional support because she's been working the political circus for a long time for them

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 05:53

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joeburz posted:

saying it in that way does nothing but make him seem somehow at odds with the group even if he wasnt trying to, and it doesnt really gain him anything

he's not in fact that good at using his words

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 05:56

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quote:

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# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 06:06

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# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 06:09

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quote:

Do you see what we see?

We only see Blue and White!

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 06:13

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# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 06:21

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quote:

Bibi Netanyahu just ordered a ground operation on Gaza, upon the approval of the decision by the Israeli cabinet.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/183029#.U8gyQIe9LCQ

Have our Jewish warriors on your mind.

smh

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 06:39

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Volkerball posted:

ffs pull out dis, pull out

don't worry they ran out of pictures

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 06:44

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Berke Negri posted:

i think it is apt because it reveals he is neither a or b

in the space of three paras tnc simultaneously claims sanders is a wacky radical and a consensus hugger so idk how apt it can be

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 06:46

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tnc says 'reparations are as unlikely as uhc in 2020 so you may as well talk about both if it's a question of likelihood' while simultaneously claiming sanders' platform is well inside the overton window

it's a confused argument

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 06:48

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Berke Negri posted:

i think tnc's point is that sanders is running as a wacky radical but when that radicalism runs up against issues whites in particular are adverse to all of a sudden he is more pragmatic

I think the premise that he is a wacky radical is pretty flawed though, beyond messaging, and there is still a problematic tension there about trying to present bernie as being more radical than he is while simultaneously claiming he's not

I think there's just too much readiness to accept certain premises about bernie because it's convenient to the argument

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 06:55

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Volkerball posted:

he's pretty radical, just not on things it's not politically good to be super radical about, like israel and stuff like that. but the positions he'd advocate from on foreign, and economic issues are pretty to the left of public discourse.

his foreign policy is by far the least radical part of his platform

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 06:58

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Volkerball posted:

he's even more isolationist than obama. he'd use the word imperialism a lot if it was allowed, i guarantee it.

his foreign policy is literally 'same as obama but with slightly fewer drone strikes'

idk how we can posit that as radical

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 07:00

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Berke Negri posted:

i mean i agree bernie isnt that radical

that's not really the line of bernie's campaign though

that's why I said 'beyond messaging'

but to quote tnc

quote:

But he is not the candidate of moderation and unification, so much as the candidate of partisanship and radicalism. There is neither insult nor accolade in this. John Brown was radical and divisive.

I mean come the gently caress on

and then two sentences later obamacare is also posited as a piece of john brown style radicalism

really?

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 07:02

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Volkerball posted:

drone strikes are literally the only non-diplomatic engagements obama has had with the world outside of libya and isis. bernie over the last 8 years would've been like, drone strikes against isis, and that's it. that's pretty goddamn off the wall for the us.

not really

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 07:04

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quote:

Sanders is a lot of things, many of them good. But he is not the candidate of moderation and unification, so much as the candidate of partisanship and radicalism. There is neither insult nor accolade in this. John Brown was radical and divisive. So was Eric Robert Rudolph. Our current sprawling megapolis of prisons was a bipartisan achievement. Obamacare was not. Sometimes the moral course lies within the politically possible, and sometimes the moral course lies outside of the politically possible. One of the great functions of radical candidates is to war against equivocators and opportunists who conflate these two things. Radicals expand the political imagination and, hopefully, prevent incrementalism from becoming a virtue.

that is a pretty weak paragraph

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 07:07

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Berke Negri posted:

tnc is very clearly attacking sanders from the left because black people as a whole are not really on board with bernie for various reasons (his supporters dont help)

the whole game is revealed in the last line where he goes "i tried to reach out to the sanders campaign over this and they didnt so heres this big poo poo i just dumped on them" added on by the tweet today where he goes

https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/689902799010828289

the intention is clear

i'm all for pushing bernie to speak more about racial issues, if only because it forces hrc to campaign on them too

i just think it's the worst put together tnc piece I've read and belies certain ways tnc's own views about radicalism are a bit garbled

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 07:14

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Volkerball posted:

why would he prefer hillary over sanders tho

because hillary is a sure thing and doesn't lust for white supremacy with profound and sexual urgency

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 07:15

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Berke Negri posted:

that is probably because TNC is kind of an autodidact i imagine and doesn't fit into a nice sleeve

yeah it's simultaneously a strength and a weakness of his

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 07:18

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Berke Negri posted:

i guess he could have gone to better schools if thats what you mean

it's not, I just mean you tend to get certain things with any autodidact

fresh eyes and broad range, for example

the flip side of that coin is sometimes being too reverential or uncritical to material, accidentally wading in to debates where you don't know about the hidden landmines, or discovery for the fact you just learned about it

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 07:27

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Badger of Basra posted:

i think the best dadchat meme is the inability of certain posters to understand race, at all

- man who expresses continued amazement that people from other countries have different viewpoints to his own

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 07:28

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Tatum Girlparts posted:

Yea what does he know about this topic, really

I'm not talking about the topic, just his strengths and weaknesses as a writer in general. You could invert this criticism w/r/t cornell west, it's nothing to do with being qualified, whatever that would mean

Berke Negri posted:

is this supposed to be referring to an african american's opinions on reparations

no, I wasn't even talking about the article at all

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 07:33

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Tatum Girlparts posted:

So what the gently caress are you talking about? We keep talking about this article and you keep doing this coy 'well I dunno guys maybe this topic is out of his depth' about a respected black scholar's views on reparations, so I'd love to hear what this is really about.

I agree with the article overall and am pro-reparations, I just said I didn't think it was his best stuff because it's a little self-contradictory on the topic of if Bernie is a radical imo.

Largely unrelatedly to the article, I agreed that tnc is an autodidact, which just has its reflections stylistically, much like stiff academic specialism does. It's not a question of expertise or standing.

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 07:40

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a lot of comedians who complain about plagiarism seem to be under the impression that this is some serious cutting edge material nobody else could think of

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 15:27

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Gravel Gravy posted:

There are some pretty egregious examples though.

Mencia is the first thing that pops in my mind

Oh yeah, and also he just steals so much all over the place

But I think two people in twenty years could have come up with 'you call it nagging, I call it why didn't you loving listen the first time'

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 15:31

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Wow vs

The funny thing is I think the thread wind will blow with him on that Godwin

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 15:40

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zoux posted:

yeah we're just going to have to settle for the more subtle existential punishment of watching everything you built over a lifetime crumble

I'm thinking he's still gonna die super rich though

# ¿ Jan 21, 2016 16:39

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V. Illych L. posted:

i got it because it has a keyboard

I laughed

# ¿ Jan 22, 2016 04:17

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smartphones give people the expectation that you should instantly reply to them by whatever channel they choose to contact you with

to which I say, gently caress off

nonetheless I have one because they're cool and good

# ¿ Jan 22, 2016 04:19

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V. Illych L. posted:

i was, for a time, on flirting terms with a girl who has neither a smart phone nor, for that matter, facebook

i hadn't been so nervous waiting for a response since i was a teen it was weirdly stressing

I still get the nerves about replies sometimes

part of the fun imo

# ¿ Jan 22, 2016 04:25