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boom boom boom posted:but that's not very compelling. The guy has been alive for 3000 years, and in all that time never managed world domination. He's just been taking wild swings at it and never succeeded. How would he dominate the world? He'd need to step into some sort of leadership position (king, CEO, etc.), which he can't do because sooner or later people would realize that he's not dying, much less getting any older. Once that happened, it'd be a matter of time before the world united against him. He may be immortal but that doesn't make him invincible or omnipotent. His entire plan is a very long con and it depends on him not being under the spotlight. Besides, it's not like the dude is in a hurry. Being several thousand years old has probably made him the most patient person alive. That's why he has been biding his time and having fun with side projects like the meteorite experiments. In the long run though, he's waiting for an opportunity to significantly weaken humanity, which he's finally able to do with the Armageddon virus. From there, he can conquer the remainders without worrying about any resistance or counter-attack.
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boom boom boom posted:No, it's not. There's no long con involved at all. The birdpeople monsters, selling or buying the nuke, none of that had anything to do with his eventual rise to power. He just keeps randomly trying poo poo and failing completely on his own. He's a perpetual gently caress up who kept loving up for thousands of years, until he got lucky at the Degaton tutoring gig. I think you should watch the first episode again where Rip clearly explains how Vandal works.
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They should convert this show to improv. Give the actors a setting (e.g. 1500s England) and let them loose. See what comes out. (Would probably be better than what we have now.)
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boom boom boom posted:or Arrow Curtis is an engineer sorry 
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Xelkelvos posted:I do appreciate the subtle showing of Sara drinking Rory under the table yeah lol, that was really good anyway, i enjoyed this episode
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Ither posted:So I guess the team's not holding back anymore. They straight up killed the Hunters. It was actually remarkable how easily they defeated them, considering even Mick suggested running away at the end of the previous episode when they asked him what they should do.
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Apr 18, 2016 00:33
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Fat Shat Sings posted:The complaints I had about them just beating Savage into submission and leaving him on the floor for no reason and running away were multiplied by this episode. Running away is reasonable when facing an adversary with unknown capabilities. Even if you manage to knock them down, you have no idea how long they will be incapacitated. We saw what happened when Firestorm decided to go in for the rescue at Ray's lab: he got roflpwned. And then every other time they fought her, it was only a few of them vs. her. Waiting until the whole team was assembled before facing her was the smart thing to do.
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Apr 24, 2016 06:25
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Anyway, what's super amusing about this whole thing is that everyone was super excited for this show when it was announced, even though it was obvious that it was gonna suck big time. Now that it is sucking big time, a lot of people sound... disappointed. My only gripe is that they ripped (heh) some of the good characters from other shows and brought them together in this lovely show. Snart was a great Flash villain, and Sarah was pretty fun in Arrow.
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Apr 24, 2016 06:36
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nooneofconsequence posted:I thought the same thing but then Arrow started murdering people and I thought it was cool he wasn't a bitch like Batman. This, pretty much. The pussification of Arrow (both in the sense that he stopped killing, and in the sense that he started dating Felicity) is what ruined the show.
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Apr 24, 2016 22:14
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Hawkgirl has been pretty awful lately with all the relationship drama. Carter this, Carter that, jesus loving christ shut up already. I hope they dump her next season, assuming there will be one.
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Apr 25, 2016 04:43
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twistedmentat posted:Because you gotta give the ladies something, and what do ladies love? Weddings! - how TV writers think. weddings. and babies.
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Apr 27, 2016 02:39
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It seemed bizarrely out of character for Snart to walk among the refuges with Miss Savage and explain to her how much they're suffering. He seems like he'd be the last person to care.
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Apr 30, 2016 18:34
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ApeHawk posted:This episode was actually pretty good until Carter showed up. Then it all came apart. Yeah, the giant robot part was all kinds of goofy fun. The CGI wasn't amazing but considering the budget I think that's acceptable.
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Apr 30, 2016 20:59
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Martout posted:Who gives a poo poo about Carter, just kill Savage and be done with it! The mindlocked Carter isn't going to live for many many lifetimes from her point of view and if they kill Savage the cycle would be broken anyway so it wouldn't matter? The worst part is about to begin. I can see it now: they'll kidnap Carter and try to "turn" him, which will involve Kendra trying to help him remember their past lives together, while Ray sulks in a corner. 
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I like Stein. He plays the nerdy old man very well, and I like that he's really naive in some ways but also has a strong moral compass (despite having brought Jax on the trip against his will, which I blame on the terrible writers). Jax is cool too. He had a rocky start but recovered rather quickly. Snart and Rory are obviously awesome. Sarah is cool, but I feel like her character is written wrong. She used to be one of the top assassins in LoA. I dislike the way the writers in this show are giving her the role of Kendra's confidante in girly matters, and the way the two of them lost their minds over that baby at the hospital was very Rip is an unmitigated disaster, and I think he and Carter are one of the primary reasons the show is so weak. Ray is likable, but both he and Kendra are being dragged down by the horrendous and creepy romance plot that's unfortunately central to the story.
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May 1, 2016 01:25
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raditts posted:What is it with all these shows and vanishing into a shithole of lame boring relationship drama anyway? Arrow did it and it loving sucked, Flash did it and it loving sucked, LOT is doing it and it loving sucks. When will they learn? It's the network. They're simply pandering to their primary audience, which primarily consists of teenagers and young adults. It's not that relationship drama is always boring and dumb. CW's writers are just really bad at writing it.
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May 1, 2016 07:38
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Rhyno posted:The same people do not write every CW show. Why does it matter? They're all equally retarded. At least the ones writing the DC shows.
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May 1, 2016 07:42
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twistedmentat posted:Uh, that was baby Snart, so it was totally understandable. Hmm, was it?
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May 2, 2016 03:11
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The only good thing about Savage is that Hawkgirl and Hawkman literally trigger him when they come close. It makes me giggle every time.
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May 2, 2016 05:40
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nooneofconsequence posted:On the plus side, Sara learning how to pilot the ship gets us closer to a Time Lesbian spinoff. She became Captain Lance.
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May 6, 2016 19:39
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Also, god drat, we have two more episodes of this crap?
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May 6, 2016 20:05
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Xelkelvos posted:If Rip had studied Time Master history instead of League of Assassins history, he'd clearly know that Vandal Savage was a necessary component in the creation of time travel and the founding of the Time Masters. I can see it now: Vandal conquered the world, then realized that the only threat to his rule was someone messing with the timeline, so he founded the Time Masters to enforce no one would do it. Except Rip went back in time to Ancient Egypt and tried to kill Savage, who figured out that time travel is possible, and then four thousand years later conquered the world and founded the Time Masters... 
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May 6, 2016 20:11
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I could forgive this show if every single episode didn't ultimately revolve around awkward and creepy romance scenes. I mean, our heroes are acting in stupid ways, fine, whatever. But the whole Kendra/Carter/Ray triangle (plus Savage!) is just
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May 6, 2016 22:11
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Chokes McGee posted:Why do you keep watching this show if you hate it so much? I mean, not trying to white knight here, but it seems like your life would be a lot happier if you like got a dog and went to a park to play with it instead. Hate-watching is a TVIV tradition, haven't you heard? Try to keep up.
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May 7, 2016 01:05
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Longbaugh01 posted:The show is stupid fun. Ascribing or expecting any value to it higher than that is a mistake. yeah, it was soooo fun watching Kendra reading a love poem to chained up Carter 
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May 7, 2016 01:22
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Rocksicles posted:i'm in still but i'm not really enjoying it. what he said
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May 8, 2016 17:40
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I'm sucking that it enjoys.
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May 8, 2016 17:47
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FactsAreUseless posted:It's cool that you're so focused on your partner, but isn't "it" a little dehumanizing? It's focused that you're so cool on your partner but isn't dehumanizing "it" a little?
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May 8, 2016 18:02
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greatn posted:Maybe the thanagarians only invaded cause they were pissed Vandal savage kept killing their reincarnated royalty and sucking out their essence over and over. 
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May 15, 2016 17:13
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Chokes McGee posted:Dude, you're reaching enraged_camel levels of self-hatred for watching this show. Maybe you should take a break from it for your own sanity's sake, you're already mod of TVIV and that can't be a healthy place to start from Nice meltdown.
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May 21, 2016 21:12
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nooneofconsequence posted:So what did they actually accomplish? Sometimes quests are worth doing just to level up, even if you fail the quest itself.
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boom boom boom posted:The Hawk people couldn't kill Savage permanently because only an item from the room they were in when the magic happened could do that? But over thousands of years and hundred of lifetimes, it never occurred to them to just, like, throw Savage's body in some concrete. Or down a well. Or chain him to an anvil and toss him in the ocean. The mechanism behind his resurrection is unclear, which means anything is possible. So for all we know, his dead body might be dematerializing and then rematerializing in a random location on Earth. He is immortal, but can clearly die. He just comes back to life somehow. So even if they lock him up in an underground jail and throw away the key, he'd just die and resurrect elsewhere. Same with all the other methods mentioned, including throwing him into a volcano or the Sun. In other words, you're thinking about it way too much. It's comic book logic... the type you're supposed to turn off your brain while consuming.
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I haven't watched any of the episodes. How's this season so far?
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