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Is sovereignty good or would a one world centralized government be better?
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Jan 22, 2016 15:14
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Jan 22, 2016 16:18
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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blowfish posted:Yes. Its disturbing that you believe this.
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Jan 22, 2016 16:25
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Which one? Sovereign states or the one world government?
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Jan 22, 2016 16:33
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Yes.
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Jan 22, 2016 16:36
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Sir this is an admiralty thread and I do not recognize it's authority.
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Jan 22, 2016 16:56
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les fleurs du mall posted:Is sovereignty good or would a one world centralized government be better? A centralized world government is a terrible, terrible idea unless we have regular contact with other worlds.
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Jan 22, 2016 17:00
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Sir this is an admiralty thread and I do not recognize it's authority. The thread tag doesn't have a gold fringe so unfortunately claiming jurisdiction of spaceship earth does not apply in this scenario.
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Jan 22, 2016 18:40
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the following places are granted full sovereignty: brazil albania navajo nation east timor the rest of the worls is now under the purview of the canadian government, this is the best idea and everyone agrees as soon as they hear it
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Jan 22, 2016 18:51
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The only moral sovereignty is my sovereignty.
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Jan 22, 2016 19:16
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Full sovereignty is a bad thing. People are dreaming if they think that one nation is a way for world peace. I.E. Think of the Soviet Union but worldwide without any fear of outside nations. That's what you will get because humans tend to go that way in loving themselves.
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Jan 22, 2016 20:05
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A one world centralized government is the only hope we have of surviving the alien threat.
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Jan 22, 2016 20:56
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The nation state is a relic of the modern era and should be discarded as soon as possible. Thanks for reading my pamphlet.
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Jan 23, 2016 04:02
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I'd prefer a world where nations continue to exist but international law is strong and there are plenty of overlapping super-national organizations. I think the EU is great, but maybe not its idea of an "ever-closer union." A one-world government would just be a recipe for ethnic strife, cultural imperialism, and coercion, since the only way every last nation in the world is staying under the same government is by force.
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Jan 23, 2016 04:49
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In my opinion, full global communism now.
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Jan 23, 2016 06:08
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Fojar38 posted:In my opinion, full global communism now. Why stop at global? Full intergalactic communism now.
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Jan 23, 2016 07:24
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I kind of want to live under an entirely benevolent AI dictator.
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Jan 23, 2016 09:07
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I want to die under a malevolent AI dictator.
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Jan 23, 2016 09:12
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Our reality is already a simulation run by a morally ambiguous AI dictator, recklessly created by a one-world government in centuries past.
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Jan 23, 2016 09:24
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Sagebrush posted:Our reality is already a simulation run by a morally ambiguous AI dictator, recklessly created by a one-world government in centuries past. 
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Jan 23, 2016 09:41
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Global sovereignty is old-hat, you want to keep up with the times you need global suzerainty.
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Jan 23, 2016 11:43
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Randomized areas are computer generated and granted sovereignty at frequent intervals, allowing for states but not nationalism.
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Jan 23, 2016 12:58
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DrProsek posted:Why stop at global? Full intergalactic communism now. Look at this "Socialism in One Dimension" stalinist reactionary.
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Jan 23, 2016 14:35
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Popular sovereignty is what the United States is nominally about - the state is a reflection of public will through democracy -rather than the Eurasian system of an individual/family's will directing society without recourse. Human societies just tend to default toward authoritarian sovereignty and this is part of why our global civilization is such a mess. If the United States renovates itself, rediscovers popular sovereignty to have libertarian socialism in one country - it could then radiate across the globe. Especially if part of this system of government is open source software that any nation can adopt.
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Jan 23, 2016 14:57
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les fleurs du mall posted:Is sovereignty good or would a one world centralized government be better?
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Jan 23, 2016 14:58
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McDowell posted:Especially if part of this system of government is open source software that any nation can adopt. you mean bitcoin?
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Jan 23, 2016 15:07
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les fleurs du mall posted:you mean bitcoin? No, more like linux, the software behind Uber, or Wiki.
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Jan 23, 2016 15:14
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FreeGovOS, a fork of GovernmentOS dedicated to strengthened core principles of Freedom and Individualism, is incompatible with the historically derived and leftist-tainted version of welfare and public services offered by GovernmentOS. FreeGovOS therefore ships with the alternatively-named social safety and infrastructure modules IceWell and IceServ. Free and open sores government for everyone!
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Jan 23, 2016 19:06
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Sure, so long as it isn't controlled by WHITE MALES, god they are the worst.
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Jan 23, 2016 21:07
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:Sure, so long as it isn't controlled by WHITE MALES, god they are the worst.
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Jan 23, 2016 21:08
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:Sure, so long as it isn't controlled by WHITE MALES, god they are the worst. Ian Murdock for God-Emperor (Deb to be executed for unfaithfulness)
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Jan 23, 2016 21:49
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I am sovereign of my anus.
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Jan 24, 2016 01:06
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Sovereignty can only be good for bitcoin.
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Jan 24, 2016 02:23
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Friendly Tumour posted:I am sovereign of my anus. rudatron fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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Jan 24, 2016 02:39
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The American highway system and the world wide web both have different measures of 'sovereignty'. There are 'rules of the road' and 'protocols' that allow for a measure of freedom for individuals. I use a dashcam because I think a new kind of objective law and justice is possible if enough people seek change in themselves. That is always the issue of libertarianism - the individual is a minority of one and billions of them can never be satisfied.
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Jan 24, 2016 02:55
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Not in eve online
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Jan 24, 2016 03:08
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blablablabla posted:Not in eve online Griefing in the service of liberty is no vice
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Jan 24, 2016 03:26
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McDowell posted:
I disagree, at least by any reasonable definitions of society and authoritarian. One need only look at the communal social relations prevalent among modern-hunter gatherers, for an easy counter-example. Individual freedom and autonomy are important values in many cultures besides America. For example a fundamental principle among the Arab tribes of Yemen is essentially "nobody can tell you what to do," and any Sheikh who thinks he can dictate to his people what they can or should do is bound to find himself deserted by his supporters. A common feature of many tribal systems of governance is that the more power one segment accumulates, the faster it splinters into new and separate factions. Edmund Leach observed a cyclical process of state formation and dissolution in Highland Burma, with society fluctuating between states of extreme social stratification and egalitarianism, depending on circumstance, and with each phase holding within itself the seeds of its own destruction.
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Jan 24, 2016 07:10
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Squalid posted:I disagree, at least by any reasonable definitions of society and authoritarian. One need only look at the communal social relations prevalent among modern-hunter gatherers, for an easy counter-example. Individual freedom and autonomy are important values in many cultures besides America. For example a fundamental principle among the Arab tribes of Yemen is essentially "nobody can tell you what to do," and any Sheikh who thinks he can dictate to his people what they can or should do is bound to find himself deserted by his supporters. True, I was focusing exclusively on modern industrial/bureaucratic states with that statement about society. But assuming modern telecommunications aren't going anywhere people won't have laissez-faire tribal organization anymore - some version of the western nation-state governs most of the world's people. The Chinese 'Mandate of Heaven' idea actually combines popular and hereditary sovereignty. The Emperor is conditionally endorsed by the gods and the people. Mc Do Well fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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Jan 24, 2016 14:21
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