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gently caress the "it's too slow" people. gently caress the "too many tits" crowd. Best goddamn show on TV for me right now.quote:John Silver Every speech he will make this season will, by definition, be a stump speech.
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BurtLington posted:Flint is loving brutal now. I like to imagine that he actually could see that. He just doesn't care much anymore.
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Jan 24, 2016 05:17
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Roman Reigns posted:I think Vane's gonna die this season. There's a lot turning against the pirates now and he's too up front to be spared from it. I made a slightly different prediction to myself: Either Vane will die this season, or Eleanor will. One of these two characters cannot continue living for the story to progress past this season, I think. Or, yaknow...both of them die, which is also a possibility if the writers decided to go full-out  with this season, as its premier deffo would seem to indicate.
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Jan 24, 2016 16:02
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Mouse Dresser posted:I was hoping that season 3 was the season that Jack would finally do something about that facial hair, but nah. There's a pretty substantial comical element to Jack and I've found that his rat-faced appearance, coupled with his expressions, contributes a great deal to it. I like him the way he is, personally.
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Jan 24, 2016 23:31
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Silver is very interesting, because the argument FOR him doing what he does now, because of a love for the crew, actually was planted there as a seed by Flint in mid-Season 2 when he pulls off the Urca gold deception: "Those men out there give a poo poo about what you think. Where else in the world would you wake up and matter? You walk out on all this...and where the gently caress are you going?" It deffo had a subtle effect, and led to what he did at the end of the season...it cost him heavily...but the crew also proved Flint's words to him, by taking care of him and electing him Quartermaster. And he legit does this job better now than Gates, because he actually stands the gently caress up to Flint, whenever he veers into the insane irrational waters that jeopardize the work of the entire crew. So it would make sense that he is attached to the crew now...on the other hand, that spoilered area I mentioned? It might very well come to bite him in the rear end yet, because Max remains the only person who knows, that he was the one who had lied to all of them. And if he ever crosses her too much...her leaking and confirming that bit of info to Flint or the crew would utterly ruin Silver. So who knows...perhaps even he knows this, and is looking for opportunities to not be utterly reliant on the crew the way he is right now. Therein lies the argument, that he's not *that* attached to the crew as he appears at the moment. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jan 25, 2016 |
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Props to him, that was a proper troll. There was a bit of a fuss over it and it got retweeted back at him, so I'm sure he was cackling at that.
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Space Pussy posted:edit: Teach is terrifying. I totally throw down to be on dat crew. 13! Was pretty much what I suspected his position would be. What I liked a lot, tho, was the backstory, of how it took Eleanor, Hornigold and in the end even for her to gently caress Vane's brains out, just so that they could shove him off into the sea. And that the only reason it worked was, because he couldn't bring himself to kill his apprentice. I liked how they revealed that, because at first you hear Eleanor's account of it, and she delivers it like it was all Q.E.D., duh, of course he'd go! Then you hear Teach's POV, and no, not loving really...he was absolutely willing to kill every motherfucker using whatever he had to...every one, except ofc Vane, in whom he saw future potential, even after he plainly chased after a skirt. It was the only time that his will, which he correctly deduced was what mattered most, faltered. And it's definitely something to wonder about, just how much of a weakness Vane still is to him right now...and how that'll affect what's to come. I also think that Eleanor and Hornigold deserve each other. I mean, cripes...both of them have so much pride that they're willing to do literally anything to save their skins and ego. And I have to say, Woodes Rogers' handling of them both is deffo making me take a liking to his character. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Jan 31, 2016 |
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Jan 30, 2016 23:55
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Gonz posted:Seconding this. What a goddamn nightmare huge storms must have been in that era of sea exploration. I mean, they're awful now, but back then, with the wooden ships? Pirating ain't easy. Were it not for Billy Bones' amazing forearms, he prolly woulda fell off too.
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Jan 31, 2016 09:02
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Rocksicles posted:Flint's PTSD is masterfully shot. I have to say, it's definitely one of my favorite depictions of the start of a psychotic break.
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Yeah, I can definitely see how that part gets grating. On the other hand, if they never did lengthy dialogue of any kind from the start, nerds would be like: "What is dis?! It doesn't make any sense! EXPLAIN MOVIE!" But I do agree that I like the show moving away from the dialogue somewhat and into the visual more. Also smaller things, like Vane's frustration after being asked to stop working, is something I completely get, but yea...most spergy nerds would be all: "Why's he acting out liek a little child? Behavior does not compute with logic. Beep. Boop."
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Feb 1, 2016 09:57
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Roman Reigns posted:Well...that doesn't abode well for Flint at all then. It could mean anything, really. Death, who took Barlow away. Death, who is the monster he created in Flint. Or yeah, the death that awaits him down the brutal path he's chosen, spurred on by him seeing "We die alone" in the first episode.
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Feb 2, 2016 01:06
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Mr. Carlisle posted:This season is really good, goddamn. I'm really digging Flint's crew's journey. Like...every episode is a mini-adventure, that demonstrates the unique extremes of that lifestyle and those times. Heck, it's frequently overshadowing the main plot story everyone else is taking part of (only thing from there, that I legit loved in this episode, was Woodes Rogers revealing how England's approach is actually quite tame, compared to what Spain will do, should it fail). CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 10:03 on Feb 7, 2016 |
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Rocksicles posted:That's what i thought, but there aren't that many volcanic islands in the north/west atlantic. Canary islands have Tenerife's volcano Pico del Teide (visited it meself), so maybe that if your theory is correct. 
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Mouse Dresser posted:Another amazing episode. Toby Stephens is so loving good as Flint. He's intense and unhinged and watching him slowly crumble is by far the best part of the season. I honestly don't know, if me being able to consistently predict the exact next thing that Flint will do or say/rationalize this season is a good thing for me, lol. The moment those two men were put forth for the food stealing, I was like: "Flint's gonna kill them both, isn't he? Less mouths to feed that way and makes a point to everyone else." and yyyap. Though I gotta say, I loved the voice he used right afterwards and his expression - it was very much so the definition of insanity. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Feb 8, 2016 |
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Feb 8, 2016 06:17
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etalian posted:You know the Blackbeard scene was the best joke in S1.  But yeah, in terms of a regular foci of humor, Jack remains pretty much the only bastion of it by this point. Other sources have all had poo poo done to them, that makes them a lot less cheery. EDIT: My favorite jokes are probably the certain individuals from S2...who SHALL remain nameless! CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 20:13
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nate fisher posted:As someone who just recently watched the first 2 seasons, and is caught up on season 3, I am surprised by the lack of sex/nudity on this show given it's reputation. It doesn't even touch what a crazy orgy Spartacus was at times, but in all fairness nothing really does. S1 may have overdone it a bit at times, but by S2 and right now it's pretty much fine IMO, since it actually tells the story well (Max explaining, why she still likes to be in a whorehouse, has just sound FX and yet it's very relevant, for instance). As for most of the debate on this subject, and most shows getting the 'too much sex/nudity' rep, I just consider it the usual hand-wringing and much ado about nothing, when it comes to any debate of 'too much sex on the TV'. Me, I'm kinda glad this show started out relatively unknown (and still kinda is), so I didn't have to go through dozens upon dozens of pages of: "Was it right Sansa got raped?" empty moralization over fictional characters.
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Feb 10, 2016 21:46
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:I think Max is suppose to be Mary Read. Yea, I get the sense that they took creative license with that role the most. TBH I don't mind it that much, but yeah...it just doesn't compare to the rest of the stuff that goes down in the show. Heck, the bits with Max have always been running almost entirely parallel to everything else that's going on ever since mid Season 1, rather than it being involved that actively, so the show just lurches to a stop through it. Hopefully that changes this season, since everything is about to be shaken up and re-ordered.
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Jst0rm posted:Everybody is getting into their characters now. Toby and Luke are real big stand outs for me. But let's give it up for that side pirate who drowned. He has been around since s1 and man did he bring his acting chops to that death scene. I can't think of his name but that's gonna be one of the best death scenes of the year. Oh no doubt. The minor roles acted out really well always stand out for me on any show. (just reminded me R.I.P. Randall - goddamn, did I love that actor's portrayal of him  )The talk he had with Silver before the storm hit them is also good stuff. There's lots of these chars from S1, who only have a minor but constantly persistent presence, and they're all dying off one by one. Just Joji, DeGroot and the doctor left from them still present and alive as part of the crew, if I'm not mistaken...Rocksicles posted:I'm more interested in seeing Jack's flag up on the mast. He was pretty much the highlight for me in yesterday's ep. I mean, you kinda expect for Vane and Teach to stick together and do their thing, but Jack deffo came into his own. Fully agreed, also, as to the topic of success: "gently caress *those* men!" CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Feb 14, 2016 |
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I just hope they don't kill off the Fruit, Tits guy. Out of all the minor side-characters, he's pretty much the only entertaining one left and it'd be great for him to show up again.
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Xoidanor posted:Space pirates  Yes, please. And let's see how many variations of 'bacca' can we go through, like they're all wookies in disguise.
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Feb 15, 2016 10:40
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Jst0rm posted:Layers and layers of sound. This was a team effort with my supervisor as by the time I finished a lot of the vfx wernt in those shots yet. As for source material I dont really want to go into that, not to hide it but I dont want people hearing that instead of a storm thats gonna kill you Was definitely worth the effort, I'd say. Can't remember a scene that captured that specific kind of mayhem so well in literally any movie/TV show before your work. 
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Feb 15, 2016 22:15
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The re-recording mixers do an excellent job working the material as well. The same team does Game of Thrones as well.
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Hells yeah, when at the end of this week's episode, after Flint convinced the Queen into a partnership with him and his crew, they concluded it by returning The Motherfucking Coat of Legend to him as his crew got released. Like a bawse. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Feb 20, 2016 |
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Feb 20, 2016 12:20
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Season 1, in retrospect, suffers a great deal from having a pretty loose structure over 8 episodes. It's almost like a collection of scenes and events that start, lurch towards one direction, then head somewhere else. Even the central theme of the treasure hunt is that way, in how the preparations go for it, and yeah...that can definitely be frustrating.
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Feb 20, 2016 22:26
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I like Season 1 too. But yeah, I like it for its specific scenes moreso than the overall narrative (even if I liked the deconstruction of Flint's "I am your king!" a lot). As for specific scenes, there's many of them in Season 1 I still love a great deal. Silver getting: "You're a thief!" thrown in his face over and over. Andromache fight (really liked Dyford's actor). Gates confronting Flint on what happened to Billy. The first fraying between Eleanor and Hornigold, when they have to set up the consortium. A lot of good stuff in Season 1, just yeah...best treat it as a series of events without a central theme yet formed and is hence skippable if you're really short on time, I'd agree on that. After all, Season 2 is when The Coat finally makes its legendary appearance. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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Feb 21, 2016 13:46
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They only need to have a French ship getting boarded/involved with the pirates, with their frog-tastic lingo (Max deffo doesn't count), and they'll have hit all 4 of the major powers that were present there during the Age of Sail.
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For me, I'm moreso wondering if Blackbeard + Vane intercepting all that information hasn't actually bought Nassau some extra time, at the very least before the next batch of reports are sent back to Spain. Something tells me Spanish ships will come roaring at the end of this season either way, to find out wtf is going on with their gold exactly and get it back any way possible, since they don't trust Woodes as it is. The predictable thing is for Woodes to go into full crackdown mode, likely try to nab and impound whatever he can from Max and will also quite likely nab Jack, who would've otherwise beaten the game, dragging Anne back into all of this too. Then he makes the best show possible, to appease the Spanish (not bloody likely to work)...while Flint/Blackbeard's pirate fleet also likely returns by then and ololol - threeway clusterfuck ensues from there. Another possibility would be Woodes not going full crackdown, maintaining some goodwill while carefully pressing behind closed doors, pirate fleet returns and brits + pirates decide to team up to fend off the Spanish...then probably turn on each other in the last episode or two. In short, this is bound to get mighty complicated from here on out. Holyshoot posted:Is the spanish navy way better then the British navy or does Britain not care enough to mount a defense of the Spanish come knocking for the gold? Ultimately, all of this is Woodes Rogers' private expedition, backed by a Commodore's escort of the Royal Navy. Meaning that *technically*, this is a privateering expedition and not an official British operation, for reasons that Britain probably doesn't want to go to war with Spain over this yet again (a point made in Season 2 by Richard Guthrie, when he makes the point of how reconciliation with Britain will never work, if you piss off Spain and they don't want to risk another war). So Woodes' expedition here is very much all he has. The pardons worked spiffingly, but they're of no use against Spain and he knows for a fact that they'll send 10 ships and 1500 troops to, basically, raze everything to the drat ground and get their gold back. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:Does Blackbeard have the big rear end boat (is it the urca? or another ship?) they stole last season? Yap. Spanish Man-O-War, name not known. But the true prize The Motherfucking Coat of Legend is, fortunately, still in Flint's possession. So it's gonna be a helluva standoff between them, when they link up again.
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I actually have it on good authority, that South America still has some notorious honest-to-goodness pirates. Although their main plunder is stealing fish on fishboats, from other fishermen, so that they can sell them on the fish markets. So they're even smellier now than before, if you can believe it.
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Hooboy on the latest, 6th episode. Ohhh that Marmaduke/Blackbeard...he will never learn. Looks like I was spot on with Vane being his weakness. And I gotta say, I did not see Rackham going THAT far. Jesus cripes...why do I get the feeling the last few episodes of this season will even blow the end of the 2nd one out of the water? CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Feb 27, 2016 |
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The thing about bad fanfiction doing this is that the purpose behind it is significantly different. Namely, to mentally fellate the author at the expense of the story. Whereas on this show, whenever this is done I've always seen it lead to an event of note (such as Silver confronting Flint over it on the boat and him letting him in his head because of it, which leads to Silver talking Flint out of that escape attempt, that prolly wouldn't have worked and would've killed him). Similarly, I'm pretty sure there were swathes of people going: "Why all the gay poo poo? This is slash fiction lol!" during Season 2, but it too was important to establish that when people Flint cares about get taken from him, he tends to go quite berserk and that this is the chief reason for him waging this war in Season 3 over Barlow, rather than his initial rationalizing: "I am your King" reason in Season 1. All that being said, I do agree that the focus has been on Flint a bit much during this season and if you don't find his character the main interest of the show, then yea, you're getting a raw deal lol. Personally, I really liked Billy's change during Season 2, that comes from his torture, and kinda hope to see more from him. Hell, his line: "And I'm just here waiting until this story starts to make sense again." could easily be argued as a 4th-wall breaker, if you're not a fan of Flint's.
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Immortan posted:Blackbeard is dying? Does put his initial season opening monologue into perspective. He knows he'll die eventually of that shrapnel, so he's set to live dangerously until then. Alas, some things hurt the heart far worse than shrapnel. Like being rejected by your protege for the second time in your life, after you swore you wouldn't fall for it again, lol.
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Personally, I'm rooting for Woodes Rogers. He seems so nice and gentlemanly. If only these mean ole pirate manchildren would cut him some slack. Seriously, tho, I like that one can legit root for whoever they like most and won't have some grognard jump down their throat with a: "Why aren't you rooting for Stannis the Mannis?!"
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PaybackJack posted:And the thought of a bath scene(non-sexual for those that haven't seen Vikings) with Ecbert and Flint would just be amazing. Season 1/2 Flint anyway: Flint: "Do you think you are a good man?" Ecbert: "Yes. I think so. And you?" Flint: "Yes. I think so. Are you corrupt?" Ecbert: "Oh yesss! You?" Flint: "Mhm."
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Teach comes off as more of a dick, because his being a pirate is less so about ideology through pirates, started by poo poo that was taken from him, as it is with Flint's and now also Vane's path (him being a former slave and all), and moreso about adding to the legacy of the pirate account for its own sake. And because of that piece of shrapnel, the only way he can do that in a way that will last is through worthy followers that are sufficiently like him, which is why he's always been so fixated on grooming Vane. Of course, as Flint points out during their sitdown - none of it (the fleet from Nassau and the pirates on it) ever was his to begin with. He just figured he'd give the old days, when it looked like strength of will alone would be enough to carry you and you could steal all you needed, one last shot in his autumn years by taking advantage of a crisis. On the one hand, a lot of the things he says are true. But on the other, his way of what to do with those things offers little perspective for anyone's future, his own included. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Feb 29, 2016 |
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People ITT have often gone on about cast members going shirtless on screen, but lemme just be the first to say god-DAYUM to Ray Stevenson's chest. He was somewhat bulky on Rome, but this time around it's like he's a drat tank. I now cannot help but imagine a man with that chest, Billy Bones' amazing forearms AND Silver's charming looks (legs too, for that pirate flair). The ultimate hulking pirate voltron. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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Aphrodite posted:Getting away with the money but forgotten isn't a win for Jack. While I was all with him on this topic, in his words: "gently caress those men!" I still never saw it coming, that he was willing to go as far as try to make sure Nassau suffers another Spanish raid, which will result in great bloodshed and chaos...all to make sure his name rings out. It's not just devious of him...it's sorta downright ruthless. Though I suppose, with everyone else willing to betray him and Vane for the pardons, after he was generous as poo poo to everyone on the island with his share, I can also see how he might hold some resentment towards the island's general populace now. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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Have to admit, "My name is John Silver and I've got a long loving memory," has a much better ring to it than: "...and I happen to be a very good cook."
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muscles like this? posted:Kind of an ignoble end for poor Mr Dufresne. Yeah, was kinda hoping for him to be taken down by Billy, who kinda showed him the ropes in S1. But ah well, I suppose accusing someone of being 'all talk' and winding up as being the pot that called the not-quite-kettle black will have to work.
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VagueRant posted:Okay, Woodes Rogers is unreasonably reasonable and the only character to root for despite being the most boring option. He is no doubt unreasonably reasonable. But Jack's final line to him in the cell, as to the fact that what he's actually doing is not a good thing at all (even if done for good reasons), demonstrates very well, how that quality on its own is definitely not enough. Not to mention how quickly he's then willing to bend over even further for Spain, and violate his original promise of setting Jack free after all this, as part of his pardon strategy. Whatever reason dictates is the path of least resistance for him and most others, he takes it regardless of principle or who will get hurt (unless perhaps it's someone close to him, like Eleanor is now). So if one roots for him, because they support reason and pragmatism for its own sake, I can definitely understand that. But these things, as well as not wanting to be seen as a villain, definitely scream of an internal weakness of his, one that Flint has worked through during the first half of this season. Not to mention also an added problem that this weakness leads to - making reasonable men rationalize horrible things as 'necessary', instead of also owning up to them. Much like Ashe rationalized his betrayal, and not facing up to the fact that he was just too weak to do the harder, decent thing and stand up for himself and those close to him. I still like Rogers a lot. But I don't think he's entirely experienced with all this, and I'd predict that even if he wins things won't go smoothly for him at all, somewhat also due to this weakness of his (of which he's actually becoming somewhat aware). Even if he does have a cute butt.
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