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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Deakul posted:

I don't think this is following history down to the T, it's more of a play set with a bunch of famous pirates and historical figures plotting and scheming in it.

But, I think it'd be pretty ballsy to kill off some characters this year and I'd respect the show more for it!

Yeah but the circumstances of Vane's downfall and death are pretty drat TV dramatic as it is, so I would imagine they would want to keep that.

Gazaar posted:

I'm pretty sure he's sailing the Walrus again, they mentioned it by name.

If I had to guess the galleon is probably guarding the fort area of Nassau.

The season 1 Walrus was obliterated. Flint always names his ship the Walrus.

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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Oh, so it was the Ranger that got destroyed I guess?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Also you pirate by sailing close before popping your black flag, a Man o War isn't hiding as a merchant ship.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Xoidanor posted:

But they were raiding a town, not a ship. :raise:

Yeah but now he's back to regular pirating.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Rocksicles posted:

I thought he was talking about Max

Max is doing a super bad fake French accent.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:

That show got a second season? I quit it after the first episode

This is season 3.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

On Terra Firma posted:

I think they were referring to The 100. I actually just started it on the recommendation of this thread. I'm.....not sure I'm on board yet.

Yeah, I did too. The 100 is on season 3 now.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Lord Tywin posted:

Well hopefully either Vane or Titus Pullo will kill her this season! I will be very upset if she somehow manipulates Vane and survives again since she's just such a boring character in such an awesome cast.

When you do semi-historical stuff like this and Spartacus and other similar shows, an issue you can run into is that some of your antagonists can't die. Spartacus' final season had that because seriously gently caress Crassus and Caesar, those sons of whores. Their way around that was by creating their own characters who they could have killed, and give the protagonists that little win the audience wanted. Especially because we all know there's no victory at the end of Spartacus.

So depending on how far they want to take Eleanor, since she's fictional there's that option. However currently she's meant to be seen as one of the good guys.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

He was known for torturing crews before killing them too. And he cheated his crew out of their shares.

It's a really weird choice for him to be one of the heroes of this show.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Yes. Vane is considered that bad.

Flint is regularly portrayed as an unhinged monster. Vane was that way early on but they mostly tossed it and he's all noble and conflicted now.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

He's a sound guy on the show.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

I mean at worst Treasure Island told you Billy didn't die back in season 1. Otherwise there's not much it can give away.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The Great Lakes are full of smugglers, do a good enough job and you might become official privateers of the Royal Canadian Navy.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Immortan posted:

Wait so the Spanish know about the British with Eleanor having stole some part of the Urca gold due to spies?

Max hasn't actually given it to him yet, so he hasn't stolen anything.

They know some gold was exchanged. So now he can't simply deliver the gold they did find, say "This was all that was there" and pocket the black pearls. Spain will be expecting him to recover the pearls too.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Getting away with the money but forgotten isn't a win for Jack.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Don't post spoilers until it's on TV, you jerks.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Yes, it was the other men who came to Silver (so the others who knew) beating him.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The circumstances of Vane's death are already dramatic enough that it would be a shame not to use how he died for real.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

They keep talking about what hold Max has over "the streets" (man have they overused that phrase lately) and everything now but we never saw it happen, and we never see what effect it has.

What we've actually seen is just a worse Eleanor.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

gently caress history, kill 'me all.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Most of the show doesn't happen without Eleanor's bad decisions. It's just easier to have one character do them.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Historically England and Spain signed a peace treaty just in time to save Nassau from annihilation, or something like that.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Porn is the $10 buffet of nudity.

He's a connoisseur, an advanced palate. He wants to see specific nudity.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

No, Charles Vane was the slow boyfriend on Shameless who liked gigantic dildos and autofellatio.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Hollywood is sexist, they only write about an actress' fitness negatively. If an actress takes a break between projects and gains any visible weight, she's on every tabloid.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

I'd imagine it's easier to get Billy Bones arms when your job affords you the time to do it, and probably provides the best HGH money can buy.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Makes sense in the story too. They're heading to war, and there probably won't be many survivors.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

It's not going to lead directly in time wise. There's a significant amount of time between the treasure being buried and the beginning of Treasure Island.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The Golden Age of Piracy only lasted 10 years by some interpretations.

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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The show uses a lot of the same historical pirates, though it's actually less historically accurate than the magic space god technology video game.

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