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Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
America would never elect a gay man as president.

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stoutfish
Oct 8, 2012

by zen death robot

Darkman Fanpage posted:

America would never elect a gay man as president.

too late

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
I'm so mad I can't even post

Hilarious that neither prospective candidate is satisfactorily pro-business so the out-of-touch folks who usually bankroll them figure an independent run will get them what they want- as if the general populace AKA the very people who are nominating these "unpalatable" candidates REALLY want someone who'll advance corporate interests at the expense of the nation's general welfare.

Lol @ them thinking it's the conservative policies that will hook people instead of populist and racialist rhetoric. The folks putting up Bloomberg are the folks who wish they could vote for Jeb loving Bush come November. Disgusting.

Harold Stassen has issued a correction as of 15:29 on Jan 25, 2016

thethreeman
May 10, 2008
Fallen Rib

etalian posted:

The fact that they are considering such a Hail Mary shows how desperate and lovely the democrat establishment is getting.

lol what? This is a crazy billionaire like trump, last thing hillary/establishment needs is splitting the business-friendly dem votes more

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

etalian posted:

The fact that they are considering such a Hail Mary shows how desperate and lovely the democrat establishment is getting.

Who is they

Cornflakes
Dec 3, 2006

Optimus Subprime posted:

Does anyone even like Bloomberg outside of NYC Manhattan?

I live in Manhattan and loving despise Bloomberg. It's not like he's got great support here either...

Also lmao @ Bloomberg endorsing Rick Snyder in 2014:

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2014/10/07/bloomberg-endorses-michigan-rick-snyder-gary-peters/16861533/

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

CornflakeS.Pecially posted:

I live in Manhattan and loving despise Bloomberg. It's not like he's got great support here either...

You'd be amazed how many upper middle class (by NYC standards; firmly upper class by most standards) white people think Bloomberg was great because of bike lanes and citibike.

Good Bloomberg positions: the environment, public health, gay people

Bad Bloomberg positions: rich people, poor people, non-white people

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

CornflakeS.Pecially posted:

I live in Manhattan and loving despise Bloomberg. It's not like he's got great support here either...

Also lmao @ Bloomberg endorsing Rick Snyder in 2014:

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2014/10/07/bloomberg-endorses-michigan-rick-snyder-gary-peters/16861533/

On related note Jeb! thinks Snyder is doing a great job handling the Flint water crisis

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Dead Cosmonaut posted:

Either way gently caress you Paul Krugman

breaklaw
May 12, 2008

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

You'd be amazed how many upper middle class (by NYC standards; firmly upper class by most standards) white people think Bloomberg was great because of bike lanes and citibike.

Good Bloomberg positions: the environment, public health, gay people

Bad Bloomberg positions: rich people, poor people, non-white people

Public health position is good? He got away with the smoking ban but that failed soda ban against obesity ended his national political hopes forever. No one wants a Nanny state or a leader who even thinks this way. That level of authoritarianism is just not going to fly in this country, ever.

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

breaklaw posted:

Public health position is good? He got away with the smoking ban but that failed soda ban against obesity ended his national political hopes forever. No one wants a Nanny state or a leader who even thinks this way. That level of authoritarianism is just not going to fly in this country, ever.

I agree, and thank loving God, but it often plays well around here.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

breaklaw posted:

Public health position is good? He got away with the smoking ban but that failed soda ban against obesity ended his national political hopes forever. No one wants a Nanny state or a leader who even thinks this way. That level of authoritarianism is just not going to fly in this country, ever.

I definitely wouldn't argue that they're popular but between those and the trans fat ban I don't think there's a politician whose campaigned harder against obesity other than Michelle Obama

Sashimi
Dec 26, 2008


College Slice
Bloomberg wouldn't even be the best joke candidate this cycle considering the existence of Deez Nuts.

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008


The Illuminati

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
The Draft Bloomberg movement gets another big supporter!

https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/692376567192915968

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

This is from Jan. 6 but it sounds like the kind of platform Bloomberg would run on, anti-gun, anti-sugar, etc. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/opinion/up-with-extremism.html?_r=0

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe
Is he going to end the sugar program wherein the federal government spends taxpayers money on inflating the price of sugar to 3 times the market rate?

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

guess i could post this here about bloomberg's bermuda mansion he went to while he was mayoring new york

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/04/26/nyregion/20100426BERMUDA_index.html

perhaps a discussion will ensue where people will tell me how often he went there or like any other relevant fact

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Bloomturd's claim to fame is selling New York to Russian families that pogromed his ancestors and covering it up with identity politics

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
Bloomberg does not like that Sanders got so close to winning Iowa and is moving closer to a run in response.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Well poo poo. How obstructionist is that going to be for democrats?

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Grouchio posted:

Well poo poo. How obstructionist is that going to be for democrats?

He's not gonna do it

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

in a survey ironically sponsored by his own company bloomberg's favorables were tested amongst both republican and democratic likely iowa caucus goers; each got a different list of names to describe their favorability towards and i think bloomberg was the only name on both lists

http://media.bloomberg.com/bb/avfile/r1OvZ1NeDjnY
on page 6 you'll see his favorables among democrats, split between 'very favorable, 'mostly favorable', 'mostly unfavorable', and 'very unfavorable', and 'don't know', as 2/15/17/9/57
despite much lower 'don't knows' for everyone else they asked the question about, both of bloomberg's unfavorable %s were higher than any other name they asked. his favorable scores, unsurprisingly, were lower than for anyone else

on page 13 the same question is asked of republicans who give him 1/8/20/30/41. again he has the lowest favorable numbers and the highest 'very unfavorable'. unfavorable numbers were a lot higher on the republican than the democratic side in general, so he's actually lower in the 'mostly unfavorable' category than palin, paul, christie, and bush, and only one point above trump - with much higher 'not sure's than any of them

it's just one poll, but at least in iowa the people who know who michael bloomberg was as of last weekend overwhelmingly hated him

there's theorycrafting where you take his positions and think about how people would feel about it and assign percentages of the vote to him nationwide and say he could make a difference, but i honestly think that even if he spent a billion dollars of his own money on his campaign, the end result would be that at best he would poll higher than the margin of victory in a state or three

i really don't think his candidacy would matter, and i think he's a lot more willing to tell an interviewer he's considering running than he is to actually run

oystertoadfish has issued a correction as of 04:37 on Feb 9, 2016

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT
Even if bloomberg had spent the last two years re-imaging himself in anticipation of a run, it still wouldn't work.

For republicans, he will always be the soda ban imposing, bike lane installing, greedy jew new york mayor from the planet stereotype.

For democrats, he will always be, well, michael loving bloomberg. Hearst without the charm.

He has less than no chance. He's more likely to spoil Trump than Sanders, if it comes to that.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


bernie will be 2016's mcgovern

cause the dnc establishment will knife him in the back and hand the presidency to a republican just like they did with nixon

Cornflakes
Dec 3, 2006

Condiv posted:

bernie will be 2016's mcgovern

cause the dnc establishment will knife him in the back and hand the presidency to a republican just like they did with nixon

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
are there even New Yorkers who are Bloomberg fans?


i mean besides rich fuckers

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009

Condiv posted:

bernie will be 2016's mcgovern

cause the dnc establishment will knife him in the back and hand the presidency to a republican just like they did with nixon

Very plausible. Or at this point I sincerely hope he has a good bodyguard.

Boomstick Quaid
Jan 28, 2009
Bernie doesn't need the DNC so much if he keeps getting a shitload of money

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

are there even New Yorkers who are Bloomberg fans?


i mean besides rich fuckers

cops

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Condiv posted:

bernie will be 2016's mcgovern

cause the dnc establishment will knife him in the back and hand the presidency to a republican just like they did with nixon

It's going to really screw them as a party when the GOP has control of all three branches and is long past the idea of governing responsibly or fair play. They're already pretty behind in terms of state governments so you'd think they would be pretty careful with their last real seat of power. It would be hilarious if they relegated themselves to total insignificance because of Bernie OUTRAGEOUS LEFTIST VIEWS, at least until the country collapsed. In such a scenario I'm really looking forward to the :qq: from the DNC about how it's the primary voter's fault for nominating Sanders forcing them to vote third party, unlike with Nader where everyone should have done the right thing, swallowed their pride, and voted Democrat.

Having said that I don't think he will run or even really matter than much since he's loving Bloomberg and for every financial manager Democrat he picks up some twenty five year old kid that wasn't going to vote will replace him. That's not even counting the small amount of Republicans that will vote for him because he's not Trump/Cruz.

Eggplant Squire has issued a correction as of 15:06 on Feb 10, 2016

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Condiv posted:

bernie will be 2016's mcgovern

cause the dnc establishment will knife him in the back and hand the presidency to a republican just like they did with nixon

This is why we need Trump to win the GOP candidacy. Make Bernie the lesser of two evils.

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe

The Kingfish posted:

This is why we need Trump to win the GOP candidacy. Because then whoever wins - we win.

ftfy

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


that too.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Radish posted:

:qq: from the DNC about how it's the primary voter's fault for nominating Sanders

lol if you don't think this is coming in the event of a democrat (either democrat) losing the white house, there are still people on this very heavily bern-leaning forum who hold nader and people who voted for nader responsible for the iraq war

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
Holy poo poo you guys, the Daily Beast posted election fanfiction last week

Here’s How Michael Bloomberg Becomes President ("Written" Jan. 20, 2017)

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

I just saw someone on Facebook post an "I side with" link and they got Michael Bloomberg.

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Sebadoh Gigante posted:

I just saw someone on Facebook post an "I side with" link and they got Michael Bloomberg.

I mean what kind of answers would you have to give?

Yes, I think government should limit the size of soft drinks

No, I do not believe that the top 1% own enough of the nation's wealth

Yes, I agree that the 1% should all have heavily armed security while everyone else should have their guns taken away

Yes, I agree that the homeless should be ground up into nutrient paste to help fertilize the lawn at Central Park

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

gobbagool posted:

I mean what kind of answers would you have to give?

Yes, I think government should limit the size of soft drinks

No, I do not believe that the top 1% own enough of the nation's wealth

Yes, I agree that the 1% should all have heavily armed security while everyone else should have their guns taken away

Yes, I agree that the homeless should be ground up into nutrient paste to help fertilize the lawn at Central Park

That's pretty much the manifesto of the moderate Republicans and wealthy liberals.

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DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


Just announced he's not running. Good night, sweet oligarch; may flights of sodas sing thee to thy rest.

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