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Yeah, I think the point and possibly the only thing they're taking from the comic is that Lucifer is not "evil" and is just more of a universal requirement that kind of gets a bad rap because of who wrote the book that everyone read. (Lucifer is one of the greatest comics of all time and i can't believe it was turned into this)
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2016 16:06 |
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 12:38 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:If you are going to take a stand on a show not being like the comic and how that ruins it for you, maybe pick either a better comic, or a better show, or a network that isn't broadcast. Something like the upcoming Preacher show maybe? There are't many better (semi long running) comics than Lucifer, to be fair. Lucifer is a much better read than Preacher (although Preacher is much better to adapt to TV).
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2016 18:41 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I keep coming up with these intricate plot ideas based on either how the show starts or the title, and then I get sad when the plot isn't as nifty as the one I have in my head. That's literally the kind of stuff that happened in the comic, so read that for your wish fulfillment, and watch the show for a somewhat witty at times procedural.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2016 19:03 |
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This was the first episode I can actually say I "liked," and that's probably because it was entirely about Lucifer. If they keep that up and move more away from the procedural part, that would be great.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2016 04:09 |
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counterfeitsaint posted:That was a good episode. I hope this is an indication that they're getting away from the standard procedural format. I haven't read the comics and I'm not super familiar with old testament lore, did this version of Lucifer did the whole war on heaven thing? It seems like a kinda important point to leave out or never mention. The comic version had Lucifer's rebellion. These aren't really spoilers for the show probably, and are only the premise for the comic, so I won't black anything out, but don't read if you want to go into the comic completely blind. - God is basically omnipotent, and creates Lucifer and Michael to be together as powerful as him (or close), but not apart. Lucifer can basically shape energy/matter to anything, but can't create it on his own, and Michael can make energy/matter. - Lucifer hates the idea of fate and predestination and decides to rebel against heaven. Michael/angels win, and God tosses Lucifer to the farthest possible place from him, in order to give Lucifer what he wanted in the first place. Hell grows around Lucifer there. Lucifer took it as a punishment, while it was actually a gift (and part of God's plan). The show kind of mirrored/mentioned some of that in this episode. - At one time, Lucifer led hell against heaven and lost. - Lucifer gets bored in hell (prompted by Dream/Sandman, after being tricked by him), gives it to other entities who are more generically Satan-like to rule over, and opens a piano bar in L.A. - Outside stuff keeps messing with Lucifer, bringing him back into universal stuff; he basically ends up starting an extremely long-con in order to not be bound by fate/God anymore, once and for all.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2016 17:30 |
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Snak posted:Samael is often the angel of Death, so that's kind of interesting. Lucifer isn't even Satan in the Bible, but instead was referring to some actual guy (and Satan isn't even really the Accuser in Job, either, outside of retcons). I like how he gets every somewhat related name on this show.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2016 19:27 |
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he's a chainsmoking, poo poo talking fallen cherub, if i recall correctly in the comics.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2017 01:52 |
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Rape scene? Wasn't that scene a joke-turn of events where she was going to torture him but got so turned on by the idea that they had sex instead, and he was so turned on by it, he told her everything? So instead of her brutally torturing him (which is as bad as rape), she instead got what she wanted with ultimate pleasure. Maz is near as irresistible and at good as sex as Lucifer; that's been established. Darko fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jan 4, 2018 |
# ¿ Jan 4, 2018 18:48 |
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I got kind of sad there, which I did not expect.
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# ¿ May 7, 2018 16:01 |
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That wasn't the season finale.
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# ¿ May 9, 2018 05:45 |
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Looks like they honestly thought having this cliffhanger would increase demand for the next season and force it. Oh well.
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# ¿ May 14, 2018 18:11 |
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 12:38 |
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Actually, being free of network constraints could be interesting.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2018 00:22 |