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Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

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"There's hardly been any meaningful innovation in the last few decades," they said, speaking to an instantly-updating discussion forum frequented by thousands of people across the globe.

TheImmigrant posted:

I'm 40 years old, and came of age before the Internet was really a thing. I didn't send my first email until I was a freshman in college, and that was over what today seems like Paleolithic university intranet. It would be difficult to overstate how much the Internet has changed life. The smart phone is another enormous development whose influence on social interaction hasn't even fully shaken out yet.
Yes. Basically anything involving information, like media or logistics, is massively different now. That's really the issue: most of the innovation 'back in the day' was in a totally different domain. It's unfair to compare the internet to washing machines by evaluating how much chore time it saves you, because that's not what the internet is good at (unless you're using one of those stereotypical on-demand-mommy startups). It's like evaluating washing machines on how they directly impacted people getting news.

We live in a world where even refugees have access to a constantly-updating corpus of globally accessible knowledge that they use to find services, where they can instantly communicate with friends and relatives across the entire planet at all times.

There also seems to be a double standard with regards to what innovation is considered revolutionary vs incremental. Could people get around and carry their goods before cars? Sure, via horses, trains, and boats. Cars just made it easier and faster. See? Merely incremental innovation!

Cicero fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jan 28, 2016

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Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
A very common problem I've seen on these boards with evaluating technological innovation is that when an innovation is first created, it hasn't spread yet and thus has minimal impact, and by the time it's spread and has clearly made a big impact, it's 'in the past' and doesn't count as a current innovation anymore. Basically it's nearly impossible to evaluate how impactful cutting edge innovations are, because cutting edge means they're recent and haven't had time to do much. Like let's look at something that's cutting-edge today:

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Multiple sclerosis (MS) happens when the body’s immune system learns to attack its own nerve fibres in the same way that it learns to attack invading pathogens. Nobody really understands what causes this misplaced learning. But Dr Burt’s idea did not depend on knowing that. He just wanted to wipe the memory out, in the way that the memory of a vaccination is wiped out by chemotherapy. By 2009 Dr Burt, now at Northwestern University, in Chicago, had proved that his treatment worked in patients with the most common form of the disease, relapsing remitting MS. The treatment involves using lower-dose chemotherapy to kill the white blood cells that are responsible for attacking nerve fibres, and then rebooting the immune system using stem cells collected from the patient before treatment began.

Stem cells are the source from which more specialised cells develop. Those found in bone marrow, known as hematopoietic stem cells, produce the many different cells found in blood, including the white cells implicated in MS. In Dr Burt’s therapy such stem cells are extracted from a patient, stored until after the chemotherapy, and then infused back into him. Ten days later, he can go home.

It is effective. Although there is a relapse rate of around 10% within five years, many who have been treated in randomised trials in Brazil, Britain and Sweden feel as though they have been cured. Proving they actually have been means waiting for the results of the trials, and watching how participants fare over many years. Already patients have been seen to improve for two years after treatment.
http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21688848-stem-cells-are-starting-prove-their-value-medical-treatments-curing-multiple

Obviously an awesome discovery if it works out. But assuming that it does end up successful, by the time this kind of treatment is common, it will have been many years since it was invented.

Cars were transformative, but it took decades from when they were invented until most families had one. Note that even the Model T, when it was first released, cost 40-50% more than average income for a year. That means the equivalent price today relative to personal income would be like $40,000-45,000, not exactly what most of us would call affordable. And cars had already been around for a couple of decades at that point.

Cicero fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Jan 28, 2016

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

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A big one that I don't think has been brought up: weather prediction. In particular, while normal weather prediction may be just a nicety, being able to see severe weather like blizzards or hurricanes multiple days out is incredibly useful and life-saving.

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