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I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

cumshitter posted:

The YouTube comments for Ammon's lawyer are just a bunch of SovCits accusing him of being a secret federal agent who purposely created joinder for the Bundies in court lol

Source?

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I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

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This lawyer will have them in prison for life.. he has already given the government all they need.. subject jurisdiction matter.. and as their own property.. not as a living human being with full natural and unalienable rights... These men are fried for as long as the government wants them to be fried..

quote:

So, you sold out your client to accept the legal fictional name as himself.. you are destroying his chances of being free.. He is not amenable to any of the laws of the state.. as living souls, we are the highest authority on this planet only Christ and God higher.. and they are our judges.. unless there is a victim or property damage, then there is no crime, and why did you not claim common law jurisdiction for these living human beings you call your client, and are you going to Re Present them, or will you simply give them counsel as they defend themselves?? Show me the evidence that any of the laws of the State or Federal government apply to them simply because they are physically within a line drawn on a map?? As both are corporations, show me where any of them signed a full disclosure contract in which they were obligated to follow the rules and regulations of either.. There is no signed contract is there??

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Funded Justice is a cyberbegging/crowdfunding site for defendant's seeking donations towards their legal bills, and there's probably enough material there for it's own thread. Of course many of the Bundy gang have tried to get in on the action, lets see how their fundraising is going:


Jon Ritzheimer has:

SUPPORTERS
80
PLEDGED
$3,735
TIME LEFT
15 days

Ryan Payne has:

SUPPORTERS
37
PLEDGED
$2,096
TIME LEFT
75 days

Ammon Bundy is way out in front with:

SUPPORTERS
1093
PLEDGED
$80,415
TIME LEFT
1 day


All of them have set their target to $100,000. If the target is not met they still get to keep the money.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/LesZaitz/status/704468744265805825

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/BundyRanch/status/705493714299301889

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

ecureuilmatrix posted:

Another son? Be fruitful and multiply, indeed.

He has 14 children.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/watch-ammon-bundy-interview-from-jail/66722905

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Ammon Bundy, the leader of the armed standoff at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, spoke with KGW's Kyle Iboshi during an interview from jail on Thursday, March 3.

He even has his pocket constitution in jail, bless him.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/Oregonian/status/706198263200923651

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/SassafrasSoup/status/706254580921688064

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/03/people_gather_at_federal_court.html#incart_2box

haha the photo gallery is amazing

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

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More than 100 people gather in Portland in memory of LaVoy Finicum

More than 100 men and women gathered Saturday in downtown Portland to pay homage to Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, the Oregon wildlife refuge occupier who was shot and killed by state police Jan. 26 as they moved in to arrest him.

The protesters assembled under cloudy skies in front of the Multnomah County jail in downtown Portland. For more than two hours, the park across from the detention center was home to a moving forest of signs and flags as Finicum supporters cheered and shouted. A few dozen counter-protesters kept pace with their own blow-horns and chants.

It was one several rallies planned in at least 35 states for Finicum, whose death has become a rallying point for people who believe the federal government is infringing on people's rights. Rallies were scheduled throughout the day at U.S. courthouses, public parks and capitol buildings, including in Salem, Bend and in Olympia, Washington.

Although on the whole the protest was peaceful, a shouting match began mere minutes after its 11 a.m. start.

"Keep your Bundy hands off our public lands," counter-protesters chanted, referring either to the leader of the refuge occupation, Ammon Bundy, or his father, Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy.

A pro-occupier demonstrator carrying a sign that said "Release God's People" shouted back: "No way, man, it is public land. We own it, we the people."

A central theme of this and other occupation-related protests has been the alleged federal overreach that has infringed on ranchers' rights. The occupiers had demanded that the land in eastern Oregon be handed over to local control, and that two ranchers imprisoned for burning federal land be released.

Finicum was one of dozens of militants who occupied the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in eastern Oregon for almost a month. On Jan. 26, FBI agents and Oregon State Police troopers stopped him as he and other militants were driving to a community meeting in John Day. Finicum was shot after the FBI said he reached twice for a pocket where he had a loaded 9mm pistol.

This rally and the dozens of others around the country are intended to spread awareness of the arrests of 25 refuge occupiers as well as to gather signatures in support of an investigation into Finicum's death, a spokeswoman for the Finicum family said.

A woman who said she was a second cousin to one of the arrested occupiers, Jon Ritzheimer, said she came to Portland from Eagle Point to support him because he "fought for our constitution and is standing up for his rights."

Ritzheimer, along with two dozen others associated with the 41-day occupation, is charged with conspiracy to impede a federal officer through intimidation or force. The sentence carries a maximum sentence of six years, plus fines.

Soon after the Portland rally began, the protesters marched around the park. They then gathered in the middle and organizer Kelli Stewart told them to look toward the window of the Multnomah County jail that she said was the window to Ammon Bundy's cell. In unison, the protesters saluted in that direction, then held a moment of silence, as a horn from the counter-protesters continued to blare.

A woman wearing a blue tarp, which has become a symbol for Finicum, sang the national anthem and Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the U.S.A." Finicum became known as "tarp man" after doing a series of interviews with a blue tarp over his head.

Finicum supporters were urged to not engage with counter-protesters and stuck to their script. Police had braced for the possibility that some participants might openly carry weapons, but an Oregonian/OregonLive reporter did not see any demonstrators with firearms.

Around noon the protest moved to city hall, where someone had set up a small shrine for Finicum. It consisted of a large photograph of him, 11 candles, a tarp on a lawn chair and a straw hat.

Though the two protest camps stayed mostly separated, there was some tension near the end when counter-protesters came too close for some of the Finicum ralliers' comfort.

A woman held a blow-horn as a man stood next to her holding a pole with a Snickers bar and handcuffs hanging from the end. The candy bar was a reference to occupiers' plea for snacks at the beginning of the occupation.

People gathered around the two counter-protesters as the leader of a prominent anti-government group appeared to push the man with the pole from behind. Police intervened and things quickly calmed down, though the counter-protesters did not leave.

By that point the number of protesters had gone down to a few dozen, with people planning to go to Salem for a protest there.

Finicum's death has become a flashpoint for people who see it as part of a pattern of behavior by an unjust government. Many have called his death a murder, saying Finicum was "ambushed" by law enforcement and that his death could have been avoided.

Most of the leaders of the occupation were arrested the same day Finicum died.

Many of the occupiers left voluntarily soon after. The occupation ended Feb. 11 after the last four holdouts surrendered.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008








:911:

:911:

The black bloc showed up







Goon counterprotestors:

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Investigation into LaVoy Finicum death concludes, results to be released Tuesday


Officials will announce Tuesday whether state troopers were justified in fatally shooting Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, a leader of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupation.

Finicum, 54, was killed as police tried to arrest key figures in the refuge takeover. His death on Jan. 26 spurred claims that police acted without provocation, with some labeling his death a murder. The FBI has said Finicum was shot after he tried to elude police and reached for a gun.

The Deschutes County Sheriff's Office investigated the shooting, recently turning over results to Malheur County District Attorney Dan Norris. He was asked to oversee the investigation by Tim Colahan, Harney County district attorney, to provide an independent assessment. The shooting occurred in Harney County.

A news conference is scheduled Tuesday in Bend to release the results of the investigation. The sheriff's office hasn't released the time and place publicly, asking media to send an email to the office to attend.

The announcement is expected to provide more details about what happened in the operation conducted jointly by the FBI and the Oregon State Police.

The FBI already has issued one statement and an aerial video without audio of the confrontation. It shows officers approaching Finicum and his collapse in the snow. Finicum was carrying a loaded 9mm handgun, the FBI said.

Two witnesses involved in the police stop contested some points in the FBI description of what happened. Finicum's family has said his death wasn't justified. Finicum ranched and cared for foster children on his ranch outside Colorado City, Arizona.

His widow, Jeanette, has scheduled her own news conference in St. George, Utah, for Tuesday afternoon.

The shooting occurred as a Jeep and truck carrying occupation leaders drove north on U.S. 395 to a community meeting in John Day. About 20 miles outside Burns, police stopped the Jeep carrying Ammon E. Bundy, 40, of Emmett, Idaho. Bundy was the main leader of protesters who seized the wildlife refuge headquarters three weeks earlier. Also in the Jeep were Bundy's bodyguard, Brian D. Cavalier, 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada; and the driver, Mark C. McConnell , 37, of Buckeye, Arizona.

Police also stopped the pickup driven by Finicum and carrying Ryan C. Bundy, 43, of Bunkerville, Nevada; Ryan W. Payne, 32, of Anaconda, Montana; Shawna J. Cox, 59, of Kanab, Utah; and Victoria Sharp, 18, of Lakeside, Montana. Ryan Bundy is Ammon Bundy's older brother.

The three in the Jeep surrendered to police as did Ryan Payne. The FBI video showed that Finicum then sped away from the traffic stop, crashing into a snow bank after encountering a police roadblock. The FBI later said he was shot by state troopers when he reached into his jacket for the handgun.

The Bundy brothers, Payne, Cavalier and Cox all were arrested on a federal conspiracy charge. McConnell and Sharp were released without charges. Sharp has since appeared regularly at rallies and other events in honor of Finicum and has spoken out against federal authorities. McConnell returned to Arizona and has continued to participate in a self-described patriot group, according to a recent Facebook post.

McConnell, Sharp and Cox all have recorded their own accounts of the traffic stop, which have been widely shared on social media. Cox also detailed the events of that afternoon in an interview with The Oregonian/OregonLive.

Initial claims by witnesses that Finicum was shot while he was surrendering with his hands up spurred virulent reaction in social media posts. Sharp has said Finicum was shot repeatedly and that more than 100 rounds were fired into the truck where she and the others were cowering. FBI officials have said officers fired flash-bang devices and sponge projectiles with pepper spray capsules at the truck.

Law enforcement officials have yet to release autopsy findings on Finicum's death. His family said it commissioned a subsequent private autopsy but hasn't released the results.

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/03/investigation_into_lavoy_finic.html#comments

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
"go ahead and shoot me"
"you're going to have to shoot me"

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/conradjwilson/status/707627079009841152

:getin:

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Does the superseding indictment replace all the other ones or just add more charges?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/Paulmd199/status/707790966288097280

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/ryanjhaas/status/708085355556110336

lol

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

During an interview with investigators about the shooting death of Robert “LaVoy” Finicum, an OSP officer said officials were originally considering a location in Grant County for the traffic stop operation, a newly released investigation report shows.

Had the stop occurred in Grant County, then the group would have been closer to Sheriff Glenn Palmer, and the entire interaction would have taken place within Palmer’s jurisdiction.

And that’s exactly why law enforcement opted not to make the traffic stop within Grant County boundaries, said the OSP officer, identified in the documents as “Officer No. 1.”

Law enforcement designed the Jan. 26 stop to arrest leaders of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupation.

“I knew going into it that there was a sheriff in Grant County that was supporting the movement or the ideology behind what [the occupiers] were pushing,” Officer No. 1 told investigators.


“I knew that there was a large amount of community members in Grant County that supported their beliefs … for a very simple way to put it it, they were not friendly to law enforcement conducting any enforcement actions, and mainly the Federal Bureau of Investigation and federal agencies,” the officer said.

The change of plan, which was coordinated by the FBI and OSP, is noteworthy because the militant group was reportedly planning to meet with Palmer.

In video released this week, Finicum can be heard yelling out the window of his parked truck to OSP officers.

“I’m going over to meet with the Sheriff in Grant County,” Finicum shouted. “You can come along with us and talk with us over there.”

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burn...uzq_6K0.twitter

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Cliven Bundy Refuses To Enter Plea In Nevada US Court

Jailed rancher Cliven Bundy refused to acknowledge federal authority and declined to enter a plea in a U.S. court to criminal charges that he that he led an armed standoff against federal agents two years ago.

Amid confusion about whether Bundy has a lawyer, a federal magistrate judge entered a not guilty plea on Thursday on Bundy’s behalf and scheduled a detention hearing March 17.

Arguments then will focus on whether the 69-year-old Bundy should remain in custody pending trial on 16 charges including conspiracy, assault and threatening a federal officer, obstruction and firearms offenses.

Convictions could get him life in prison.

Joel Hansen, an attorney who has represented property rights advocates in other cases around Nevada, served as Bundy’s attorney.

But Hansen says that’s temporary, and Bundy plans to get another trial lawyer.

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/cliven-bundy-refuses-to-enter-plea-nevada-court/

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
A lot of times when the IRS does criminal prosecutions of tax protestors, the defence of choice seems to be "my client was acting in good faith but is also a complete moron".

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

cumshitter posted:

Joe Rogan had a crazy rich guy on his show who said that if you use that in court the judges have to rule in your favor and then go paddle each other's butts in a secret mountain retreat.

Peter Schiff?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/OPBTOL/status/709465612502876160

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/maxoregonian/status/709772585827827712

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

citybeatnik posted:

Where can I find resources/examples of the cross-over with inner city/non-white defendants trying to utilize the "toot toot not a boat you hold no authority over me" thing? I've only seen examples of it being crazy rednecks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPXcbb53vr8

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
http://violentmetaphors.com/2016/02/09/conspirasea-day-7-i-failed/

This is a good article, about a skeptic's encounter with someone who is considering taking advice from a sovcit type to get out debt and paying taxes.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

https://www.irs.gov/Tax-Professionals/The-Truth-About-Frivolous-Tax-Arguments-Introduction

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Mr. Nice! posted:

Lawnmower duis are weekly occurrences in some parts of the country.

The south?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/killendave/status/712741355663929344

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Are you ready for some filth?

https://twitter.com/DymburtNews/status/712719280446398464

https://twitter.com/DymburtNews/status/712728144076115968

https://twitter.com/DymburtNews/status/712724751060340736

https://twitter.com/DymburtNews/status/712723840472784896

https://twitter.com/DymburtNews/status/712722677383823360

https://twitter.com/DymburtNews/status/712719845511417856

https://twitter.com/DymburtNews/status/712718973482041344

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
http://koin.com/2016/03/23/first-look-how-the-occupiers-left-malheur-refuge/?cid=twitter_KOINNews

I CBF posting them so 28 pictures of more filth

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Unless i'm very much mistaken those are the anal explosion inducing sugarfree gummi bears (half eaten) that people from the internet sent :

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Has anyone managed to find out what happened to the 54 gallon barrel of lube?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
http://twitter.com/LesZaitz/status/712627082610671616

I would blow Dane Cook has issued a correction as of 12:11 on Mar 24, 2016

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/psiphyr/status/713003691142422533

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
The Deschutes county Sheriff's office has released some of the death threats that are going around, many directed at Oregon's governor Kate Brown:

http://sheriff.deschutes.org/Media/OIS-Updates/Redacted_Threat_Examples_3222016.pdf

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Yep an hour long recording made by judge Grasty

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I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/Reagan_Girl/status/715630475092451330

It's true you know.

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