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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Praise the lord!

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Microwaves Mom posted:

I wish they would have waited 2 more weeks im pretty sure the rednecks woulda given up.

Out of cool whip and hot dogs?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Well I guess guns did solve a important problem after all.

Thanks guns!

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Young Freud posted:

Supposedly, they had a base camp at the Silver Spur Hotel and weren't really camping out at the refuge. There's a whole bunch of supplies there.

So it's survival and enduring the worst possible hardships like Bear Grylls?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Somewhere a homely mormon woman is waiting for her inbred husband to return

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

OMG JC a Bomb! posted:

I'll kill you sons of bitches

Thread is better if you read it in the Iron Sheik voice

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I hope they shoot the fat guy when he is on top of that hill so we can gif him rolling down it

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


lol

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Yeehawdists is a much better dig than Y'all Qaeda

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


Tarps can't stop fed bullets

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

SHISHKABOB posted:

This is like that loving crusader era imaginary king who the Europeans thought was out in the Middle East somewhere and would come save their butts one day.

Prester John

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Lolie posted:

When these guys get felony convictions, does the ban on them owning firearms expire after a set period or is it lifelong?

Yup it's basically a lifelong ban:
http://www.williamslawonline.com/Press-Room/Top-10-Things-Know-About-Federal-Gun-Law.shtml

NC state example

quote:

10. Can a felon ever regain the right to own a gun by having his civil rights restored? Theoretically yes, but practically no. 18 U.S.C. §§ 921(a)(20) and (a)(33)(B)(ii) say that "[a]ny conviction which has been expunged, or set aside or for which a person has been pardoned or has had civil rights restored shall not be considered a conviction for purposes of" the federal gun ban. To determine whether someone's civil right to own a gun has been restored, federal courts "look to the law of the jurisdiction of conviction . . . and consider the jurisdiction's entire body of law." United States v. O'Neal, 180 F.3d 115, 119 (4th Cir.), cert. denied, 528 U.S. 980 (1999).
This means that if a client has a North Carolina felony conviction, the federal courts will look to North Carolina law to determine if his civil rights have been restored. If they have been restored under North Carolina law, then the federal authorities will not be able to prosecute him for being a felon in possession of a gun.
The problem is that North Carolina law does not ever restore the civil right to own a gun to a felon. As of December 1, 1995, N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-415.1 provides that anyone convicted of a felony forever loses the right to own a firearm, and North Carolina makes no provision for restoration of a felon's right to own a gun. With no restoration of rights under state law, our clients can never regain their right to own a gun under federal law

So even though there is a legal route, most state laws don't have a process to allow convicted felons to get back the right to own guns.

The ATF also has a program to allow felons to get back access but Congress basically defunded the whole resources behind the process.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Plan Z posted:

Some FBI agent playing keep-away with a McDonald's bag attached to a drone.

wouldn't a tub of cool whip worker better

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

The Feds cut the head off the snake and now are hoping attrition will do the rest.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Reminder that the single count alone for obstructing federal officers carriers a 6 year federal prison sentence.

Also it's impossible to get your guns back after getting convicted of a felony.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

ha ha

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/28/464673761/fbi-is-negotiating-with-militants-still-inside-oregon-wildlife-refuge

quote:

The arrest of Bundy and the killing of LaVoy Finicum during Tuesday's arrest operation set off "chaos" inside the refuge, according to a video that was released by militants early Thursday. Like other videos, it features Fry, who set up the group's website.

"It was absolute chaos," Fry says in the video. "People were just grabbing their things ... and just fleeing, driving in their cars and zooming out. A lot of people left even their guns, lots of guns and stuff behind. I mean, that's how crazy it is."

After saying that women and children were among those who left, Fry goes on to say that despite receiving word that law enforcement agencies are willing to let people go without being charged, questions remain.

"Obviously, a lot of people are scared of being labeled terrorists — or domestic terrorists," Fry says. "So a lot of people chose to stay and just kind of see what happens."

Speaking over a video that shows a campfire in the driveway of the refuge, Fry then says, "Right now, the situation is that, out of five people left here, four of us are allowed to leave, and one of them has to — he's charged with a felony, he has a felony warrant."

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Mel Mudkiper posted:

lol we're afraid of being labeled domestic terrorists for our acts of domestic terror

Well so far they haven't done big charges against the people they arrested, just a Title 18.

The Title 18 law does carry a 6 year prison sentence in addition to being a felony type crime.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:

It was one thing when they were allowed freedom of movement from their little 'compound' and back. And now, when faced with true hard times, these brave patriots...run screaming from the building, taking the government's kind offer of no charges, and leave all of their precious guns FOR THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO INTIMIDATE PEOPLE WITH, as they run back for home to wait a few days before getting on Kickstarter and pretending that they were along the last to stand against the government and hope that someone buys the film rights.

If the U.S. Government really did go full blown authoritarian, our only 'hope' would be a bunch of weekend warriors with a gun fetish who would break the first time they didn't get a Twinkie. And that is the funniest motherfucking thing ever.

Well they didn't all get away, some got booked on the way out for Title 18 Section 372.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

From time to time the tree of federalism must be watered with the blood of sovereign citizens

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

For sale, assault rifles and pistols from the Stand-off

Great condition, never fired and dropped once

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

So the whole point this uprising was to turn a pristine federal facility into a trailer park?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Mel Mudkiper posted:

So fat guy is officially Sean Anderson


Seriously what a loving dump they turned that place into

Those fuckers also ransacked all the offices in the reserve to find evidence of federal employee wrongdoing.

Imagine coming back to work and the whole place now looks like trailer part with cigarette stubs and empty beer cans all over creation.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Cygni posted:

yeah they just put non specific stuff on your DD-214, but you still get a DD-214.

Yeah it's pretty silly to assume being in the special forces means you would have no record of service from the government

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Feds return and are confused why the breakroom fridge is filled to the top with Cool Whip/Hot Dogs

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Please don't compare the YeeHawdists to Ewoks, Ewoks were actually effective in battle and didn't run away

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

InterFaced posted:

You know come to think of it when the ewoks win and they hug and waddle back and forth it looks a lot like that fat looser's last dance.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

From we will fight to the death to please don't book and arrest us:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oregon-militia-standoff-holdouts-offer-to-leave-with-one-condition/

quote:

One of the last holdouts in the armed takeover of an Oregon wildlife refuge said Thursday the remaining five occupiers will leave if they receive assurances none of them will be arrested.

In a video posted on the YouTube channel "DefendYourBase" that the group has been using to issue updates during the nearly 4-week-old siege, a speaker believed to be David Fry said the occupiers have been told by authorities that "out of five people left here, four of us are allowed to leave."

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

They should be glad they are only getting charged with a single crime.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

InterFaced posted:

I'm guessing once the refuge is back in the hands of the government there will be a shitload of other charges.

I hope so, carrying a weapon into a federal facility has a 1 year sentence in federal prison.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Young Freud posted:

I was theorizing that he probably did use the children as free labor on their ranch, but looking that they took nothing but boys and they ran through 50 of them in a decade tells me I'm not that far from the mark.

\/\/\/ Goddamnit :laffo:

It was free slave labor and also 110,000 per year from the private catholic charity per year.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

VikingSkull posted:

e- holy poo poo someone plz edit tarpman into dornermemorial.jpg

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

ThePeavstenator posted:

I'm okay with this because Feds are a surgical knife when it comes to who they arrest/investigate/kill while in comparison local police forces are wood chippers.

FBI agents also have higher physical and mental standards than your local joe dirt PD.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Still can't decide what is best

Walmatyrs
Y'All Qaeda
Vanilla ISIS
Yeehawists

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Uncle Enzo posted:

I find it deeply satisfying that the dude who'd written a book whose triumphant ending was him drawing a gun and shooting 3 armed federal agents before any of them have a chance to raise their weapons and fire, was killed while trying to slowly and obviously draw a pistol to fire on lawmen. Like, This is irony. This is a man meeting his just desserts.

lol

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Finicum was killed because he didn't have his tarp.

It's like King Arthur losing Excalibur.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

King of Bees posted:

"Boys, you don't practice every day of your life for forty years with a six shooter to...oh gently caress!" *pop pop pop*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHG-ibZaKM

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Lodin posted:

Good soldiers. They made a loving pigsty out of the place.

They couldn't organize and clean their bedrooms.

What makes them think they could organize and overthrow the whole federal government?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

lol

- Tarp Dude, author of a book about a badass quickdraw gunfighter and doomsday prepper, spends his final days wondering why he didn't bring food. In a showdown with police he bumbled like Jerry Lewis trying to get his gun out of the holster and was annihilated by a slow-moving chubby state trooper.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Very nice government strategy
-Remove all the leadership figures
-cut off road access to the refugee to keep more supplies and multia from reaching Fort Dildo
-Manipulate most of the remaining militia into surrendering or leaving the refugee
-last few occupiers are much easier to take down

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

The Goatfather posted:

Well here's how federal charges work in america, whether it's drugs or guns or armed revolt: the procecutor shows you a laundry list of 25 laws you technically broke, adding up to 250 years in prison. He promises to make you serve every day of 250 years unless you waive your right to a trial and plead guilty to a subset of charges worth maybe 5-10, at which point the rest of the charges are dropped. Over 90% of federal cases never go to trial and are settled in this manner. Bundy's offer surely has some strings attached regarding how and when his followers go home, which is why he changed his tune immediately after he was taken into custody.

Yeah the original Title 18 Law has 6 year max prison sentence and carrying a firearm into a federal facility has a 1 year prison sentence.

Plus I'm sure there's a laundry list of other offenses they could levy against the Y'all Qaeda.

So most likely Bundy has already taken a plea bargain with Feds which had stipulations such as cooperating with the authorities.

I imagine the deal had something like only a 3-4 year federal prison sentence.

etalian has issued a correction as of 19:48 on Jan 30, 2016

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