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I'ma be devil's advocate for a moment here; 'Psychotic pedophile' seems like strong language and the child abuse stuff was for sure overblown in a few ways. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koresh#Accusations_of_child_abuse_and_statutory_rape posted:Finally, the FBI's justification for forcing an end to the 51-day standoff was predicated on the charge that Koresh was abusing children inside Mount Carmel Center. In hours following the deadly conflagration, Attorney General Janet Reno told reporters that "We had specific information that babies were being beaten."[17] But FBI Director William Sessions publicly denied the charge and told reporters that they had no such information about child abuse inside Mount Carmel Center.[18] A careful examination of the other child abuse charges found the evidence to be weak and ambiguous, casting doubt on the allegations.[19] And the government surely did SOMETHING wrong; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege#Aftermath posted:Attorney General Reno had specifically directed that no pyrotechnic devices be used in the assault.[69] Between 1993 and 1999, FBI spokesmen denied (even under oath) the use of any sort of pyrotechnic devices during the assault; however, pyrotechnic Flite-Rite CS gas grenades had been found in the rubble immediately following the fire. In 1999, FBI spokesmen were forced to admit that they had used the grenades; however, they claimed that these devices—which dispense CS gas through an internal burning process—had been used during an early morning attempt to penetrate a covered, water-filled construction pit 40 yards away,[69] and were not fired into the building itself. According to FBI claims, the fires started approximately three hours after the grenades had been fired.[69] When the FBI's documents were turned over to Congress for an investigation in 1994, the page listing the use of the pyrotechnic devices was missing.[69] The failure for six years to disclose the use of pyrotechnics despite her specific directive led Reno to demand an investigation.[69] A senior FBI official told Newsweek that as many as 100 FBI agents had known about the use of pyrotechnics, but no one spoke up until 1999.[69] On May 12, less than a month after the incident, Texas state authorities bulldozed the site, rendering further gathering of forensic evidence impossible. That said I agree with the court that the federal agents were attempting to serve lawful warrants when they were fired upon so ofc they can defend themselves. I just think maybe the gov't went a little too overboard and they didn't fully explore peaceful options (I think someone convinced Koresh of an alternate interpretation of Revelation and he was writing a manuscript but the gov't didn't want to wait? not sure about that). Moridin920 has issued a correction as of 17:39 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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The Kingfish posted:Idk maybe the Feds didn't have to pump their house full of flammable chemicals. Yeah there was fault on both sides imo
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