Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
field balm
Feb 5, 2012

This stuff is still not as good as actual PS1 graphics. Like most aesthetics it is cool when done well and usually very Bad when it is not (which is most of the time). Designers Republic did cool stuff in a vaguely similar way, Japanese inspired Euro-minimalism or something? Their print stuff is good, but their video game work really holds up (wipeout etc).

Parappa the Rappa stands out as a really unique aesthetic for the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmKFp73fC4c
My partner still finds the animation genuinely unsettling, which I think is a strength of early 3d art that almost increases overtime.

Marcel Duchamp's The Bride Stripped Bare by Her Bachelors, Even


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bride_Stripped_Bare_by_Her_Bachelors,_Even

Modernist stuff in general is really interesting and I will do an effort post about it sometime if this thread doesn't disappear.

Also, lets get Beksinski out of the way. I feel like the landscapes especially are really starting to show their influence.





E: lol thought this literally meant post your favourite aesthetics. well cya

field balm has a new favorite as of 12:41 on Jan 27, 2016

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

field balm
Feb 5, 2012

Stinky_Pete posted:

I think there's room in this thread for a lot of that stuff that you just posted, especially that Duchamp piece which is crazy to me that it's from before 1930.

Nice, I'm glad someone enjoyed, I'll try and talk about some more relevant stuff for a while.

I think it was a good move not to use the term vaporwave for the thread - I guess this aesthetic probably does need a term to describe it, but vaporwave seems unnecessarily constrictive when you really consider how much influence it has taken from media/new media (over the past 30 years or so especially). Basically, I don't think it's as niche a genre as it thinks it is, and is not as 'retro' as most people consider it.

The idea of re-use, re-contextualization and manipulation of existing assets has always been important in certain styles of art and this is just a certain era's version of it, where the consumers and creators range from people who enjoyed/consumed the media it evokes the first time round to people who are experiencing it for the first time in this context.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palimpsest

I think that it might be important that it occurred at the end of a 'retro' cycle - we'd gone through 70's, 80's, 90's and early 2000 nostalgia and caught up with ourselves. I'm not particularly knowledgable about visual art, so I'm going to focus on the audio side for a bit, but I will stress that I think the visual side of the aesthetic will be more important/lasting over time.


This image especially, I think is meant to evoke older windows (95/xp?), the bliss background, and the relaxing sound design? These sounds are famously made by Brian Eno, the forefather of modern ambient music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUbjTapNImM. He also made a lot of the diagetic sounds for windows, which are used as percussive and melodic samples in a lot of this stuff.

What I recognise as the first 'big' vaporwave thing is this track by blank banshee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sGT3tmZJ5s. Importantly, it is sampled pretty much wholesale from a track from Donkey Kong Country https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4XCk2HFdNc.

Sampling in music is not really a new thing, but the context is kind of unique. Likewise I assume most of the visuals in the video are made using the stock assets in some kind of early 3d animation software.

As far as the Brutalism thing goes, I think the appreciation of the visual style is similarly removed from the original context of what these buildings (at least the British and Communist style ones for living in) stood for to the people who existed in and around them when they were built. Having said that, I also love the style, but more for educational and government buildings than housing. As far as media goes, there is also a generation that will continue to grow up with a nostalgia for low-poly anything (imagine I posted pictures of cool Quake levels and stuff here).

Stinky_Pete posted:

Though as far as Parappa the Rappa et al, appropriation of images from PS1 stuff out of context would be more fitting, but I also like to hear about source material and what it means to you.

For example, I never had a PS1 and my friends only had Nintendo and Sega, so Parappa the Rappa to me is more of a bygone element that I recognize only from marginal appearances elsewhere (like the back of a Simpsons comic book I read once).

I think you might have hit something here, and I kinda have now convinced myself that vaporwave is maybe a decent name for this aesthetic, in the abstract. There is a kind of naivety to it - you see images, or video or whatever an unreleased/nonexistent game (vaporware) you go to all kind of crazy places in your head about how cool and good it could be, and I guess the aesthetic is the future a couple of generations are thinking about in a similar way.

I'll talk more about some PS1 and modernist stuff soon because I'm drinking and rambling but there are definitely some interesting things about to talk about here!

E: to contribute, here is an actual thing from my childhood:

field balm has a new favorite as of 07:42 on Jan 28, 2016

  • Locked thread