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Sometimes you listen to some cumtown and you think "hey, I'm cumtown too" and then you piss off all your online friends. I see that now and hopefully we can move on
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the bisexuals gave the snakes tits i know what you meant
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Jul 24, 2023 21:22
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AtillatheBum posted:I barely remember the Chimera squad people, just Godmother and her shotgun and snake lady. I still remember a ton of my Xcom rando people though like my sniper Jane Doe who killed 11 floaters on overwatch in one mission or "Del" who died three times in one Ironman campaign(he died on a mission which then glitched out so I had to replay it where he lived, then he died again on a later mission and then a new recruit I got later had the exact same name and appearance as him and who also died) You don't remember claymore, the calm collected man that hadn't heard of bringing them in
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Jul 24, 2023 21:30
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It is true that everyone's quippy sarcasm kinda all blended together. I didn't hate the characters or anything, but they were so thin that it kinda feels like they may as well have done random squaddies again and saved their writing/VA budget for the rest of the plot. I hope they go back to random disposable-until-you-love-them soldiers if/when XCOM3 comes out.
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Jul 24, 2023 21:35
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Akratic Method posted:It is true that everyone's quippy sarcasm kinda all blended together. I didn't hate the characters or anything, but they were so thin that it kinda feels like they may as well have done random squaddies again and saved their writing/VA budget for the rest of the plot. I do hope we keep non-human soldiers though, they had a lot more fun with their kits and got really weird with some of their stuff.
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Jul 24, 2023 21:38
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I don't remember any of my XCOM randos. In the moment they're just like "one of the x weapons".
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Jul 24, 2023 21:40
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Hogama posted:I don't remember any of my XCOM randos. In the moment they're just like "one of the x weapons". Well, you've gotta give them a name and then make them look like their name and then put them in the library. Every time Dale Gribble shows up, I'll think of his successful career as a sniper. Margaret Schroeder? No better medic in the field. And who could forget: Hans Panzerfaust, the German robot.
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Jul 24, 2023 21:44
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Hogama posted:I don't remember any of my XCOM randos. In the moment they're just like "one of the x weapons". I felt this way in firaxcom 1 vanilla, but with training roulette in 1 and the character editor in 2, I definitely felt like they stood out as individuals more. I still remember the ranger I took to endgame on my first playthrough was Robert Muldoon and his trusty shotgun Clever Girl. Oh and my army of predator rejects chomping on big old cigars. Those guys were great.
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Jul 24, 2023 21:44
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the most memorable soldier from my last xcom 2 campaign was frylock because, rumor had it, he was actually a box of fries
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Jul 24, 2023 21:51
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Yeah I tend to start to get more familiar with my A-squad at least by the endgame, although I wouldn't be able to tell you any of their names after like a week of not playing. I think this is just one of those things that different people respond to differently; some people lean into the fiction and like to build stories around their squad while others can't suspend their disbelief and have trouble seeing them as anything other than a collection of randomly shuffled costume parts. I tend to remember them more based on whatever unique abilities they might have rolled or been granted by a special piece of equipment - I tend to like to vary my builds rather than having all my heavies or whoever using the exact same skill picks, so that can make them a bit more individually distinct even if it's not particularly optimal (snipers in 1 were a bit of an exception because like, as neat as mobile sniper sounds on paper, squadsight was just such an overwhelmingly obvious pick that it kind of dictated the whole build for every sniper).
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Jul 24, 2023 21:55
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I always add the two most memorable squad mates from every campaign toy library but I couldn't tell you much about them.
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Jul 24, 2023 22:04
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I whipped up elaborate stories (both backstories and ongoing narratives based on what happened in the campaign) for my squaddies in XCOM2 and I thought Chimera Squad's agents were fine and enjoyed their dialogue and banter. They're all decent to a degree but Torque, Verge, and Axiom were genuinely entertaining in distinct ways and I would genuinely like to see more of them moving forward, however uncertain the timetable for "forward" is.
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Jul 24, 2023 22:27
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Torque's basically just a second-generation immigrant who fell into the conservative hole and started shittalking naturalized immigrants, except instead of a human ethnicity she's a snake. If you come from a family of nonwhite immigrants you probably can identify a relative like that. Verge is a giant dork who's sincere and enthusiastic about food he can't eat. Axiom is... okay he's basically Wrex with the serial numbers filed off. Also Blueblood might be a cop cop but he's the platonic ideal of the Gunslinger-build Sharpshooter and he isn't burdened by carrying around a vestigal sniper rifle. The guy's a one-man army about on par with some the most broken set of mod perks you can find on the steam workshop.
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Jul 24, 2023 22:35
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Dorkopotamis posted:Experience the game and tell me you can't profile the writer Sounds like you need to play Jagged Alliance buddy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMAKmaNiAas&t=3233s
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Jul 24, 2023 22:44
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I can profile the straight white man who wrote that EDIT: Game developers, outside of a few exceptions, tend to not be very good writers
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Jul 24, 2023 22:52
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Dorkopotamis posted:Sometimes you listen to some cumtown and you think "hey, I'm cumtown too" and then you piss off all your online friends. I see that now and hopefully we can move on Didn't we  the cumtown thread or do I misremember?
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Jul 24, 2023 22:54
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StratGoatCom posted:Didn't we It's a known fact that people who like that show are bad. People who like the show and talk about it and try to iterate on it in someway, often come off as neo nazis I didn't know there was a thread and wouldn't read it if it exists I do thinks Nick Mullen is a very funny guy and the show was/is very funny in a broad comedy type of way that either no longer exists as a genre, or has moved so far right as to not be observable as comedy and instead more as a political act EDIT: I REALLY LIKE SPARKS. I THINK THEY ARE THE BEST CLASS IN XCOM 2, THE GAME OF THIS THREAD George Sex - REAL fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Jul 24, 2023 |
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Jul 24, 2023 23:01
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Dorkopotamis posted:I can profile the straight white man who wrote that I think it's good writing personally but I have low standards and love the character of MD. His whole thing is being out of his element. He most likely thought he signed up for Doctors without Borders but accidentally joined a group of Mercenaries instead. Whenever he gets a kill it is such a surprise that it improves everyone's morale.
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Jul 24, 2023 23:13
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Fighting Elegy posted:I think it's good writing personally but I have low standards and love the character of MD. His whole thing is being out of his element. He most likely thought he signed up for Doctors without Borders but accidentally joined a group of Mercenaries instead. Whenever he gets a kill it is such a surprise that it improves everyone's morale. I think JA3 is a very good game and in an XCOM 3-less world, I am grateful for its existence. I don't think the game is meant to be a writing/story forward type product. It doesn't bother me I think it's one of the better TBS games I've played in the last few years. ...Battle Brothers is also amazing. Unrelated to anything else
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Jul 24, 2023 23:16
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Dorkopotamis posted:I recognize Chimera Squad is probably a good game, but I couldn't get into it. Hey I'm glad you walked this back, but gosh
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Jul 24, 2023 23:19
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Any contrition I may have demonstrated: I take back I stand by my belief that Chimera Squad has strong bisexual energy
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Dorkopotamis posted:Any contrition I may have demonstrated: I take back remain strong friend, you can post through this
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I do agree directionally with what I think Dorkopotamis meant that Chimera Squad felt like I was playing a weird total conversion based on someone's OC DO NOT STEAL xcom extended universe fanfic characters. Like, it was a jarring tonal shift from the rest of xcom and felt like a Saturday Morning Cartoon written by someone who had watched some xcom 2 cutscenes on youtube, I guess? It just had a vibe that immediately and abrasively turned me away from it, unironically it was the exact same way I felt when I bought X-Com: Enforcer sight unseen as a kid and excitedly rushed home only to find out after installing it that it wasn't actually a new x-com game, but at least I only paid 60 cents or something for Chimera Squad.
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Jul 24, 2023 23:37
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I think there's a difference between 'I don't really enjoy the vibe, it feels forced' and 'the game dev is probably bisexual, ugh' which is how that first post came across.
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Jul 24, 2023 23:42
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HopperUK posted:'the game dev is probably bisexual, ugh' which is how that first post came across. Well, that's on you. While I admit, the best posts leave room for a great variety of interpretation, I must apparently clarify: I see nothing wrong with being edgy, or bisexual. I even think that Chimera Squad, perhaps the most bisexual game in my library, to probably be very good
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Dorkopotamis posted:Well, that's on you. While I admit, the best posts leave room for a great variety of interpretation, I must apparently clarify: I see nothing wrong with being edgy, or bisexual. I even think that Chimera Squad, perhaps the most bisexual game in my library, to probably be very good I don't think it's on me. But I'm willing to grant it isn't what you meant. I didn't really play too far into Chimera Squad, I should pick it up again.
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Dorkopotamis posted:EDIT: I REALLY LIKE SPARKS. I THINK THEY ARE THE BEST CLASS IN XCOM 2, THE GAME OF THIS THREAD I bought all the 'Sparks are underpowered' bullshit and didn't bother building one for my second playthrough until I'd gotten to plasma and was noticing my A and B teams were often down with tiredness/injury at the same time, a problem I didn't have as much on game 1 when I had an early Spark. I guess just having a tireless robot you can plug into any squad helps give everyone a bit more of a breather. Also I didn't use the training center at all in my first playthrough but Sparks like Specialists really benefit from being able to just buy both trees, so despite being a late addition I felt like Spark-Julian (initially nicknamed Lancelot but I changed that to Mordred) really pulled his weight. On the topic of memorable randos, I still remember Rudi Schultz, my one man alien base clearing badass from my first win of 90s XCOM. I also remember Gunter Meyer, his replacement in Terror From The Deep who was probably even more badass given that game's higher difficulty, but he was never quite as cool.
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Despite what I said about it Chimera Squad seems like a totally competent and probably fun tactical strategy game outside of its vibe being jarring to me and I'll maybe go back to it after JA3 and BG3
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Chimera Squad is really fun. My biggest issue with it honestly was Zephyr just arbitrarily not getting damage upgrades so she falls off hard
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Shyrka posted:I bought all the 'Sparks are underpowered' bullshit and didn't bother building one for my second playthrough until I'd gotten to plasma and was noticing my A and B teams were often down with tiredness/injury at the same time, a problem I didn't have as much on game 1 when I had an early Spark. I guess just having a tireless robot you can plug into any squad helps give everyone a bit more of a breather. When the chips are down and everyone has turned their back on you, you'll always have someone reliable in your corner: a spark. With weapon upgrades and veterancy, they're really good, stacking up well against most squadies unless you really start to factor in implants, training, bonds... etc. Their potency cap is lower than most squadies, but they can't let you down and in commander/veteran they can really take a punishing like squadies can't. They're powerful and consistent and I always find myself wanting to bring one on a mission I recognize they're probably less good at higher levels of difficulty, but the game requires stricter playstyles, generally, at higher difficulty
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People said that a bunch, but I found her to more shift from damage to comical levels of cc over a run. She absolutely contributed solidly all game for me and I never felt disappointed rolling her. Combine her with the specialists also comical cc and you could lock down entire maps indefinitely. E: Also, sparks were less bad units and more just... disappointing. Something about all their animations and stuff just felt anemic at all times, be it punching or using their bit as a bomb. They just weren't satisfying to use, and drew comparisons to mech troopers which were incredibly satisfying to use, at all times. FoolyCharged fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Jul 25, 2023 |
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This is great. No, this is actually what I wanted
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I thought Chimera Squad was an awesome surprise and a great deal, and something I really don't want XCOM to keep doing in the slightest. For one, I do think the writing was terrible and it's no real surprise that they went and did a Marvel game right afterwards because, yeah, that fits. Then there's the fact that the actual combat just felt repetitive after a while with little room for the experimentation the mainline games encourage. Like, I pretty much never moved my mans because all I wanted to do was have everyone shooting/using abilities. A neat little spinoff and testing ground that I hope remains nothing more.
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I dunno I really liked Chimera Squad and feel like they could improve it. I do want an X-Com 3 but there's room for more than one game
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Dorkopotamis posted:Sometimes you listen to some cumtown Why would you just admit you are into a racist / homophobic podcast which has legit a nazi-adjacent host?
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 I recently finished Chimera Squad, and really liked it. I feel it's only one expansion/DLC/mod from being a great game. Like, it's a game about being cops, how don't you have interrogation scenes? Make you have to capture a enemy alive, and you can choose which of your guys is the good cop and bad cop (Torque always wants to be the bad cop). But I agree with some of this threads complaints, it needs more enemy types,less quips,more mission variance,more sectoid Alex Jones and to actually let me use my mechs without having to lose someone first. For the price and length it was though, it was a surprisingly good and fun game, and a great place to experiment instead of XCOM 3.
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not a bot posted:Why would you just admit you are into a racist / homophobic podcast which has legit a nazi-adjacent host? Fucken lol. Lmao.
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not a bot posted:Why would you just admit you are into a racist / homophobic podcast which has legit a nazi-adjacent host? I think it might be time for me to go
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Sparks are disappointing because there is no extremely excellent punching an Andromedon into next week animation.
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Jetamo posted:Sparks are disappointing because there is no extremely excellent punching an Andromedon into next week animation. People focus on the punching, but everything about them feels really floaty and not in touch. The ability where the spark detonate its bit as a portable grenade? Doesn't do cover damage, doesn't really have a graphical effect, just "boop" chip damage in an area. You can probably still hear all the machinery noises from a mech trooper stomping around, but even just moving a spark doesn't feel like a big giant robot man. And their gun sounds downright dinky when compared to the big old charge and boom mech troopers used to have. Heck, do their guns even get a different sound effect from normal troopers?
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