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 A LASTCAR/Kidc/CBJ collaboration.  What is NASCAR? Founded and operated by the France family, also owners of International Speedway Corporation (ISC; as I found out on hold with them, “the world’s premier motorsports entertainment company”), the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing was formed in 1948 by Bill France, Sr., who wanted an organized set of rules for his grassroots racing series. In the 1970s, he passed the torch to his son, Bill Jr., who led NASCAR through a meteoric rise into the American mainstream. The torch was again passed to his son, Brian, in 2004, and it...didn’t go as well. Brian has proceeded to drunkenly plow his Porsche through NASCAR, continuing to make changes many fans hate in an effort to run with the NFL. We now have Franchises, Sudden Death Overtime, the Playoffs and March Madness, Game 7, a Stadium, and even a shot clock, all in the face of dropping ratings and dwindling attendance causing NASCAR to tear down sections of grandstands so they can say “Look! A sellout again!”. Despite this, there’s a lot to like about this sport. Much of the stupidity you’ll read about through the OP isn’t the fault of the drivers or teams, very much worth pulling for. There are a number of personalities, ranging from fun guys like Clint Bowyer and Tony Stewart, underdogs like Martin Truex, Jr., and (if it’s your type) competitive heels like Kyle Busch and Brad Keselowski. There’s a new aero package which will hope to improve the quality of racing. And there’s a place to talk about it with like-minded individuals. Welcome to SASCAR.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpPgmxjkTW8 We’ll talk in this OP in the most detail about the Sprint Cup Series, the premier division of NASCAR. Get caught up on current events and learn more about Cup below! 2015 Summary -ChaMpion*- quote:“Kyle Busch, who missed 11 races because ISC cheaped out on the SAFER barriers and he got hurt in a race he shouldn’t even really have been in, was given an exemption to allow him to make the Chase if he won and finished Top 30 in points. He did it easily with four wins and can reeeeeeeeeeeally make this the most bullshit playoff system in sports!” -The Drive for Five is -Quintessential NASCAR: During the Chase, Joey Logano turned Matt Kenseth out of the lead at Kansas. Looking for retribution, Kenseth, multiple laps down due to a wreck at Martinsville, wrecked the poo poo out of him right back. It was later said Kenseth had planned to wreck JoLo at Martinsville if at all because it would allow Joey two more races to try to advance to the final round. This premeditation put NASCAR into the precarious position of promoting their playoffs while not devolving completely into bloodsport. “Quintessential NASCAR”, uttered by Brian France to praise the hard racing at Kansas, became both a meme and a term used in a pejorative manner (even by the sport’s media) toward literally everything in this sport. -Dropped Call: It was announced that 2016 will be the final season for Sprint as title sponsor of NASCAR’s top series. No replacement has been named, but it’ll be interesting to see who ponies up the money NASCAR will ask for the privilege. -Throwback Sunday: I don’t get to say this often, but NASCAR did something very right. They moved Darlington’s Southern 500 back to its traditional Labor Day weekend date, and did it go well. NASCAR and its teams went all out with a “throwback” theme, complete with over 30 retro paint schemes, and NBC handing the race broadcast to legendary commentators Ken Squier and Ned Jarrett for about 100 laps. It’s believed there’ll be a repeat this year. Dale Jr. is already talking about a Buddy Baker “Grey Ghost” tribute scheme. -Pushback: Following in the footsteps of the Race Team Alliance, the drivers themselves publicly aligned against NASCAR last season. Once upon a time, this was something literally punishable by death, but realizing that might dent their image in the modern world, NASCAR instead caved and held a series of meetings regarding their issues with, and hopes and concerns for the sport. -  ...courtesy of LASTCAR.info: http://brock.lastcar.info/ TWENTY-EIGHT LAST-PLACE FINISHES #59-Michael McDowell (Leavine Family - Circle Sport Racing)* FOURTEEN LAST-PLACE FINISHES #32-Bobby Labonte (Go Green Racing)** #83-Michael Waltrip (BK Racing) TEN LAST-PLACE FINISHES #40-Reed Sorenson (Hillman Racing) NINE LAST-PLACE FINISHES #38-Landon Cassill (Front Row Motorsports) EIGHT LAST-PLACE FINISHES #88-Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (Hendrick Motorsports) #14-Brian Vickers (Stewart-Haas Racing)*** SEVEN LAST-PLACE FINISHES #14-Tony Stewart (Stewart-Haas Racing)*** #31-Ryan Newman (Richard Childress Racing) SIX LAST-PLACE FINISHES #11-Denny Hamlin (Joe Gibbs Racing) #41-Kurt Busch (Stewart-Haas Racing)+ #43-Aric Almirola (Richard Petty Motorsports) #47-A.J. Allmendinger (JTG-Daugherty Racing) FIVE LAST-PLACE FINISHES #18-Kyle Busch (Joe Gibbs Racing) #30-Josh Wise (The Motorsports Group) FOUR LAST-PLACE FINISHES #6-Trevor Bayne (Roush-Fenway Racing) #15-Clint Bowyer (HScott Motorsports) #35-David Gilliland (Front Row Motorsports) #16-Greg Biffle (Roush-Fenway Racing) #78-Martin Truex, Jr. (Furniture Row Racing) THREE LAST-PLACE FINISHES #13-Casey Mears (Germain Racing) TWO LAST-PLACE FINISHES #20-Matt Kenseth (Joe Gibbs Racing) #21-Ryan Blaney (Wood Brothers Racing) #23-David Ragan (BK Racing) #27-Paul Menard (Richard Childress Racing) #46-Michael Annett (HScott Motorsports)++ #98-Cole Whitt (Premium Motorsports) ONE LAST-PLACE FINISH #1-Jamie McMurray (Chip Ganassi Racing) #3-Austin Dillon (Richard Childress Racing) #5-Kasey Kahne (Hendrick Motorsports) #10-Danica Patrick (Stewart-Haas Racing) #19-Carl Edwards (Joe Gibbs Racing)+ #22-Joey Logano (Penske Racing) #42-Kyle Larson (Chip Ganassi Racing) #44-Brian Scott (Richard Petty Motorsports) NO LAST-PLACE FINISHES (YET) #2-Brad Keselowski (Penske Racing) #4-Kevin Harvick (Stewart-Haas Racing) #7-Regan Smith (Tommy Baldwin Racing) #17-Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. (Roush-Fenway Racing) #24-Chase Elliott (Hendrick Motorsports) #26-Robert Richardson, Jr. (BK Racing) #32-Jeffrey Earnhardt (Go Green Racing)** #34-Chris Buescher (Front Row Motorsports) #48-Jimmie Johnson (Hendrick Motorsports) #93-Matt DiBenedetto (BK Racing)+++ #95-Ty Dillon (Leavine Family - Circle Sport Racing)* UNKNOWN #49-TBD (Premium Motorsports) *Michael McDowell and Ty Dillon are splitting time in the #95 car in 2016, which between both drivers will run the whole season. Leavine Family Racing has merged with Circle Sport and will run Richard Childress equipment in at least some of those races. McDowell drives the Open #59 at Daytona. **Bobby Labonte is expected to run 4 races in the #32 starting with the Daytona 500 with rookie Jeffrey Earnhardt running most of the remaining 32 events. ***Tony Stewart was injured in an ATV accident on February 2 and will be relieved by Brian Vickers and Ty Dillon for the first few races of 2016. Vickers will run during SpeedWeeks. Boldfaced drivers indicate one of the 36 chartered teams at the start of 2016 season. The charter team roster is subject to change based on the team’s performance in 2016. +The #41 and #19 purchased charters from the defunct Michael Waltrip Racing #15 and #55. ++The #46 leased the charter owned by Premium Motorsports’ #98 (formerly the #62 in 2015), meaning Premium’s car is now an Open team. +++Matt DiBenedetto will race the Open #93 in the Daytona 500, but will run the chartered #83 for the rest of the season. Michael Waltrip is locked-in with the #83 for the 500.  FOX / FS1 2/13 8:00PM - Daytona International Speedway (Sprint Unlimited) FOX 2/18 7&8:30PM - Daytona International Speedway (Can-Am Duels) FS1 2/21 1:00PM - Daytona International Speedway (Daytona 500) FOX 2/28 1:00PM - Atlanta Motor Speedway FOX 3/6 3:30PM - Las Vegas Motor Speedway FOX 3/13 3:30PM - Phoenix International Raceway FOX 3/20 3:30PM - Auto Club Speedway FOX 4/3 1:00PM - Martinsville Speedway FS1 4/9 7:30PM - Texas Motor Speedway FOX 4/17 1:00PM - Bristol Motor Speedway FOX 4/24 1:00PM - Richmond International Raceway FOX 5/1 1:00PM - Talladega Superspeedway FOX 5/7 7:30PM - Kansas Speedway FS1 5/15 1:00PM - Dover International Speedway FS1 5/21 7:00PM - Charlotte Motor Speedway (Sprint All-Star Race) FS1 5/29 6:00PM - Charlotte Motor Speedway (Coca-Cola 600) FOX 6/5 1:00PM - Pocono Raceway FS1 6/12 1:00PM - Michigan International Speedway FS1 6/26 3:00PM - Sonoma Raceway FS1 NBC / NBCSN / CNBC / USA 7/2 7:45PM - Daytona International Speedway (Coke Zero 400) NBC 7/9 7:30PM - Kentucky Speedway NBCSN 7/17 1:30PM - New Hampshire Motor Speedway NBCSN 7/24 3:00PM - Indianapolis Motor Speedway NBCSN 7/31 1:30PM - Pocono Raceway NBCSN 8/7 2:30PM - Watkins Glen International USA due to Olympics 8/20 8:00PM - Bristol Motor Speedway NBCSN 8/28 2:00PM - Michigan International Speedway NBCSN 9/4 6:00PM - Darlington Raceway NBC 9/10 7:00PM - Richmond International Raceway NBCSN **THE CHASE - ROUND OF 16 9/18 2:30PM - Chicagoland Speedway NBCSN 9/25 2:00PM - New Hampshire Motor Speedway NBCSN 10/2 2:00PM - Dover International Speedway NBCSN **THE CHASE - ROUND OF 12 10/8 7:00PM - Charlotte Motor Speedway NBC 10/16 2:15PM - Kansas Speedway NBC 10/23 2:00PM - Talladega Superspeedway NBCSN **THE CHASE - ROUND OF 8 10/30 1:00PM - Martinsville Speedway NBCSN 11/6 2:00PM - Texas Motor Speedway NBC 11/13 2:30PM - Phoenix International Raceway NBC **THE CHASE - CHAMPIONSHIP ROUND 11/20 2:30PM - Homestead-Miami Speedway NBC  -The Chase is NASCAR’s version of the PLAYOFFS Y’ALL, and we were told as much last year by NBC and NASCAR who apparently really want the “Playoffs” qualifier added to the name. It debuted in 2004 and, after having three previous formats, NASCAR landed on its fourth format in 10 years in 2014: NASCAR Most Extreme Elimination Challenge, which has 16 drivers, whittled down elimination-style every three races until the Final Four completely throw the points system out the window in favor of a “Highest Finisher In This One Race Takes All” showdown at Homestead. All three top series will have this format for the first time in 2016. Here's a visual breakdown:  -NASCAR is very liberal with the application of the rules, granting exemptions where it sees fit to make this as exciting as possible. Case in point, last year’s champ, Kyle Busch. We’re still waiting on how NASCAR gimmicks Danica into the Chase.  -2016 Storylines - LASTSEASON - After three Sprint Cup championships and two dirt track races he’d rather forget, Tony Stewart is hanging it up after 2016 - so he can run more dirt races. Unfortunately, this last ride will be delayed, as Stewart was injured in February while ATVing in the sand dunes with Jeff Gordon, sort of like Napoleon Dynamite's grandma. He's expected to return in May, with a replacement driver TBA (though it won't be Mark Martin, Jeff Burton, or probably Jeff Gordon). Smoke will be replaced in 2017 by Clint Bowyer, who this year replaces Justin Allgaier in a one-off season for HScott Motorsports. - DODGE CHARTERS - The Race Team Alliance locked in 36 Charter (Franchise) entries among its members while reducing the fields to 40, leaving just 4 spots instead of 7 for the plebs to fight over. The agreement seeks to stagnate the series roster for the next five years to coincide with NASCAR’s five-year agreement with current tracks on the schedule. Furniture Row Racing was the last holdout, but is now a Charter RTA member and is planning both a switch to Toyota and an expansion to two cars in 2016, with the second in a limited effort likely with Erik Jones. - SHAVE AN INCH OFF YA - While insisting the racing has never been better, NASCAR experimented with two different aero packages last summer - a low downforce setup at Kentucky and Darlington and a high drag package at Indianapolis and Michigan. The latter failed miserably while the first wasn’t bad, and this time NASCAR decided to go with what worked best. Look for Ford - especially Penske - to get an edge on the new package. Likely in response to the aero change, Ford redesigned the nose of the 2016 Fusion so that it resembles the 1998 Taurus. - OOH, THE CHASE - Last year, Chase Elliott wrecked in his Cup debut at Martinsville, Ryan Blaney blew an engine in nearly all his starts with the Wood Brothers, Brian Scott continued to hit everything but the pace car, and Jeffrey Earnhardt finished laps down a few times for Go Green Racing. This year, all four will contend for what the media insists is still “the strongest rookie class EVAR.” The group is notable for a number of reasons: Chase will become the first driver to race the #24 in Cup since Butch Gilliland at Phoenix in November 1992, Blaney will usher in the Wood Brothers’ first full-time season since 2007, Scott brings the #44 back to RPM for the first time since 2009, and Earnhardt brings in part-time sponsorship from Can-Am for the underfunded #32. The potential dark horse of the group is its fifth member - defending XFINITY Series champ Chris Buescher, who had a quietly consistent series of start for Front Row Motorsports. This year, Buescher takes the helm of FRM’s flagship #34.  The NASCAR Xfinity Series is NASCAR’s spiritual equivalent of AAA baseball or the American Hockey League (AHL). I say “spiritual” because you don’t see A-Rod or Alex Ovechkin in the lower leagues, yet Kyle Busch/Logano/Keselowski often win most of the races. Xfinity is an unusual place where a series regular can have a really solid season in spite of dealing with these Cup drivers, and still get fired (see Regan Smith, 2015). Buschwacker- Sprint Cup drivers who cherry pick wins from lower series regulars (a mix of up-and-comers and drivers who have washed out of Cup but carve a niche for themselves here). It’s always been an issue but, since 2004, it’s run rampant. NASCAR seems very hesitant to curb it because Kyle supposedly sells tickets or some bullshit. Only 8 races were won by “regulars” last season (some by a driver who had to share a car with Cup guys), more than usual- there were years in the late 2000s where three races were won by full-timers. NASCAR, predictably, did nothing about this this year except ban Cup drivers from NXS and Truck finales (whoopee...), and so I, CBJ, will continue to track who the best regular each race is through #NXSBestInClass; nobody probably cares, but I’m doing it anyway. #NXSBestInClass (actual finish): -Daytona- Elliott Sadler (4th) -Atlanta- Erik Jones (3rd) -Las Vegas- Daniel Suarez (2nd) -Phoenix- Erik Jones (2, 2nd) -California- In case you missed it in the graphic above, NASCAR will now have a Chase system in this and the soon-to-be-described Truck Series because everyone likes the Chase so well! NXS will feature 12 drivers (Trucks 8), eliminated over three rounds in multiples of four (Trucks, multiples of 2) until we get to the final four. NASCAR has decided that drivers who qualified for the Chase for the Sprint Cup will not be eligible for the season-ending race at Homestead. Not the entire season, because eradicating the drivers who win most of the races in a “winning means everything” system would have made too much sense, but the last race only. I am very, very much not a fan of this development; your mileage may vary. Another new wrinkle for Xfinity this year involves four Dash 4 Cash races. D4C itself has been around a few years and is like the old No Bull 5 seen in Sprint Cup, only the driver just has to be the best of the eligible drivers to win $100,000, not win the race, a fitting format because lol a regular wins an NXS race. Two Dash 4 Cash wins will be counted as the equivalent of one race win for Chase eligibility, because lol a regular wins an NXS race. The twist comes in the form of heat races, which will determine the starting lineup for each of the main events. The heat race concept is fun, but NASCAR can’t go without loving SOMETHING up- according to PRN’s Jim Noble, backup cars or engine changes are not allowed once the heat race starts. In other words, wreck in the heat or have a problem and you’re out of the main, points-paying event. This may cause drivers to be overly conservative in the heats, thus neutering them. The Summer/Fall Richmond, Bristol, Dover, and Indianapolis races will be the four D4C events.  If you’re looking for a lower NASCAR series to watch, this is it. Unlike NXS, which generally isn’t great, the Camping World Truck Series still provides entertaining racing, and is the only series to make cookie cutter tracks fun. Pickup Trucks! Plus, we have our very own real life goon who posts in this thread that runs in the series! You can buy his t-shirts, hats, diecasts, and other merchandise at (This Space Intentionally Left Blank)! NASCAR apparently thought this series could use an injection of Fun. So, they’ve done that by instituting this dumb poo poo!  That’s right, friends! NASCAR, long accused of and long denying throwing questionable cautions because of debris has not only indirectly admitted as much, but is now going to have regularly scheduled cautions to bunch up the field (except at Eldora)! At least they’re being honest.  ARCA Racing Series Presented by Menards The ARCA Racing Series is a stock car series which is essentially the fourth rung on the NASCAR hierarchy. It's not a NASCAR series, but Bill France had a hand in its formation. ARCA stands for Automobile Racing Club of America and, as you might expect in club racing, there are some good drivers and some who might be best served making a career in iRacing. It’s also the only stock car series to not have a contrived, horseshit form of a championship system, so good on them. ARCA is also known as LOL ARCA. http://www.arcaracing.com Lower/International Series NASCAR K&N East, West, Whelen Modifieds, Weekly Series (  ), Whelen Euro (   .  ,  ,  ) NASCAR Pinty's Series ( ), and NASCAR Mexico ( ) (despite sounding like sarcasm, the last three are real series), check out http://hometracks.nascar.com/.Modifieds are fun and you should watch them. More on that in the NBC section to come.  NASCAR.com- http://www.nascar.com Jayski- http://www.jayski.com NASCAR Fan Council: A real place where you can do surveys to complain to Race Day Chats are at #nascar on Synirc: http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/#nascar@irc.synirc.net The SAS Wiki has returned! Goon-written articles for educational purposes: http://sportsargumentwiki.com/index...Category:NASCAR Goon-Provided Advice for Attending Races is hurr: http://sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Goon%27s_Guide_To_Attending_Auto_Races Legend tells us Rolling Start is the SASCAR podcast, and word is CBJ, kidcoelacanth, Peanut President, and Cubey host it, with special goon guest appearances. You’re probably still waiting on that post-2015 Speedweeks recap (oops), but word is another podcast is coming, so get caught up: http://tindeck.com/users/kidcoelacanth (older) http://tindeck.com/users/pnutprez(newer) Come watch old racin’ with goons on our CyTube channel. Post in this thread if you want to watch something and others may show up: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...40&pagenumber=1 NASCAR Bingo, under new management! Next race, Daytona (Get new link if EB makes new thread) Fantasy NASCAR- http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto/group/3147 (Group 3147, PW derrike) Keith Kunz's Periscope, for all your Tony Stewart-related firework war needs- https://www.periscope.tv/KeithKunz/ CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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 NASCAR on TV  IT'S BACK Y'ALL What is it, you ask?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB1V28iPCxY THE OLD NASCAR on FOX THEME MUSIC.  Sprint Cup: Booth- Mike Joy, Jeff Gordon, Darrell Waltrip Rules and Technical Analyst- Larry McReynolds Pits- Jamie Little, Chris Neville, Matt Yocum, Vince Welch Hollywood Hotel- Chris Myers, Michael Waltrip (except the Daytona 500 and Talladega) Jeff Gordon, retired from driving, joins the FOX booth, for the first time in 15 seasons breaking up the Joy/McReynolds/Waltrip trio. Displaced is Larry Mac, who will have a fourth analyst role with FOX, sliding into Andy Petree's cubicle of solitude. Xfinity Series: Booth- Adam Alexander, Michael Waltrip, Clint Bowyer/Dale Earnhardt, Jr./Carl Edwards/Denny Hamlin/Kevin Harvick/Brad Keselowski/Joey Logano/Danica Patrick (rotating, most events)/Larry McReynolds (Iowa) Pits- Vince Welch, Jamie Little, Chris Neville, Hermie Sadler, Matt Yocum (rotating) Hollywood Hotel- Danielle Trotta, Larry McReynolds, Kenny Wallace FOX continues its Buschwacker Aversion Program by having five Sprint Cup drivers rotate as guest analysts for NXS races. Dale Jr was rumored to be a part of this, but instead, Carl Edwards replaces Jeff Gordon, with the other Trucks (Steve Byrnes Appreciation Station): Booth- Vince Welch, Phil Parsons, Michael Waltrip/Todd Bodine Pits- Hermie Sadler, Kaitlyn Vincie, Matt Yocum Vince Welch is the new voice of the Truck Series, announced late last season. ARCA: Booth- Adam Alexander/Ray Dunlap, Phil Parsons, Justin Allgaier OR Ray Dunlap, Jim Tretow Pits- Ray Dunlap/Matt Yocum, Jim Tretow OR Matt Yocum, Heather DeBeaux  K&N East/West: Booth- Rick Allen/Dave Burns, Jeff Burton, Steve Letarte OR Ralph Sheheen, Frank Stoddard, Parker Kligerman Pits- Derek Pernesiglio (East), Heather DeBeaux (West) Whelen Modifieds: Booth- Ralph Sheheen, Ray Evernham Pits- Derek Pernesiglio NBC’s NASCAR package only covers Cup and NXS in the second half of the year, but includes full season tape-delayed K&N and Modified races, aired on NBCSN usually the Thursday after they ran. Check them out! Check listings.  ARCA: Booth- Ray Dunlap, Jim Tretow Pits- Charlie Krall Everybody's favorite stock car series, LOL ARCA, aired live three times on CBS Sports Network in 2015, and has shifted to the American Sports Network this year with an expanded schedule. Don't get it? Yeah, me either; it's one of those over-the-air HD channels you get either with an antenna or through your cable provider. Good news is you can stream the ARCA races on this network online! They apparently showed Nashville and the first Salem race, but Toledo was first race I saw any promotion for. They'll also show Madison, Winchester, Berlin, the Illinois and DuQuoin State Fairgrounds events, and the Fall Salem race. http://www.americansportsnet.com/ NASCAR on Radio- Barney Hall Appreciation Station  The Motor Racing Network (MRN) is the ISC-owned NASCAR radio network. They cover: a) Sprint Cup and Xfinity races on ISC tracks and independent, non-ISC or SMI tracks b) The Sprint All-Star Race at Charlotte (in spite of it being SMI property). c) All Truck races regardless of venue. They also have NASCAR Live, a weekly call-in show hosted by Eli Gold, and several online-only radio shows covering NASCAR, sports cars, WoO, and drag racing. Search here for the affiliate nearest you: http://www.mrn.com  Performance Racing Network (PRN) is Speedway Motorsports Inc's radio network covering Sprint Cup and Xfinity races on SMI tracks (Atlanta, Bristol, Charlotte, Kentucky, Las Vegas, New Hampshire, Sonoma, Texas). PRN has a couple weekly, syndicated radio shows for your listening pleasure. Info: http://www.goprn.com  There's a third, oft-forgotten radio partner in NASCAR, The Indianapolis Motor Speedway Radio Network. As you might expect, they cover Brickyard 400 weekend only. IMS broadcasts seem to be done in partnership with PRN, often featuring a mix of IMS and PRN on-air talent.  Pay for radio from space robits? SiriusXM Channel 90 is for you! SiriusXM NASCAR Radio has all races live, including an on-car display lap counter and Top 5 running order (and selected driver audio feeds on bonus channels), along with a slate of daily programming, which is as follows: 7AM-11AM- The Morning Drive (Mike Bagley, Pete Pistone). Never heard it. 11AM-3PM- Tradin' Paint (Jim Noble, Danny "Chocolate" Myers). PRN's Jim Noble is excellent and sometimes dares to argue some things in NASCAR aren't great. Fortunately, Chocolate Myers is there to keep Noble and the listeners in check. This is a good show, with Noble being a straight-shooter and much less patronizing to callers than: 3PM-7PM- SiriusXM Speedway (Dave Moody). Hear MRN's Dave Moody tell listeners how awesome things are in NASCAR these days! Disagree? You're probably an idiot. (Moody does deal with a massive number of morons on this show, to be fair, but Moody toes the company line hard.) 7PM-10PM (Mon-Tues)- Late Shift (Brad Gillie, Kenny Wallace). This show's usually pretty good but I didn't hear it often. 7PM-10PM (Wed-Fri)- Dialed In With Claire B. Lang. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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I should've ended the last thread with "Turn Out The Lights, The Party's Over" instead. DAMNIT. If you missed it, here's Fantasy. Thank Kidc: http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto/group/3147 Group 3147 PW: derrike Current Teams- Busch Crewman Support Group (Kidc), Vehicular ManSauter (Muddy Burphy), Powered by Dewshine (EB), Cope with it (Harveygod), Doomsday Caution Clock (me), Rob Moroso & The Nightsweats (Boomer) CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Jan 29, 2016 |
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Nuh-uh, NASCAR. You can't start the Charter system this season. I have already posted the season-opening OP
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In-race reporter Jeff Gordon.
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Clint Bowyer will be "loaned" to SHR, Allgaier will get his HScott ride back in the interim, Alex Bowman will get extra seat time in the 7 because Junyer feels bad for him, and Regan Smith will still be stuck at TBR. That's not how it's going to happen at all, but that's how I could see it going down.
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Hey SRA, why 21? Jayski's team chart says nobody's using 23 in NXS this year. I am a big dork who is genuinely curious about car numbering in NASCAR.
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ellspurs posted:Wasn't SRA already using 21 in Trucks? If so, I'd say it was to be consistent with that. They used 21 in his first limited schedule in Trucks before changing to 23. 21 was then used for Joey Coulter's full-time ride, and will be for Johnny Sauter this year. VikingSkull posted:I drew a 23 on a napkin a few years ago, gonaa cross it out, put a 21 on it and wave that Is it a blank napkin? Use the other side for 21 and you'll have it for two different series. 
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Mikey to BK Racing for the 500, #83 with Maxwell House sponsorship.
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Mark Martin and Jeff Burton have both said no to driving the 14, and Jeff Gordon told FOX Sports he would have subbed for Tony Stewart in the 500 if asked if he weren't committed to the telecast. Apparently, Gordon was the one who invited Stewart to the dunes. e- Link: https://t.co/x5TBs9jooG CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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If I'm Tony or someone high up at SHR, I ask Jeff or FOX how much money it's going to take to put him in the 14. We know that car has grossly underperformed in the last few seasons and it's felt like it's been a combination of driver and aero package, but who better to give you an outside opinion for a couple races? It doesn't hurt that they come from the same background. Talk him into it, get him to 800 consecutive starts, and use him as the world's greatest R&D driver. Maybe this can be Brian's Richard Petty/Curb moment (even though those were different circumstances, you know he'd like the attention it would bring).
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You're not kidding. List of possible drivers, assuming they have to have ties to Chevy for whatever reason: Cup Free Agents- None/Jeff Gordon (theoretically) NXS- Elliott Sadler, Justin Allgaier, Ty Dillon, Alex Bowman, Brandon Jones, Brennan Poole Trucks- Johnny Sauter, Cole Custer, JWT, John Hunter Nemechek, SRA, Grant Enfinger
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BMB5150 posted:I wouldn't be too shocked if Gordon came in to do martinsville or anything but a plate race. This is possible now if they don't just name one driver, because it's The Kyle Busch Experience for Smoke: quote:In fact, sources say Stewart was on his feet and walking by Friday. Sources close to the situation say that on the advice of his doctors, Stewart and his team have set a tentative return date of May 21, the day of the 2016 NASCAR Sprint All-Star Race at Charlotte Motor Speedway. http://motorsports-soapbox.blogspot.com/2016/02/sources-stewart-walking-eyeing-late-may.html
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Reminder- if you're interested in Fantasy NASCAR, go here http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto/group/3147 and/or go to Yahoo Fantasy Racing, group 3147, PW derrike. The group can hold 50 and we're at 23 right now, so lots of space left. That said, I may put up a thread in Armchair Quarterback in a couple days offering it to anybody else who might be game given the Shootout and 500 qualifying are next week. I'm not expecting many takers from there, but I'll give priority to SASCAR goons to get in before I do that.
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BK Racing will field a fourth car with Robert Richardson, Jr. He'll join David Ragan (23), Mikey (83), and Matt DiBenidetto (93).Boomer The Cannon posted:SASCAR fantasy charter system killed this league, too. Well, that'll confirm the Charter. And probably no new teams for a while. e- The PuppyMonkeyBaby stunned me and prevented me from finishing the edit of this post. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Feb 8, 2016 |
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LASTCAR posted:This field cutting is such crap. Charter stipulations aside, there's no reason for it. Maybe several years ago when start and park was rampant, but not today when you actually have more than 43 full-time teams trying to make it work every race. Some of them aren't very competitive, but I remember when Furniture Row was a back marker with a hideous paint scheme. Now look at them. E- 5 years ago was 2011. Holy crap.
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Feb 8, 2016 06:43
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kidcoelacanth posted:I seem to remember only 43 cars attempting to qualify at the majority of races last year. I count 4. In order: 50, 47, 48, 45, 46, 46, 46, 45, 45, 45, 44, 48, 45, 43 (Pocono), 44, 44, 45, 46, 44, 46, 43 (apparently nobody likes the triangle, because Pocono again), 44, 44, 46, 46, 45, 46, 44, 44, 45, 44, 45, 43 (Fall Martinsville), 45, 43 (Fall Phoenix), 45. (e- Average: 44.7 -> 45) Most of those DNQs were some combination of John Edward Burton Burton/30/62 (and 33, 39, 40 early in the year), but the 95 and 32 DNQed a couple times, the 46 at least once, and the 21 missed a handful of races because of qualifying being washed out. A couple of those include withdrawls for teams which might've otherwise been in the field, such as when Team XXXTreme had their car stolen. e- This count would be down by a couple this year, with MWR's two cars gone, some little teams merging, but the 21 back full-time. Also worth remembering is there were a couple good cars (19, 21, and 41, I think) who would be among the go or go home cars because they don't have a Charter as of right now. e2- Apparently there were 43 teams which attempted all 36 races, according to the first ESPN story about the Charter. Some of the others from last year would've included the 25, 21, and a couple of the teams which never really got going. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Feb 8, 2016 |
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Feb 8, 2016 16:18
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https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/696717917262581760 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SoU4qzZlcw
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Feb 8, 2016 17:04
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e- Something more fun, especially for Gordon fans and resident NASCAR scheme designer Kidc, Sam Bass has unveiled several Jeff Gordon rejected concept paint schemes, some of which were intended for 2009: http://autoweek.com/article/nascar/nascar-artist-sam-bass-proud-be-jeff-gordons-rainbow-maker Start at image 45 in the slideshow. Cygni posted:lol yup, NASCAR is cutting the cup field down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_L2dPSFvbk&t=11s CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Feb 8, 2016 |
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Feb 8, 2016 18:23
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kidcoelacanth posted:The cup field has three less backmarkers, guess American racing is basically doomed lovely upstart backmarker teams, even with a few years to build and develop, never end up making anything of themselves.    Let's create a huge barrier to entry to the existing schlubs and anybody else that comes around so they aren't as much a problem. We don't need any more Richard Childress or Rick Hendrick wannabes someday. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Feb 8, 2016 |
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Feb 8, 2016 22:01
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kidcoelacanth posted:Ah yes, Stewart-Haas, ever the plucky underdog SHR, no. Haas pre-2009 when it was the 66 and 70? Yeah. Without a little outside investment, does that team still even exist?
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Feb 8, 2016 22:06
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Word is, to the surprise of no one, that JGR and SHR will be purchasing the MWR charters for the 19 and 41.LASTCAR posted:Precisely. It all rotates around to NASCAR's typical "They did something, but it wasn't enough to do just that so then they did something else just because". If they keep the field at 43, it's the Top 35 Rule with profit-sharing. Instead, starve out the independents. What happens when they get below 40 cars showing up each week (probably nothing) is what's interesting. daslog posted:I'm thinking they just sell their Taxicab Medallions to someone else who wants to race. NASCAR 2016 (Summer): Taxicab Medallions.
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Feb 8, 2016 23:48
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Reducing fields to 40 would've made sense in 2009 or 2010 when you could say "You know what? We're going to take some money from S&Pers.". They had the perfect reason then. Today, it feels like "Aw, CRAP, knew there was something we were going to do and forgot!" with a tinge of FYGM from the RTA. It's like the Top 35 Rule being kept in place in 2007 and 2008 when virtually every car had major sponsorship and you had Valvoline, CAT, Red Bull, and State Water Heaters routinely missing races because NASCAR was too stupid/arrogant/complacent to do anything with it. quote:This was a bad wreck but I'm glad about is The GREAT imtimatador Dale Earnhardt..... Need to offer some spelling lessons in that Facebook group, Viking.
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Feb 9, 2016 02:57
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I'll say this. The Charter system does have a good side, in smaller teams getting a bigger piece of the pie. But that's it. NASCAR will be modifying the point system in response to smaller fields. Also, it sounds like NASCAR may have qualifying on Sunday mornings if it's rained out previous days to try and avoid unnecessary DNQs. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Feb 9, 2016 |
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Feb 9, 2016 20:21
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fuseshock posted:Thats funny how Rob Kauffman can create this bullshit system and generate millions in income by selling his former MWR charters. Quite literally money out of nothing. As shady as poo poo as it seems, Jim Noble suggested he might have lost more than he gains out of this from his investment in MWR.
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Feb 10, 2016 03:12
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Bobby Labonte will run the 18 in the NXS race at Daytona, which is pretty cool. The Wood Brothers seem publicly disappointed about not getting a Charter, but took the high road: https://twitter.com/woodbrothers21/status/697449277535166464 ...while here's what Mike Hillman said (I haven't heard it because the internet where I am sucks right now): https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmnasc..._medium=twitter
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Feb 10, 2016 20:12
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Three sources have this man replacing Smoke for the 500: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If0-l0gZiHc
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Feb 11, 2016 00:20
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Peanut President posted:He's not very happy. He was really optimistic about his team's future with Cassill, had sponsors, was running better. Now team has "no value". Guy asks him if a team can make it without a charter and he said no. I finally heard it. The team had value until the Charter became official. He's got equipment he could sell for money, but thinks that itself is pointless because they're shortening the fields.
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Feb 11, 2016 03:49
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" kind of thing it was more "I've wasted my time and money".
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Feb 12, 2016 00:11
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Yeah, I glanced over it when I posted it originally (waiting for an event to start) and had a vague understanding, but it's not a bad idea as long as they don't screw it up in the process.maffew buildings posted:So if I understand this right, which I might not, the teams with charters get a spot guaranteed each race, eliminating any DNQ problems for them and freezing out any smaller teams that might put together a great machine and qualify since there's only four spots a race for them? Yes. Charter cars are locked into races for the next five years as long as they meet "competition standards", while smaller teams, referred to as Open teams, have to compete against each other for the last few spots and are also ineligible for the sharing of the NASCAR pot Charter teams are eligible for. For more perspective, listen to the Mike Hillman interview posted above.
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Feb 12, 2016 03:51
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maffew buildings posted:What's the NASCAR pot that open teams can't share in, is that like the prize money above and beyond the race purse? A bigger share of the money brought in as part of the TV package, among others. The previous distribution was based upon finishing position, but I believe it's now equal among Charter members. That seems to be the only benefit for smaller Charter teams.
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Feb 12, 2016 17:27
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https://twitter.com/nateryan/status/698187157039673344 Also: quote:WWE Superstar and actor John Cena will serve as the Honorary Pace Car Driver for the 58th annual DAYTONA 500 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series race. Cena will pace the 40-car field to the green flag in a Toyota Camry. Cena, a 15-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion, has been at the forefront of WWE's programming for more than a decade... 
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Feb 12, 2016 18:34
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If they change the name, how will we make jokes about The Association? "National Association of..." In other news- https://twitter.com/jim_utter/status/698211288141471744 e- Jenna Fryer says it's over the Charter details. Expecting some beautifully word-crafted statement next week about "Based upon the merits of their team and the contribution to the sport's long and proud history, NASCAR is proud to award the Wood Brothers a Charter." e2- Dave Moody is reporting Charter teams will receive larger payouts than Open teams for the same finishing positions. NASCARTEL, indeed. I haven't even been trying to dump on NASCAR in the last week. Most of the Tweets I see from media people are doing it themselves. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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Feb 12, 2016 19:27
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In spite of the bullshit, THERE ARE RACECARS ON TRACK ON FS1 I'm gonna hang out in #nascar for this session.
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Feb 12, 2016 23:01
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Daytona 500 entry list: One-offs (car and/or driver): -26 Robert Richardson, Jr. -30 TBA (e-32 Bobby Labonte) -35 David Gilliland -59 Michael McDowell -83 Michael Waltrip -93 Matt DiBenedetto -95 Ty Dillon kidcoelacanth posted:ugh who is this washed-up stuttering guy in the booth Pfft, where have you been the last 15 years? CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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Feb 12, 2016 23:32
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Wait, there's only one attempt at a GWC if they get past the overtime line and the next flag ends it? What the poo poo?
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Feb 13, 2016 00:53
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They did the same thing with the 1979 500 last year and it was really well done. It even had retro commercials.
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Feb 13, 2016 02:40
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On FOX's scoring bug, "24 C. Elliott". The tinge of depression I expected all last season just hit me.  Also, here's something interesting: https://twitter.com/MattWeaverSBN/status/698536528277065728 https://twitter.com/MattWeaverSBN/status/698538434147831808 https://twitter.com/MattWeaverSBN/status/698538826046840832 https://twitter.com/MattWeaverSBN/status/698541573206835201 https://twitter.com/MattWeaverSBN/status/698541988724023296
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Feb 13, 2016 17:31
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Overtime starts if there's a restart with two laps to go inside the scheduled distance. In other words, a race could be in "overtime" and end under caution without ever going to overtime. E- DW has made some surprisingly coherent points today, pointing out the change in how drivers hold the steering wheel may be influenced by driving street cars with airbags and also pointing out the 40 car probably should have gotten a Charter based on the number of races they've run in the last three seasons. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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ARRRRRRRRCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SASCAR IRC is here: https://client00.chat.mibbit.com/#nascar@irc.synirc.net ayn rand hand job posted:i liked last year when they had to throw a caution because they dropped the green flag on the racetrack Yep. The clownshoes come in many sizes.
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