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philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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Looking to take my business on the road in a 6000lb fifth wheel.

Is there a standard or recommended truck for this sort of thing for around 5K-10K? (Truck alone.)

Plan on traveling across the US for 1-2 years max. I plan on posting up in one city then disconnecting to get supplies and sell my product at markets within a 4 hour radius of the base camp.

Currently I'm looking at a 95 Ford Diesel Powerstroke 7.3 with 150k miles for about 6K. Am I'm on the right track?

Should I consider gas instead? I'm planning this in advanced so everything is still in the early stages. I'm all ears for advice and suggestions.

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philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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dreesemonkey posted:

I come with nothing but anecdotal knowledge.

Anecdote #1: The 7.3 is supposed to be a great engine, the last before things turned to poo poo for a while with Ford's diesels.
Anecdate #2: Diesels are much more expensive to repair. That's about the extent of my diesel knowledge.

If you're considering gas, a Chevy 2500HD with the 6.0 might be a good choice, extremely durable engine. As I've heard here on AI it's a "million mile motor in a 250,000 mile body".

Thanks bud.

Can anyone else expand on just how much more it is the fix diesels? This would be a concern for us on the road. Is it like twice as much?

I see a few decent 2500HDs in my area. At what point does diesel become more economical than gas? We will only be tripping for 1-2 years with a possible 15K miles on the rig. I had some plans to go bio diesel as well, so thats a plus.

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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dreesemonkey posted:

There was a guy with a thread on here when he owned/ran a mechanics shop. A lot of people chimed in with how hard it is to find a good diesel mechanic and how expensive they are. Twice the cost (labor, parts) is probably about right.

If you're only doing 15k miles I think and argument could be made that there are a lot more potential "super expensive repairs" that could happen on a diesel than a gas truck, but again it's just guessing. If you were getting one to drive 150k and assuming the diesel and gas were both mechanically good, you may want the extra torque and durability of a good diesel, but you can probably get a good, cheap 15k miles out of a decent shape 6.0 chevy.

There is a guy on youtube who buys junkyard 200k+ mile chevy 6.0 V8s and puts a huge turbo on them and beats the poo poo out of them at ~600hp. They're a pretty incredible engine.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking now. My trip is relatively short compared to full timers and people who haul work gear 24/7. I could always upgrade along the way if things are going exceedingly well. We'd probably opt for a larger camper than the 20 foot we plan on using if we decide to go longer anyways.

I wish it was easier for find these 2500s in manual

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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slidebite posted:

I am a big Duramax fan but as mentioned they command a good premium and IIRC the early/mid 00s commonly suffered injector issues which is an expensive repair if not already done.

I think the gas 6.0 Chev/GM is a reasonable engine but fuel economy sucks. I'm not sure how much of a difference there would be in economy between it and the big 8.1, or even the Ford V10 for towing purposes. I know a guy with the Ford V10 and I am pretty sure he said it didn't matter whether he was towing his RV or not, he always got around the same fuel economy.
e: Might have a tough time getting the big engines in a good truck for $5K. Sorry, forgot about budget.

10K max. I may trade my current 2007 Mustang for one. Haven't decided. It's in great shape with low miles,. so it would be nice to come home to afterwards.

Back when I was considering diesel, this was high on my list http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5401493273.html

My biggest concern with diesel is having to get pricey repairs on the road, which looks like a real possibility with anything in my range. Then again, we plan on making money on this trip and keeping a low overhead. I'll have to talk to my tax guy, but gas and repairs will pretty much be a business expense.

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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FatCow posted:

If you're willing to take a trip look at Dallas Craigslist. I almost flew down there and drove back when I bought my F250. Trucks are stupid cheap there.

My grandma actually lives somewhere in Texas and has been wanting me to come stay for a week or two.

This is definitely something for me to think about.

I bet campers can be had cheap there as well.

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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slidebite posted:

Vans are notoriously awkward to hook up to a fifth wheel hitch.

Totally would if it was just me, and I had a base camp I was living at. But its me and my girlfriend, and we need to live and work out of unit for about a year.


Everybody is talking about these chevys, but how about a Ford F250 or 350 Super Duty? I know nothing about them, but I seen tons of them on the road. Would something like that be comparable to the 2500HD, or is the Chevy inherently better for these things?

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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angryrobots posted:

"It's been bulletproofed, I swear!"

Also, the suggestion to look at the Dallas Craigslist, has me trying to figure out the logistics of flying there and driving this back.

Whoa, that is nice.

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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angryrobots posted:

I've got too much going on, if you're interested go for it.

Hell if it's still around fo

angryrobots posted:

I've got too much going on, if you're interested go for it.

Out of my budget and too soon for us to move in anything. Just wanted to do some early research so I could say least know what I'm looking for.

I have a 2007 Ford mustang with 73K miles on it that I'm looking to trade or sell towards the truck.

Seeing it I get any good local offers.

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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Got an offer for an 03 Dodge 2500 Cummins 5.9 24v with about 160k miles

http://m.cumminshub.com/24v.html

Body looks clean. Looks like a family truck, no heavy work.

I just don't know Jack poo poo about the year, model, and engine.

But I'd get this as a trade which allows me a little extra wiggle room on money for repairs/setup.

E: The guy drives the truck an hour a day to work and is tired of hearing the diesel. The thing looks pretty clean.

I'd love some advice on the model

philkop fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Feb 4, 2016

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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sharkytm posted:

'03 was the first year of the CR injection system. The CP3 fuel pumps can be bitchy, but they're better than the new ones. It's minimally emissions-dickered, so they normally command a premium. I'd go see how it starts in the cold, and get a compression test done. If it's the automatic, check to see if it's been maintained. The 47RE autobox was barely adequate behind the Cummins, and they like to blow up around 150K, even without abuse. You might just budget a new tranny right off the bat if you need it to be reliable towing a heavy load cross-country.

It's possible that you've got the upgraded 48RE, check the VIN number. If the 8th digit of the VIN is a "6", it's got the 47RE. IIRC, the '03s came with the 48RE pump regardless of the transmission. I'd consider a larger transmission cooler and a good temp gauge mandatory for what you are planning on doing, no matter the engine, but certainly with the 47/48RE Transmissions.

::edit:: I forgot to mention, but if the truck has been modded at ALL, expect to be replacing the tranny soon. Neither the 47 or 48 could handle much above stock levels of power, so any chip or tune would usually fry them in short order. If the trans has never been serviced (fluid changed, etc), then I'd expect to replace it soon as well.

It does have the 6 as the 8th!

Honestly. This seems like a younger guy who's parents bought him a truck. He goes to college near me.

I might have found my truck. Thanks for the advice.

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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Powershift posted:

When you're checking it out, you can cycle the key from off to on 3 times ending in the on position and get all the codes.

Like flashing codes? Is this some kind of engine check?

The truck already has a fifth wheel hitch and something called a cortex program.

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense actually. Apparently the previous owner installed the cortex to tow the fifth wheel.

I'm going to check it out but I'll do some more research. The thing is supposedly under a dealer warranty.

It also might be somewhat relevant to mention that I'm not paying for this particular truck, I'd be trading my 07 mustang with a very bad clutch for it. If I trade outright, I'd have a little more time and money to spend making this thing trip worthy if the engine is solid.

philkop fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Feb 4, 2016

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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sharkytm posted:

gently caress, if they'll do an even swap, that truck is probably worth 15K or more. A local guy just sold a 12v for $11K up here, with over 200K on it.

That's what I'm saying. I figured the young gun thing helps me there. A younger guy who doesn't want to do the work selling it, but wouldn't mind even trading at less than value for a Stang.

Wait, that doesn't sound like a good previous owner for my potential truck... You never know though.

philkop fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Feb 4, 2016

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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leica posted:

ask the owner how much ROLLING COAL he does, strike 4.

For real though, any easy test? Finger in the muffler?

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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sharkytm posted:

flip it and buy something better.

That's totally a viable worst case option.

Best case, there's not too much wrong with it.

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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sharkytm posted:

I'm just gonna leave that there... not commenting.

I mean, the soot might leave my finger black if they do that often. Lol

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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Terrible Robot posted:

If the "best case" for your new turbodiesel, chipped, 5th wheel pickup is "not too much wrong with it", that is not a best case.

I feel you. But I'm not buying anything. I'd be even trading a lesser vehicle with " not too much wrong with it."

But I guess best best case, the truck is pristine.

A friend of a friend works on diesel trucks. He's going to check it out for me for a few rounds of beers.

philkop fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Feb 4, 2016

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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literally a fish posted:

Any muffler that's been used on a car for any length of time is going to have soot buildup on the inside of the tip.

DON'T BUY THAT TRUCK UNLESS YOU BUDGET FOR AN ENTIRELY NEW OR AT LEAST REBUILT TRANSMISSION.

The way I see it, if I can get this as an even trade. I'm ok with putting 5K into the truck between now and when we set sail (september.)

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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So I questioned the guy about the VIN not pulling up as correct, and suddenly he's not into mustangs.

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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Sandbagger SA posted:

I've towed this camper quite a bit (the furthest trip being about 200 miles to an NEAI goonmeet).

It is only 13' but I can't imagine towing anything longer with a YJ.



I think OP would be hating life trying to live out of a 13' camper.

Yeah, I really wanted a Jeep to work, but I tossed that idea out early on after some research. Even the Unlimited's would have a tough time, which surprised me because I thought it was mostly a wheel base thing.

Your set up is sweet for a weekend down at the lake thing though.

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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angryrobots posted:

No one asked for this, and its not my thread...

I was really surprised there wasn't a truck megathread. Maybe this should be the start.

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philkop
Oct 19, 2008

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I've explored other options.

The current plan is to get a 14" box truck and convert it ourselves. I see alot of trucks in good condition in my area pretty cheap.

We didn't really like any of the campers we saw anyways, and since we'll be working out of this, it's better we make it to our specs.

In my state, you can get them registered as a regular heavy truck. I talked to some dmv people about registering it as an RV and its doable.

E: the majority of the trucks I'm looking at are Ford e350s or 7.3L Diesels

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