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Aug 15, 2001

mactheknife posted:

That last bit owns, I've always wanted sports games to allow cheating with the risk of consequences.
90s FIFA games had a button that was just "commit a godawful foul and get sent off if the referee sees it."

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Aug 15, 2001
I actually think the late Group B era, say '85 and '86, is nowhere near as enjoyable to watch as the Group 4 and early Group B days. The drivers simply looked scared and the cars couldn't be driven to anything like their potential.

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Aug 15, 2001

Alain Post posted:

I like Group A (the Lancia/Toyota period and the later mixed Group A/World Rally Car period) more than Group B. You could make a decent case for 1998-2001 being the peak of WRC.

Group A was really, really good up until they neutered the events and the mega-fraud Makinen rose to prominence. Every rally became the same after that: Colin McRae would scream off into a ten minute lead after four stages and then drive into a tree, Sainz would then valiantly maintain a lead even as he struggled with punctures right up until the inevitable point his car would break down, and eventually Makinen would finish the rally 2 seconds ahead of all the actually interesting drivers.

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Aug 15, 2001

Human Grand Prix posted:

I'm also under the impression that Mitsubishi spent a lot less than their competitors.
That could well be true. I know they were still using a Group A car for like five years after the WRC spec came in.

One of the other good things about Group A: crazy homologation specials.

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Aug 15, 2001

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

A four time WRC champion that is universally respected in a team with less budget and resources than anyone else is a mega-fraud, gotcha.

Well, he'd only be a small fraud if he hadn't won four titles, wouldn't he? Seriously though, it took an incredible amount of things going his way for that to happen: Toyota's ban, Colin McRae always crashing out from the lead at crucial moments, Carlos Sainz's constant unbelievable bad luck... what year was it Sainz's car literally died 200 meters from the end of the season?

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Aug 15, 2001

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

It doesn't deny that Makinen is in actual fact considered one the truly great rally drivers and on a level above McRae and Sainz - Is Loeb a fraud because he had completely inhuman luck and had cars that didnt break down alongside monster budgets? There truth is that what you call "luck" is in fact proper preparation and caring about details, two things Makinen was legendary about *especially* given the lovely budgets Mitsubitshi worked with - and still is today now he's about to bring Toyota into the WRC once again. Plus you know, it's kinda important to stay on the road if you want to win.

Calling Makinen a fraud is a truly dumb statement and shows a complete lack of rallying knowledge.

It was a simple, basic, old and extremely obvious joke, my dude. Jesus.

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