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Hey thread, so a couple of weeks ago, one of the various military support organizations showed the movie Everest here in Djibouti, and Chris Klinke and Tonya Riggs came to talk after the film as guest speakers afterwards. I actually got to spend a lot of time bullshitting about Everest and poo poo with both of them. It was actually pretty loving cool; I work in satellite communications and Chris was actually pretty curious about some of the things that I knew. Apparently, communications are terrible in mountains -- who knew?! He talked about how his ordeal with his satphone on K2 in 2008, and he was relieved to find out there were simple tools they can use/purchase to make communicating on the mountains a lot better. Tonya was very talkative and we enjoyed a long talk about parallels in soldiers who seek multiple deployments and mountain junkies. She was very down to earth when she got out of her "talking like a Toastmaster" voice. The most interesting point for me when talking to her was her genuine regret about seeing dead people on the mountain -- her expedition summited the same year David Sharp and a poo poo load of other climbers died on the NE side, and three Sherpas died in an avalanche on the Nepal side. She said that she tried not to think about it then, especially as her expedition when right by David Sharp's frozen popsicle-rear end, and that she felt regret about that aspect of that. She said when she turned around and started working down, knowing she was passing people who may have died that week, it was her primary motivation to keep going, but she doesn't like talking about that in the paid speeches she gives. I guess "I want to trudge on sheerly to not be a hike-sicle," doesn't sell well to middle managers. I felt like I learned a lot about their mental state, at least talking to them in person. They seemed to light up talking about climbing and the unparalleled solitude one experiences in remote locations, especially when one can see stars in broad daylight, and realize their walking above where planes fly. I didn't feel as callous as I do about some climbers, as both of them were genuinely in love with the challenge and the beauty of it; Tonya was part of a sophomoric, yet greater gesture, and she had turned down another climb when she realized all the money in the world wouldn't walk you up Annapurna; and in the case of Chris, was actually humble enough to turn away when the climb on K2 was too much, and attempted to organize some rescue when things went really bad. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Apr 13, 2016 |
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Outrail posted:First fatality will include an investment banker who thinks anything is possible with just your own pluck, determination and a four million dollar inheritance. Trump is doing a summit bid?
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Apr 26, 2016 15:38
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"i'd rather die livin on the edge instead of in my sleep" *dies in sleep*
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May 21, 2016 11:29
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Maluco Marinero posted:I love that a trekking company or two have wasted no time slinging mud at other operators, despite the fact that every single one of them will have carbon copy waivers, "all due care taken but no responsibility". It's really the scummiest thing, all jokes aside. Tact is not a value for these outfits, as "professional" as they are; they consistently will take .01 microseconds to slander another outfit that makes the exact same risk decisions simply because it wasn't them. It's like a car dealership showing up on the news at the scene of a wreck in order use the recent fatalities to highlight the importance of choosing a vehicle with improved safety measures, like Mercedes' (optional) collision avoidance system with auto-braking.
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May 23, 2016 08:46
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bradzilla posted:First person with lung cancer to summit Everest http://www.today.com/health/hope-kept-me-going-cancer-survivor-one-lung-climbs-world-t73781
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May 26, 2016 10:37
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http://www.atlasandboots.com/seven-second-summits/quote:To this date, only one man has climbed all of the mountains above: Austrian mountaineer Christian Stangl who incidentally has also climbed the seven third summits as well, meaning he has climbed the first, second and third highest mountain on every continent, known as the triple seven summits. Epic.
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Jun 4, 2016 05:38
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Time Cowboy posted:Truly a hill worth dying on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqpGiwNtMvY&t=64s
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Aug 12, 2016 11:07
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The Goatfather posted:It's not everest but... Google that loving mountain what the fuuuuck. Its insane looking.
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Sep 3, 2016 15:58
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elwood posted:"Climbing" Gokyo Ri Nothing makes me more in awe of the eight thousanders than realizing the unremarkable foothills in that area are taller than any mountain I have ever seen in the US or southern Afghanistan.
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Oct 30, 2016 09:36
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Did it smell bad?
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Nov 1, 2016 13:52
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Something's off...
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Nov 3, 2016 12:48
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Cojawfee posted:Based on that video he seems to realize he has his son and needs to stop doing so much stupid stuff. Seems like this Everest thing is something he feels like he really needs to do no matter what. After that he might be able to say he's done. Problem is, addicts are always gonna take that last hit before they quit.
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Nov 25, 2016 00:17
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DumbparameciuM posted:Annual Everest thread 2017: ALL GIFTS ARE ACCEPTED BY CHOMOLUNGMA
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Jan 24, 2017 03:37
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Newest thread got QCSd and then mods came and closed it. I want to talk about cool mountains, good climbers, human tragedy, and rich bucket listers dying.
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Feb 7, 2017 13:50
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My opinion of the death pool was it was only supposed to be for quality submissions like old Photoshop Friday threads.
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Feb 9, 2017 23:57
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Picnic Princess posted:There's a solo female climber stuck near the summit of Canada's tallest mountain due to earthquakes loosening a bunch of seracs and causing avalanches, making descent too dangerous. Sounds like she's ureally steck up there!
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May 3, 2017 19:13
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Good luck Polish Bros. Hoping for another suicidal success like the Polish line.
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May 10, 2017 03:21
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Cojawfee posted:If you're using ropes, couldn't you just set a rope and rappel down a ledge? Some of the faces in 8 thousanders are literally hundreds of meters high, so you'd need at least a few hundred meters of rope. Think about how much that weighs. There's a reason Porter's and Sherpas set ropes for weeks before the season really starts.
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May 14, 2017 19:20
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gohuskies posted:No, you just do multiple rappels from anchor point to anchor point. People do this all the time on multi-pitch routes - you set an anchor, rappel down to the next anchor point, build a new anchor there, pull down your rope, set up a new rappel, and so forth on down. It's a basic part of multi-pitch climbing, people rappel routes thousands of feet long with one (or more often two) 60-70 meter ropes all the time. Oh I thought dude meant just rappelling down in one go not what you're describing.
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May 14, 2017 20:11
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I truly want to see Nanga Parbat from the Faerie Meadows before I die.
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May 22, 2017 09:55
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Well, if the Taliban have their way those two events could coincide. I know :c
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May 22, 2017 18:32
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Doctor Malaver posted:That's a convenient religious doctrine. We'll lease our holy ground to the government and we'll suggest to people not to climb, despite that there's a chain specifically for that purpose. So we get the money AND we're clean before the god/s because hey we placed the sign not our fault if they climb, right? Maybe Australia has had even up to today, a complicated and unpleasant relationship with it's indigenous people. Or maybe the Aboriginal people believe that their doctrine doesn't necessarily mean others can't do what the please. But I suppose that's pretty convenient.
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May 26, 2017 11:18
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Paladine_PSoT posted:Bonus points if you freeze yourself grabbing your junk at China while doing the metal horns gesture, and figure out a way to anchor yourself there such that it's too much effort to remove you. EngineerJoe posted:China would blow you up if they couldn't move you if you did that. Eat a bag of FREE TIBET confetti
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Jun 4, 2017 03:34
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uXs posted:Saw 'Everest' was on Netflix and watched it. Pretty interesting movie. quote:update: 7 Summits Club told me that just said that for the press and didn’t cover Paljor’s body … “I think it’s not worth mentioning. Maybe they put a couple of stones. These words were more for the press to show it’s done more than one action. In reality they covered only one Marko.”
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Jun 7, 2017 00:12
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Mr. Despair posted:The adrenaline rush after nearly getting seriously hurt/killed is an amazing feeling, half this thread should get away from a computer long enough to experience it sometime. It's such a great rush that you kinda don't really care about that car that hit you! Until you get to work and throw up outside the door from the body wracking pain. Didn't even notice for half an hour.
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Jun 8, 2017 04:14
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Cojawfee posted:I would feel worse for his girlfriend's mom. "Oh, your daughter is dating a doctor? My daughter is dating a guy who climbs up rocks or something and lives in a van." He's had a National Geographic article about his brass balls, fitness, and dedication. I think he'd be well accepted in most polite company. Jesus Christ goons.
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Jun 8, 2017 04:27
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Cartoon posted:Is there a word yet for the intense but irrational desire to beat people to death with their selfie sticks? I'm pretty sure "paragliding over the 13th tallest mountain in the world, while simultaneously smashing previous paragliding attempts" is the most appropriate time to use a selfie stick.
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Jun 25, 2017 12:57
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Watched Meru last night packing up front vacation. Really interesting documentary of the members of the expression, a little light on climbing details. Wild setup for the main dudes family situation.
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Nov 20, 2017 07:43
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nsaP posted:Bill Burr is right (also an amateur helicopter pilot) Nothing makes me label someone more instantly than finding out if they agree with Bill butt. Bet you have strongly felt yet poorly formed opinions about movies and feminists.
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Jan 26, 2018 19:16
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barbecue at the folks posted:I don't understand why they talk in menacing tones about the "killer mountain" when the real story is in asking why these people, many with families to take care of, willingly throw their lives away in a frozen hell they actively climbed and suffered their way into. The mountain is not going to force it's way into your flat to freeze your foot off, that's someone else's fault entirely. I met some Everest people while deployed, ironically their reasons are similar to dudes that seek out deployments and poo poo. They typically have boring poo poo lives, and life "makes sense" in a high stress, socially isolated environments. Even myself, while on deployment, felt better than usual because I had my routine, and the sense of danger (not really that elevated compared to more dangerous jobs in the military, but higher than baseline) kept my focus on completing objectives and away from the banality of life back home. It's insidious because you're aware it's selfish but you rationalize away the underlying motivations and are enabled by the people around you who have the same problem.
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Feb 5, 2018 17:49
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Rondette posted:I wonder if that will make it easier then. Looking forward to the Everest hipsters who brag about climbing the step. 'Oh you climbed it post step. Ok. Let me tell you how much harder i had it' 💯 this is already happening with some climbers lamenting some of the mountains charm is gone. As charming as a traffic jam at 8800m altitude can be. I'll actually be more curious if climbing becomes less fatal.
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May 25, 2018 09:51
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PostNouveau posted:It's a good thing that rock fell off, right? That was the big bottleneck? Yes. Less time in the death zone is overall good, and that loving rock was one of the few true gently caress you obstacles, and it definitely wasn't reasonable to try and push several hundred climbers up and down it in a day. As there's not a 10m boulder to funnel single retards up at 8800m, I predict were going to have quite a few less "stuck in traffic midday on summit, died in the dark on descent". It is now the Hillary Stairs.
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May 26, 2018 19:21
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She climbed two other 8k mountains, I'm pretty sure she was legit.
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Jun 1, 2018 05:16
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People think I'm crazy for carrying a small pack with more water than I need, a few lighters, first aid kit, whistle, and a flashlight with fresh batteries on my day hikes. It's a little much, but that extra couple lbs naked me sure I can last through an unexpected night.
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Oct 1, 2018 03:09
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Yes I have one of those too but it keeps getting used in the garage
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Oct 1, 2018 06:07
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Leperflesh posted:Are people climbing/hiking despite clear and obvious warnings about avalanches ready to go off in the area, or is this one of those "if you hike anywhere here in winter there's always a .01% chance of an avalanche" and a few folks just get super unlucky? Global warming means this trend will only continue. I'm pretty sure spring is a pretty dangerous time to be around big glaciers too.
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Apr 25, 2019 08:39
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I don't mean to be crass or oversimplify a complex problem, but if they're trying to still have lots of climbing traffic, and still minimize the ecologically impact of climbers, could they not build a nearby "green" waste management facility? I would imagine if there's a sustainable way of handling all the poo poo and trash at base camp, it would benefit climbers and the government.
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May 4, 2019 21:20
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barbecue at the folks posted:Just limit the number of summit passes, put them on auction and let the Free Market™ take care of it. There are enough rich idiots to probably make what they get now and much more. The highest bidders get to sacrifice themselves to satiate the mountain's hunger, everybody wins. This honestly could be workable with a provision to maybe have previous high altitude ascents count as credits or something, so that well qualified mountaineers can be given access to perform their climbs and rich people subsidize the cost.
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May 24, 2019 23:39
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Leperflesh posted:Is there a reliable governing body that can certify that a given individual has made a summit attempt at a given peak, or that establishes what a well-qualified mountaineer is? It would have to operate in every country that a climber might climb a mountain in, of course. Honestly, Nepal and Pakistan could form a committee of experts solely on the subject of 8000ers and Himalayan climbing. Getting your permit is a matter of having records if your climbs maintained and somehow validated. The benefit is twofold: the climbers from that region get formalized recognition for their expertise and this would start the bare minimum process for maintaining records for the sport as a whole. I really don't mind when seasoned pros go for summits and spend half their year living in a mountain, and Everest is the tallest. Your plan is a drastic action, Everest will likely never go the way of Gangkhar Puensum.
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May 25, 2019 03:51
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Yeah there's nothing wrong with selling access to cultural wonders to rich people because it's your country's only source of revenue. Nope.
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May 26, 2019 06:36
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