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The Something Awful Forums > Archives > General Bullshit > Annual Everest Thread: Well they always told me getting high was dangerous.
 
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Munin
Nov 14, 2004

ZombieLenin posted:

But was that Austria-Hungarian territory prior to the First World War? Keep in mind Italy actually invaded Austria during the First World War. In fact, much of what is now the “Italian Alps” was actually Austria-Hungarian territory prior to the end of World War One.

Well, much of what is Northern Italy today was Austro-Hungarian territory. Italy, as a nation, only formed in the 1800s and the two major recurring themes was getting Austria out of "their" territory and the conflict for supremacy between the Kingdom of Piedmont-Sardinia and the Kingdom of Two Sicilies. You also had the entire business with the Papal States. The Kingdom of Venetia didn't get taken from Austria until 1871.

"Invaded" and "taken back" are slightly fraught concepts when the national identifies at play are still forming.

This particular peak was indeed part of the gains from WW1 though.

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Munin
Nov 14, 2004

ZombieLenin posted:

Of course they are, and call on notions of nationalism that do no longer operate in the same ways as nationalism does today.

My response was not, under any circumstances an attempt to explain the nuisance of the relationship between the nationalistic components present in the Habsburg Empire and Italian Irredentism. Instead it was to say precisely that the language of invader and invaded in this case is quite complicated; as a result of this, the original commentary about the Italians changing the signs fails in the face of that complexity.

yup, just wanted to expand on what you touched on.

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The Something Awful Forums > Archives > General Bullshit > Annual Everest Thread: Well they always told me getting high was dangerous.