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LungBrothers
Oct 5, 2015

by Shine

I hate yankees posted:

Plus, if you look, I think you'll see that a lot of his policies make sense and are not "far right". The meme of him deporting millions of people is dumb and if you unironically believe that, then you're dumb. There's a lot of "oh god fire fire" rhetoric about Trump that is just complete nonsense. To put things in perspective, that's no different than screaming that Bernard is a socialist who will nationalize everything and tax 90% of my income. That's just not true. In fact, I'd wager a lot of people who support Trump would end up supporting Bernard if Trump does not win the republican nomination.


The executive branch can pretty much call for a mass deportation for any reason unchecked duder, the Obama administration is doing it right now, it's just getting very little coverage.

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The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

LungBrothers posted:

The executive branch can pretty much call for a mass deportation for any reason unchecked duder, the Obama administration is doing it right now, it's just getting very little coverage.

I can give first hand experience of this.

My brother's polish friend got deported. I was going to ask how stupid he could be that he lived in the country for 20+ years and never got his citizenship, but then I remembered poland.


If you want to read a good trump interview read the Playboy interview he gave 25 years ago where he talks about his brother Fred Trump.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005

jBrereton posted:

Does it shock you when this is the guy's closest republican competitor?

[48MB gif]
are you some kind of idiot?
http://i.imgur.com/0u8lSMa.mp4

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot
Sanders: "This poo poo is broken but we can fix it together."

Trump: "This poo poo is broken and here's one of the scumbags that broke it and he wants to use his evil powers to help you now."

Clinton: "Stupidass financially comfortable middle class Democrats and fat, retarded midwest housewives believe absolutely everything that the TV tells them."

OP, your dad is pretty smart. Smarter than half the Democrats are.

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

LungBrothers posted:

The executive branch can pretty much call for a mass deportation for any reason unchecked duder, the Obama administration is doing it right now, it's just getting very little coverage.

also they can pay countries like Mexico to get medieval on those inconvenient south American kids that keep showing up on our border, and just tell the media not to report on it and they are like "OK!"

Mexico is building arm things to sweep people off the top of moving freight trains, lol

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot

I hate yankees posted:

Plus, if you look, I think you'll see that a lot of his policies make sense and are not "far right".

bro he wants to build a big wall across the border to solve immigration and wants to make a foreign country pay for it somehow (the way he'll do that he's been fairly silent about except for vague 'we'll strongarm 'em we import tons from them!' stuff). never even mind that a big wall won't really do poo poo and the maintenance of it and the labor required to man it will be in the hundreds of millions of dollars easy.

that does not. make. sense.

if trump wants to build a wall you must acquit

BigBoss
Jan 26, 2012

by Lowtax
- champion of universal healthcare

- in favor of higher taxes on ultra-rich

- pro-choice

- doesn't give a gently caress if you smoke weed or whatever gay drugs you crunch up and put in your eyeballs

- is not able to be purchased by special interests because he's already rich so gently caress it

- bangs hot sluts and dgaf

- is in WWE Hall of Fame

- Isn't scared of Putin like a little bitch



Every single one of these statements is true about Donald Trump and watching progressives wring their hands about what amounts to their fantasy candidate because he was mean to a group of people who have for centuries based their entire dumb rear end moon god cultural identity on violence and tribalism is hilarious.

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot

BigBoss posted:

- Isn't scared of Putin like a little bitch

my dog he's scared of a Fox News anchor lady


quote:

because he was mean to a group of people who have for centuries based their entire dumb rear end moon god cultural identity on violence and tribalism is hilarious.

right o you're just racist then haha. what about him blaming the nation's ills on said group of people and redirecting blame from oligarchs to browns? that's all good and chill that's just the way the game is played?

BigBoss
Jan 26, 2012

by Lowtax

FishionMailed posted:

my dog he's scared of a Fox News anchor lady

He's not scared of Megyn Kelly. He called her on her poo poo and refuses to fall for her dumbass tricks. Can you imagine if Sanders called her out like that? Lefties wouldn't need viagra for like a hundred years.

FishionMailed posted:



right o you're just racist then haha. what about him blaming the nation's ills on said group of people and redirecting blame from oligarchs to browns? that's all good and chill that's just the way the game is played?


"Well, you only got 99 out of 100. Ideological purity dictates you fail." - a thing the left believes while they sit around writing books about their white man's burden to protect the noble savage

BigBoss has issued a correction as of 18:15 on Feb 1, 2016

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot

BigBoss posted:

He's not scared of Megyn Kelly. He called her on her poo poo and refuses to fall for her dumbass tricks. Can you imagine if Sanders called her out like that? Lefties wouldn't need viagra for like a hundred years.

lmao dumbass tricks here having the meaning 'asked difficult questions during a presidential debate' and 'running the debate on too long compared to the Dems' (even tho there's like 10-12 GOP candidates and 3 Dem candidates)


BigBoss posted:

"Well, you only got 99 out of 100. Ideological purity dictates you fail." - a thing the left believes while they sit around writing books about their white man's burden to protect the noble savage

this is what TX textbooks have wrought

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Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

FishionMailed posted:

lmao dumbass tricks here having the meaning 'asked difficult questions during a presidential debate'

I don't know... did you see her ask him the questions last August? I think anyone claiming she didn't have it in for Trump and she wasn't motivated by anger is just being dishonest. Boycotting may have been dumb as he could have came and tried another approach to disarm her if she went on attack mode again, but I can't disagree that she wasn't being led by emotions, which is a bad quality of a moderator in a debate.

Then again, FoxNews.

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot

Shadow posted:

I don't know... did you see her ask him the questions last August? I think anyone claiming she didn't have it in for Trump and she wasn't motivated by anger is just being dishonest. Boycotting may have been dumb as he could have came and tried another approach to disarm her if she went on attack mode again, but I can't disagree that she wasn't being led by emotions, which is a bad quality of a moderator in a debate.

Then again, FoxNews.

I'm not saying she was the best most impartial person but bro if Trump can't handle that how in the poo poo is he supposed to be able to handle actual foreign policy and meeting with people like Erdogan or Putin?

He's such a bag of hot air it's ridiculous that people can't immediately tell. He is asked how he will force Mexico to pay for it and he just gives the equivalent of a macho bluster in response.

eric
Apr 27, 2004
Lipstick Apathy
Trump owns and I can't wait until he starts deporting millions of illegals.

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

BigBoss posted:

- champion of universal healthcare

- in favor of higher taxes on ultra-rich

- pro-choice

- doesn't give a gently caress if you smoke weed or whatever gay drugs you crunch up and put in your eyeballs

- is not able to be purchased by special interests because he's already rich so gently caress it

- bangs hot sluts and dgaf

- is in WWE Hall of Fame

- Isn't scared of Putin like a little bitch



Every single one of these statements is true about Donald Trump and watching progressives wring their hands about what amounts to their fantasy candidate because he was mean to a group of people who have for centuries based their entire dumb rear end moon god cultural identity on violence and tribalism is hilarious.

nah I think that a lot of progressives secretly go "gently caress yeah" when Republicans say poo poo like they are going to refuse Muslim immigrants. We don't want Cologne to happen here either, we just aren't allowed to openly express that.

People that actually hold progressive values and principles don't think that flooding our country with violent religious extremists straight from a civil war against a secular government is such a great idea either.

I wish Trump would lay off of the Mexicans though, they are cool af.

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot
refuse Muslim immigrants or refuse refugees from Syria?

Refusing Muslims is dumb as gently caress considering like what a third of the world's population is Muslim?

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot
for real how can you not tell he's just saying whatever the gently caress he thinks will be popular or controversial? he's just hillary but a different flavor.

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

FishionMailed posted:

refuse Muslim immigrants or refuse refugees from Syria?

Refusing Muslims is dumb as gently caress considering like what a third of the world's population is Muslim?

we have all of the friendly, culturally compatible low income workers that we could ever possibly need, south of us for thousands of miles.

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

FishionMailed posted:

I'm not saying she was the best most impartial person but bro if Trump can't handle that how in the poo poo is he supposed to be able to handle actual foreign policy and meeting with people like Erdogan or Putin?

He's such a bag of hot air it's ridiculous that people can't immediately tell. He is asked how he will force Mexico to pay for it and he just gives the equivalent of a macho bluster in response.

Look, let me preface this by saying that I do not support Trump. I'm not against everything he's been talking about with regards to how badly free trade agreements have hosed up our country (manufacturing used to be a huge sector for middle class jobs... offshore IT support/HR/finance... Made in USA) by hurting our working and middle class.

Now, that being said, he's also somewhat of a sociopath. He's not someone who's going to apologize for the country, which some see as a strength, and most rational people see as a horrible weakness. To say that any action your country does is the right action is an extreme form of nationalism that should be condemned, not honored.

Now, to get back on topic: you're not comparing apples to apples. Trump's issue with Megyn Kelly (from what I gather) is that she wasted his time. It wasn't that he couldn't handle her as much as he found her to be dishonest in her neutrality as a debate moderator and found that she was more interested in baiting the biggest ratings draw they had rather than host a debate.

Putin or others wouldn't be seen by him as wasting his time. But that whole "never apologizing" thing probably will end up fueling further resentment between other leaders and the US government, which is why I'm against him. I'm not against him because he refused to let Megyn Kelly and FoxNews use him for ratings as well as waste his time with what he found to be irrelevant questions by an angry woman (which is how I saw it when I saw the August debate and again recently when I rewatched the relevant piece)

Word.

I typed them.

Thanks for reading them.

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot
ya'll would have wanted to ban the Irish too because 'they're just drunk fucks we don't need any more of 'em anyway' hahahaha

The thing is this poo poo just isn't a solution to anything. spend years and hundreds of millions of dollars and cool we've barred Muslims from entering. Now watch as some white fool claiming to be Christian suicide bombs somewhere anyway because lmao how the gently caress are you supposed to enforce such a thing?

Cool and meanwhile our infrastructure still crumbles, our schools turn out gibbering retards, and our society is taken over by Schmorkies from within - all the while rich assholes keep being rich and dumping lead into our drinking water because gently caress you that's why.

Shadow posted:

Now, to get back on topic: you're not comparing apples to apples. Trump's issue with Megyn Kelly (from what I gather) is that she wasted his time. It wasn't that he couldn't handle her as much as he found her to be dishonest in her neutrality as a debate moderator and found that she was more interested in baiting the biggest ratings draw they had rather than host a debate.

Putin or others wouldn't be seen by him as wasting his time. But that whole "never apologizing" thing probably will end up fueling further resentment between other leaders and the US government, which is why I'm against him. I'm not against him because he refused to let Megyn Kelly and FoxNews use him for ratings as well as waste his time with what he found to be irrelevant questions by an angry woman (which is how I saw it when I saw the August debate and again recently when I rewatched the relevant piece)


I don't disagree that she did that poo poo and maybe you're right that he would treat Putin differently but I think his handling of it was basically the equivalent of taking his ball and going home and it doesn't inspire confidence in me with regards to how he will handle difficult foreign policy decisions. To me it just looks like 'Trump is challenged by someone who isn't buying his poo poo or who he can't just bully over, and as this is a somewhat uncommon occurrence he is frustrated and doesn't want to resolve anything he just wants to remove himself from the situation and throw a tantrum.'

He can dish it out but he can't take it, it seems like.

FishionMailed has issued a correction as of 18:29 on Feb 1, 2016

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

FishionMailed posted:

ya'll would have wanted to ban the Irish too because 'they're just drunk fucks we don't need any more of 'em anyway' hahahaha

The thing is this poo poo just isn't a solution to anything. spend years and hundreds of millions of dollars and cool we've barred Muslims from entering. Now watch as some white fool claiming to be Christian suicide bombs somewhere anyway because lmao how the gently caress are you supposed to enforce such a thing?

Cool and meanwhile our infrastructure still crumbles, our schools turn out gibbering retards, and our society is taken over by Schmorkies from within - all the while rich assholes keep being rich and dumping lead into our drinking water because gently caress you that's why.

yeah p much.

that's why I believe in accelerationism and originally was hoping for Trump to crash the car so we can work on fixing it (via a constitutional convention). however trump's methods may accelerate it too fast and won't just crash the car but set off a hydrogen bomb in its trunk. so im hoping for bernie. :(

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

FishionMailed posted:

for real how can you not tell he's just saying whatever the gently caress he thinks will be popular or controversial? he's just hillary but a different flavor.

He's saying whatever pops into his head, and the history of who he politically supports makes him probably the farthest left Republican candidate to get any traction in years. Trump doesn't have to maintain credibility with crazyass far-right thinktanks and PACs and poo poo like that. Obama gives more fucks about what Rush thinks than Trump does.

Meanwhile HRC is a loving machine, a T-1000 built by Wall Street. Everything she says and does is focus group tested and polled in advance. And once in office she will be ruthlessly efficient at protecting the 1% from all accountability and furthering the transfer of wealth to them.

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!
me2 op

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

FishionMailed posted:

I don't disagree that she did that poo poo and maybe you're right that he would treat Putin differently but I think his handling of it was basically the equivalent of taking his ball and going home and it doesn't inspire confidence in me with regards to how he will handle difficult foreign policy decisions. To me it just looks like 'Trump is challenged by someone who isn't buying his poo poo or who he can't just bully over, and as this is a somewhat uncommon occurrence he is frustrated and doesn't want to resolve anything he just wants to remove himself from the situation and throw a tantrum.'

He can dish it out but he can't take it, it seems like.

haha, yeah but one part was when she repeatedly said that he called women "fat pigs" and he clarified it saying "no that's only Rosie O'Donnell" which I think we all can agree IS a fat pig. :)

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

City of Tampa posted:

Meanwhile HRC is a loving machine, a T-1000 built by Wall Street. Everything she says and does is focus group tested and polled in advance. And once in office she will be ruthlessly efficient at protecting the 1% from all accountability and furthering the transfer of wealth to them.
seriously... I'd almost rather risk debilitating wars with a Trump presidency than I would letting the ruling class think that we're ok with business as usual politics. and you're right that not one thing she says hasn't gone through 10-15 years of focus group and poll testing. she's the john mccain of the democratic party, with the only difference being she may not choose as disastrous of a running mate.

Vote Hillary if you love our government and how the game of politics is played (obstructionism, gerrymandering, corporate approved, etc.)

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot
I just feel like Trump is that dog chasing a car but if he ever actually catches it he doesn't know what the gently caress he is going to do with it.

This is like what, the fourth time he's run for president for publicity? This time the country just happens to be so broken that he's actually doing well and he is probably just as surprised as the rest of us.

BigBoss
Jan 26, 2012

by Lowtax
How hosed up is your ideology if you're siding with Megyn Kelly over Donald Trump? At that point you might as well just stick your face in a blender because you're sick of your nose.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005

BigBoss posted:

How hosed up is your ideology if you're siding with Megyn Kelly over Donald Trump?
how do you think hes siding with her over donald trump instead of siding with neither of them? theyre 2 people that obviously dont get along with others who dont already agree with them or are paid to pretend to agree with them

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

BigBoss posted:

How hosed up is your ideology if you're siding with Megyn Kelly over Donald Trump? At that point you might as well just stick your face in a blender because you're sick of your nose.

This. People seem to use the story as a jab against Trump rather than seeing what a joke Megyn Kelly is and how she was actually behaving during the August debate.

RealTalk: Entertainment channels shouldn't be hosting debates however. These debates should be on PBS or CSPAN.

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

gary oldmans diary posted:

how do you think hes siding with her over donald trump instead of siding with neither of them? theyre 2 people that obviously dont get along with others who dont already get along with them or are paid to pretend to get along with them

it's a debate, and as much of a joke as that is in our current political climate, a debate needs to be moderated by someone who can at least swallow their contempt and biases against particular candidates. she's not only incapable of that during the debate, every interview on the topic has her badmouthing Trump left and right.

Journalists should not be editorializing.
Editorializers should not be moderating debates

and so on

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005

Shadow posted:

it's a debate
heh good one

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

Shadow posted:

seriously... I'd almost rather risk debilitating wars with a Trump presidency than I would letting the ruling class think that we're ok with business as usual politics. and you're right that not one thing she says hasn't gone through 10-15 years of focus group and poll testing. she's the john mccain of the democratic party, with the only difference being she may not choose as disastrous of a running mate.

Vote Hillary if you love our government and how the game of politics is played (obstructionism, gerrymandering, corporate approved, etc.)

I think a lot of people feel the same way, and if it comes down to HRC vs. Trump a whole lot of the "gently caress this poo poo" vote is going to Trump just to watch all of the Very Serious People get the vapors if for no other reason

Prorat
Aug 3, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

FishionMailed posted:

I'm not saying she was the best most impartial person but bro if Trump can't handle that how in the poo poo is he supposed to be able to handle actual foreign policy and meeting with people like Erdogan or Putin?

He's such a bag of hot air it's ridiculous that people can't immediately tell. He is asked how he will force Mexico to pay for it and he just gives the equivalent of a macho bluster in response.

Avoiding the debate has won him nomination, do some research dumbass

Tony Homo
Oct 30, 2014

by zen death robot
What does your dad think of them dirty Mexicans taking away American jobs like picking strawberries or selling oranges on the corners?

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Tony Homo posted:

What does your dad think of them dirty Mexicans taking away American jobs like picking strawberries or selling oranges on the corners?

If you think illegals are only just taking these jobs you are woefully uninformed. Also many of the illegals are not even mexican.

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Berious posted:

it's thinking like this that got you the chimperor instead of al loving gore. punch your father

Barrack "The Real Deal" Obama ended up being a company man just like all the rest of them, and you think Al "Skim Milk" Gore would have been any different. THIS is what is wrong with America... no long term memory.

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

:staredog::meowth::pipe:
what's a jib

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
Al Gore conned Al Jazeera into buying his worthless TV station which wound up being the end of them.

He stuck it to the company who's main division operates in an actual slave state. He did more to combat radical islamists by doing this than Obama did in his entire 8 year term.

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

City of Tampa posted:

I think a lot of people feel the same way, and if it comes down to HRC vs. Trump a whole lot of the "gently caress this poo poo" vote is going to Trump just to watch all of the Very Serious People get the vapors if for no other reason

It's true. The government as it is has been molded into a rigged game. The only way the people who rigged it stop benefiting is if we stop electing people they approve of. They don't like Trump and they hate Bernie.

Hillary on the other hand:

they seem to like her


lol compare to Bernie:


and trump:

Shadow has issued a correction as of 18:59 on Feb 1, 2016

CatfishClyde
Jul 22, 2001
Orange Rhyming Dictionary
op's dad is a good man, the type of dad you'd like to have a beer with

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City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot
Al Jazeera would have done 1000% better if they had come up with a new name that didn't sound like an offshoot of the taliban

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